Good points all in the past couple posts. Just the facts maam. And I like the idea of OT only , good call.

As far as a 60+ year old Lithuaniun (sp?) I would laugh my ass off, and love every minute of it. Thinking it was the most hilarious thing I had ever seen. I plan to do those very things if I make it to that age. This is the color of life as I see it.

Erik

QUOTE (914-8 @ Feb 15 2006, 08:15 PM)

Seriously, one really easy way to significantly cut down on the problem and make a site a lot better is to strictly enforce an "Off Topic" rule. There should be a forum that is for technical stuff ONLY (is that what the Garage is supposed to be?). The OT stuff should be strictly segregated in its own cesspool for those that enjoy that sort of stuff! It works a lot better that way.

and takes away *ALL* the fun ...

just look at the pelican forums ...

we do *NOT* want to become a "technical" forum ...

we got the sandbox for the OT stuff and even that was a bad idea, IMHO.
the more you split into seperate forums, the more you divert attention, the more you lose participation.

it might "work" but it would be awfully boring!
Andy

PS: this place thrives on the different personalities and without the occassional OT stuff, all that would be lost.

PPS: all i'm asking is for a certain few to show some respect for the rest.

Next time this censorship & separate OT forum stuff comes up again I'm going to search the archive and bump the 50 threads that have already killed these subjects.

We have so many new members, that I can't really blame them for thinking it's a new idea. But still...

Maybe we need to put threads like this in the FAQ.

QUOTE (Thorshammer @ Feb 15 2006, 11:23 PM)

People would much rather watch the perfect form of a naked breast or penis

M

Im tired of these pissing contests. It really takes the fun out of coming here. If somebody doesn't play by the rules, toss 'em. You shouldn't have to ask a grown man more than once to show respect in a situation like this.

QUOTE (ChrisReale @ Feb 16 2006, 01:37 AM)

Im tired of these pissing contests. It really takes the fun out of coming here. If somebody doesn't play by the rules, toss 'em. You shouldn't have to ask a grown man more than once to show respect in a situation like this.

well said, chris.

I have refrained from jumping in on this tired old subject but the post from "*" made me feel that I had to respond.

I feel bad for "*" that he feels he has to leave...again we have been here before. I like Z, he's a true character... rare in this world. That said though, it was made pretty clear last time... ya wanna play take it to the box. We have some fun times in there. I for one will miss "*" but it is HIS FAULT for not playing by the rules (I know, I know what is PG-13 blah blah blah).

I'll miss ya "*". Ya know I have always supported Z'ster in the past but I gotta go the other way this time.

Here what I wrote in my Blog on several of these issues. I put in my blog and copied here so when I get mis-quoted in the future I can easily find it.

"This is my blog and this is what I think about that....

Mike Z: Why in the hell can't he follow the rules? Those that say that if you don't like his avatars or signature you can turn them off. Well I don't think I should be forced to change my settings for all the other members because one member can't seem to do what is right. Rule #3 says "...Have some respect for your fellow club members." Part of respect is being able understand that not all members what to see tits and ass. Respect the fact that I have an family and I don't want your disrespect for women brought into my house or office. I also can't beleive that Mike has a wife and three young daughters and continues to post this kind of crap. I could see it being done by a 16 year old kid, but not an adult. Mike response his "no one gets my humor". You're right, I don't get that kind of humor. If it wasn't for Mike and his humor the Admin team wouldn't have much to do. Everyone here does an pretty good job of self-policeing lately. This is not a free speak issue. This board is privately owned and run and we are all guests here. Play by the rules or go start your own board.

OT Threads: Just what is considered OT? Being that this is a car board I would think just about anything not related to cars is OT. I use the Sandbox for all very OT topics. When it is car related I post in the Garage. When I post in the Garage and it is not 914 related or car related I lable it OT. If I find a site or post a picture of a car or tools or something I still post in the Garage. Because the Garage is about cars, tools, P-cars, etc. But if I need help with my computer or taxes or my want to list my favorte dance song I do it in the SandBox. Nothing in the Sandbox should be labled OT. If I find a joke that may offend someone I post it in the Sandbox in the "Do Not Look " thread.

BTW: I have no problem looking or seeing naked women. But I think I should be the one that decides when I should view them.

Thread Labling: Several months ago I started a thread and complained that people need to better explain the subject or topic of thier thread. Naming a thread "Look what I did" and than it being about how they built a rock garden is not right.

More to follow..."

Your blog is a good tool, more people should use them.

Paul

Hey Zster,

Don't go away! We like your twisted and sometimes foul sense of humor!

-Dennis Leary & Sam Kinison (I know I'm dead...but I watch the 914world.com in hell)

I'm the anonymous admin!!!

...and so is my wife!

andy, you don't have to expain, but thank you for it.

