Last weekend I broke my year old throttle cable I decided to order a Terry Cable (best out there?) from PParts.

The cable came in on Thursday (very good shipping time from CA to VA). I installed the cable today..too longer then I thought it would. It was a pain to remove the A/C console, pedal board, and snake the cable in while the car wa on all 4's.

After adusting the cable so I had full open and the pedal stop so I would stretch the cable. I figured I was done. As I was depressing the pedal by hand SNAP

WTF

After getting back in there I discovered the cable pulled out of the threaded piece that connects to the pedal linkage. WTF

So I have contacted PParts to see what they will do??

I thought the $40 cable would hold up better then this..

That sucks.

I'm sure that after a phone call you'll have a new one on the way. I used a Terry cable on my IV and it was fine. I was told that Gemo makes decent cables as well.

The Terry cable was thicker then the original one. Not by much.... but stll thicker.

I wonder if my pedal movment is not correct and causing this? The last 25% is tough but doesn't seem too bad.

The way I installed it was to open the carbs 100% and set the pedal to = this when fully depressed. I used the pedal board stop to keep from depressing too far.

I remember a tread that the OEM cable was stronger than the terry, and that the terry was stronger than the OEM replacements..

something to that effect...

I've had mine in my v8.. (clutch is 3 times stiffer than a stock 914, throttle cable is taking 2 90 deg creases) for almost 2 years.

that said, I have replacements in the car...

I am rethinking my bellcrank linkage. Not sure if it is adding to the stress/tension required to go to 100% open.

I think "z" / "*" made a -4 style linkage piece on his six???

I might do some mods to the one I have?? It does make a hard bend around the CV.. Wonder if it could be pulled from below the CV and not above it.

If it got twisted around the clutch cable that could add to the problems.

Wasn't there a thread with someone cutting the center tunnel open?

I just feed the cable in and over the clutch cable connection to the pedal

I just went through this on our 1974 and had several OEM cables come apart at the swaged ends, two even before we got them fully installed. We finally used the Weltmeister (sp?) one and had no further trouble. The resistance should be the same through out the full motion of the pedal and if not something is wrong. I'd say check the carb linkage w/o a cable, the pedal feel w/o the cable and finally the cable itsself befor eit is hooked up (this takes two people to pull it back and forth).

John, where did you get the cable from?

Well the new cable is on the way. I talked to PParts and they are sending the new cable out. The crappy thing is I had to pay for another cable before they would send the new one out.

The only way they would send the new cable, without charging me is to have me return the defective cable first.

I am a little pissed that they enforce this policy across the board.

Seems like they should look at my history with them, ship the cable out (2-3 days), and send a return shipping label (if they want the broken cable back).

Now I am out another $40 and will need to pay to have the old cable shipped back to them I am sure once I bitch two or three times to them, they will refund me the $$$..


I guess I expected more from PPARTS then a guy reading from a policy handbook word for word.

Lets hope this cable is made better then the last.

I would have called Terrycable direct. They have made custom cables for my shiftercart's race team and with the exception of one cable, they have been flawless. The one cable that was deficient was replaced no questions asked and they let me keep the old cable. They will build you a cable specifically for your needs.

QUOTE (McMark @ Feb 25 2006, 04:33 PM)

If it got twisted around the clutch cable that could add to the problems.

Happened to me...sneaky lil bastard tunnel

Opps..

Here is why the original one broke

Not sure why this happened? I thought I routed things like the factory..

New Terry cable on the right (Broken to)

I have had no problems with all of the terry cables that I have used, tough break

Don't ya hate waiting.

The one that lasted about a year (on the left) was a OEM or GEMO? type cable. I guess I routed the cable wrong under the engine. It broke at this bend

The one on the right is a Terry Cable and broke in 3 hrs.. Still trying to get my money back.. Working on my second week with PParts on this.

I broke my First Terry fairly soon after my SIX conversion in the same place.