QUOTE ("*" @ Feb 15 2006, 07:01 PM)

My last post. I never got a PM. I never got a complaint. A poster called me and told me that there was a thread about me. I came home on Valentine's Day and found a thread with my name IN CAPS in the subject line. I PM'd Bad Ass, did not get a response. I posted a thread about Bad Ass, it was deleted. Whoever Bad Ass is, they had better stay anonymous, as I will have an up close and personal discussion with that person some day. This was handled badly. I have not been banned, I have chosen to leave. I am not taking my ball and running away. There is notheing left here that interests me. Have Fun.

I'm not a very vocal member, but (Long winded response deleted) All I can say is "*" this isn't the first time your avatar's have been a topic of discussion (sometimes heated) here. Grow up, I'm all for pictures nude pictures, but not on a car club website.

You are right, if you don't like it then leave. As my father would say, don't let the door hit ya in the ........

Andy, Well said. THANK YOU!

Andy, well said!

Dan

Oh hell, I may as well speek my mind. It's not the first time, but I've tried to have some restraint.

I've been labeled "Bible Thumper" since my first rants some time ago. The exile thread on PP refers to the name several times. I've actually grown to like the name when used in fun and by friends. While I don't always agree on many of the avatars and messages, most can be avoided or over looked. I LIKE to the see pics and avatars. I will not explain to my 4 and 8 year old boys why a crotch shot of a woman with a mans hand is feeling her is on my computer or what a woman with large boobs is bouncing on the screen. Avatars like the one now shown by our favorite Tattoo Freek is fine. I can over look it and it doesn't attract attention from those around me. As a wanna-be-Artist, I can respect the idea of the human form being art and used in art. A crotch shot or other singled out body part IS NOT ART. Mike Zois and others can call me all the names they like. While I don't care for it, I'll accept the responsibility for how I react to it. I once thought the self imposed "exile"d people added color, but they only add immaturity. I like the people who own these silly little cars. I like the color of different personalities. People make mistakes and should be forgiven. When it's not a mistake and just defience then that's another story.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'll be off to my Bible Thumper forum. As I prefer to follow the rules.

QUOTE (McMark @ Feb 15 2006, 11:30 PM)

Next time this censorship & separate OT forum stuff comes up again I'm going to search the archive and bump the 50 threads that have already killed these subjects. We have so many new members, that I can't really blame them for thinking it's a new idea.  But still...  :rolleyes: Maybe we need to put threads like this in the FAQ.  :idea:

Easily the best idea yet.

I swear
Here's the routine: 1)someone squawks because we need more restrictions OR we have too much censorship; 2) big pissin' match number 423 starts up, with all the usual "I'm right you're wrong" posts; 3)I get turned off & stay away for a while, 4)I ease back in, things settle; 5)like clock work, about four weeks later, some knucklehead who's sure he knows the answer starts us back at step 1.

Some interesting people I know are inmature 40 year olds. And the most interesting person I know is a very inmature 60 + year old. Character pure and simple. We should celebrate character. It funny, many are ready to accept alternative life styles, but not original lifestyles that have incredible character.

You are right a crotch shot is not art, unless Someone says it is, and who are they. I was born without clothes, weren't you?


However, I understand the lack of morale upbringing of todays youth. I hope those who are concerned with what their kids see on this site are as involved in their childrens school and teachers. Involvement in education is a far bigger problem.


Erik

QUOTE (Thorshammer @ Feb 16 2006, 04:10 PM)

I was born without clothes, weren't you?

of course i was. but does that mean i have to look at *you* naked?

what's your point? because zois was born naked and grew a lot of hair on his private parts, we all have to look at his crotch?
Andy

Damnit Andy, you're European and are supposed to be laughing at "us". Don't be gettin' all mature on us......you'll show lack of "character" and ruin our "morale"

QUOTE (Thorshammer @ Feb 16 2006, 07:10 PM)

Some interesting people I know are inmature 40 year olds. And the most interesting person I know is a very inmature 60 + year old. Character pure and simple. We should celebrate character. It funny, many are ready to accept alternative life styles, but not original lifestyles that have incredible character. You are right a crotch shot is not art, unless Someone says it is, and who are they. I was born without clothes, weren't you? However, I understand the lack of morale upbringing of todays youth. I hope those who are concerned with what their kids see on this site are as involved in their childrens school and teachers. Involvement in education is a far bigger problem. Erik

Yup, born without cloths, but I wouldn't want to show off for the world.

Just because someone says "it's art" doesn't make it art. There is too much garbage being descrided as art that isn't.

You are right about kids too. I for one consider school as only a small part of my childrens education. And you had better believe I'll be in the face of anyone in town if I hear things being taught in school that shouldn't be. I also consider any after school programs.

Fine art paintings from the various eras is far different than the crap pictures in question on this site though. Shoot, I was even watching a program the othet night on Frank Frazetta. He has many nudes in his works but none are seductive or focus just parts, but the body as a whole. Smut is not art and should not be viewed buy kids (or adults IMO).

The rest of the threads about this subject have been locked and went away.....isn't it time to do the same to this one?

QUOTE (SLITS @ Feb 17 2006, 01:33 AM)

The rest of the threads about this subject have been locked and went away.....isn't it time to do the same to this one?

you're absolutely right!

lets please move on...