The tube that comes out of the firewall for the throttle cable is aimed so the stock FOUR cable can go up and into the engine bay.
I bent the tube so it is aimed back toward the trans and bell crank. This stops the cable from sawwing through the sheathing and fraying 'til snapping.


KT

Thanks Trekkor,

I will mod the exit tube before I put on my new cable. Should have it Today or tomorrow.


The Terry Cable broke at the Pedal and not at the bend shown above. The Terry cable pulled out of the threaded end piece ..

Note:

Weltmeister = Terrycable

Ken

QUOTE (KenH @ Mar 6 2006, 11:30 AM)

Note: Weltmeister = Terrycable Ken

welt is just a rebadged terry?

Yes to the above.

Unless PP is feeling *generous*.. you wont get your money back.

I personally wouldnt give you your money back either (I can be a dick sometimes)

The Terry didnt break from being defective... it broke because you have multiple issues with the tube that it slides into and linkage issues. I have pulled out gobs of rust in the past causing premature cable failures. You have told us several things: funky BS linkage/bellcrank/other failures...

I have been using Terry's for over 14years now (clutch and throttle) I have never had one break that wasnt caused by something else going on in the chassis.

Work out your linkage issues before you bust the vendors ass. Right now it sounds like you have a cluster f_ck for linkage.


B

QUOTE (Brad Roberts @ Mar 6 2006, 02:54 PM)

I personally wouldnt give you your money back either (I can be a dick sometimes)

YEP


The cable pulled clean out of the end from me pressing on the pedal by my hand, maybe 6 times as I was testing the weber action... DEFECTIVE.

It happens all the time. Some parts just slip through the quality process. Not saying Terry Cable is junk just that I got a DEFECTIVE cable. If I worded things as if I was...sorry, Terry cables are not junk to all that care.

Sounds like if the cable pulled clean out of the end, it might have just been a bad cable. Especially if your last one lasted almost a year. Either way, I think Kerry has some good advise on how to remedy any further potentail problems.

I do agree with Brad on checking the tube. I have cleaned out my fair share of crud from cable tubes over the years. It's worth looking into.

Use a mirror to verify that the throttle cable and clutch cable are not interwined near the pedal. They wrap around each other very easily and unless you can see them in the tunnel with a small mirror and correct it, its very likely they are intertwined.

well.... the same thing just happened to me today cabel pulled out of the end i just got the car running again today too.... the cable hasn't even been used since the new engine was put in... it really pisses me off.... and after seeing this, i dont want another one...

WOW

Was it a terry cable?

and I thought is was just my cobbled together POS



Call terry cable. I have called them and have yet to hear back.

Best of luck

PParts is sending me the return shipping label (in the mail today). Give them a call if you got it from them..There must have been a issue during production of the cables.

Cheers

Yes - ask Performance Prod they run(own??) Weltmeister.


Weltmeister = Terrycable

Ken

I just got my new Weltmeister cable. I can say it is 100% NOT the same as the Terry Cable.

The cables may have been made years apart so the materials/methods may have changed???

But the two cables I have are not the same

I got mine a couple of months ago and it was a "Terrycable package" inside a Weltmeister labled package. When I called and asked about it, the salesman said they were the same.

Ken

That does sould like the same

I guess mine were just made at different times.

Thanks for the update

I broke another Terry last Friday.

Right in the middle, where it goes into the firewall.

I getting sick of this


KT

That sucks

How does the real SIX's connect to the fire wall? Is there a bent piece to connect to?

I am sending my cable BACK to Terry Cable and they will look at it and replace it with a new one. I wonder if they can make it with a few more strands??? Group buy anyone

My 1st cable broke AT the firewall exit point As you can see from the above photo, it was due to the routing. I have my new cable installed with a large arc in the routing to reduce the kink. Not sure how I will secure it yet.

I don't see how the OEM or RJ bellcrank can help with the break at the firewall?

Anyone have a photo of a real SIX firewall (down low)?