oh come on that was funny!

i am guessing thursday afternoon?

smart ass...

How does this plan sound?

Step 1 - So Cal guys and gals meet up early Thursday morning and drive to Vegas. You peeps have to pick your own meeting time / place. Who all is in your group? Joe, Linda, Thomas, Toast, Slits, Howard, Aaron, Brando, who else?

Step 2 - So Cal caravan arrives in Vegas (3 hours after departure). There will be a large force of Vegas teeners waiting to join you. How soon can you get here? 9:14 AM? 10? Let's meet at the Ramada Inn Speedway Casino for brunch. It is on I-15 at the Cheyenne exit. About 3 miles past the downtown interchange and 5 miles before the race track.
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Step 3 - We roll in force for our Utah invasion. I-15 north is the only way out of town. Just past St. George we turn East on Hwy 9 to Zion. We then take scenic Hwy 89 North. We could take 89 all the way North until we hit I-70 and then go East to Moab. (boring) I would much rather cut over on Hwy 12. This stretch of road through the Dixie National Forest was my favorite part of my extended tour on the way home from last years RRC. I would love to do it again in the opposite direction. (great road, fantastic scenery, no traffic, no cops) If we go this way we also get to visit Bryce Canyon and Capitol Reef National Parks. At Torrey we could either take Hwy 24 West to Hwy 72 North and then I-70 East to Moab - OR - stay on the back roads with Hwy 24 East and then North before we pick up I-70 a little further down stream. Either option is fine by me.

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How does that sound?

I dont have a hotel reservation for Thursday night, so I would want to leave out before the roosters get up on Friday. Team NARP was talking about this this weekend. We thought about leaving out on Thursday night and invaiding VegasRacers place. (nice of us to ask you ahead of time isn't it? ) I do NOT want to travel through Utah durring the night because the whole state closes after sunset, INCLUDING THE GAS STATIONS!! Don't think many of us could make it all the way to Moab from Vegas without at least one stop for gas.

I will not be doing the scenic route. I would rather stay on the interstates so that there is more access to civilization (gas and repair stations).

Reason: I want to party on Friday night! So I would like to get there early so that I can get unpacked, shower and nap before the festivities.

i have my first day of class on that thursday..... if i miss it, i get dropped....

so, i would have to leave friday morning also.....

BTW - google says 11 hours to moab from here...

thurs night or friday morning works fine wif me....

fun convoy!
Aaron, Brando, Toast, Joe Sharp, Linda, Slits, Howard, Thomas....

Nice size caravan!!!! First beer is on me!! This ok?

and then team up with John, Steve, Plymoth and WRX..., and anybody else in Vegas!

I thought the RRC started before noon on Friday in Moab?

john,
technically, the party starts when the first person shows up with a beer in their hand, but last year's first drive was around 1 or 2.

Whatever you all decide, I'm in...

This is gunna be crazy!

OH BOY-OH BOY! are WE going to have fun I just hope that everything will run smooooooothly

If we haul we can make it from Vegas to Moab in 6+ hrs.



When can you get to Vegas?
I would like to roll ASAP.

leaving ass early on friday sounds great to me. sounds like that works for Aaron and a couple other people, what do you guys think?

John,
How does 4:20 a.m. sound?

yea, smoooooooothly without stoping every 10 miles.

Sound great, but we should leave from my house at bong-thirty!

Official Theme Song of the RCC:

How much tequila did i drink last night?
It's really anybody's guess.
I poured them so fast,
I couldn't keep them in the glass,
But this morning i sure am a mess.
My head is four or five times its normal size
And i got this big old cactus stuck between my eyes.
I can't recall a single thing i did or said
Or the names of all these people sleeping in this bed.

Tell me how, tell me how, tell me how, tell me how,
Tell me how much tequila did i drink last night?

How did i get these cuts and bruises all over my body?
I must have fallen down somehow.
I believe it had something to do with karate
-- it's all coming back to me now.
I was standing in a bar with king kong's cousin,
He must have been seven foot three.
His elbow gave me a bump, and so i said "hey, chump,
Would you like to step outside with me?"

Tell me how, tell me how, tell me how, tell me how,
Tell me how much tequila did i drink last night?

My mouth is filled with cotton and my brain is sore.
I left last night's dinner on this morning's floor.
My stomach is swollen and my eyeballs shrunk.
I drank so much that my hair got drunk.
I see a big old worm about ten feet long
Hallucinating purple cows.
Somebody moved the furniture while i was gone.

Uh oh, this is not my house.
I could call us a taxi on the telephone
If i only knew where we are.
I guess i'm gonna have to drive myself back home
As soon as i can find the car.

Tell me how, tell me how, tell me how, tell me how,
Tell me how much tequila did i drink last night?

yeah, I could make it to Keiths house on friday at bong thirty. Should I bring my own bong or are they included in the RRC registration fee? (i just think this needs to be clarified)

Bongs waste to much...You haven't seen the official "RCC Driving Helmut with built-in Cannibus Burner"?

so the socal gruppe rolls out to vegas thursday night... rolls out ASS early to moab friday morning...

and then?

PARTY

I like the idea of leavin thursday before noon on thursday -- Aaron, what time does this first class of yours end?. I can imagine us getting lost on the interstates because we can't see the friggin signs at night. But I'm cool with a late-afternoon/evening departure.

Aaron, if I buy the rubber lines, can you help me move my oil cooler up front? It doesn't need to be perfect, it just has to work.

mmmm YES!!! This is your brain on Moab, any questions?

I'm tinking we need more discussion on what time to head out for/arrive in Moab.

I looked over the RRC itenrary, and noticed that there will be a drive, bbq and beer on Friday (I thought everything was Sat & Sun.).

So, lets say in order for us to arrive in time to unpack and still do the scenic drive, maybe we should plan on being in Moab between 1 & 3 p.m. Depends on what time the scenic drive starts. I would assume no later than 3 p.m. because it gets dark there earlier.

*If you are going on the Scenic Route with John (VegasRacer), skip to the next post. *

Between Mapquest and Streets & Trips, it appears that total drive time from Vegas to Moab will be from 6 and half to 7 and half hours. Make it 8 to include gas & food stops.

Now, Places we will need to stop for gas will be very limited! Plus depending on what time we leave Vegas, we will need to calculate gas availability because gas stations in Utah close at night.

The cities we could stop in after Vegas will be either St. George or Cedar City (53 miles apart). Vegas to either city is 1 hr. 45 min. to 2hr. 30 min. We should top off our tanks there because the next major city isn't until Richfield which is another 1 hr. 45 min. *There are a few trucker stops b/w Vegas and Utah and there is one b/w Cedar City and Richfield in case of emergency (like needing to pee ). * I personally would like to stop at the indian reservation gas stop just outside of Vegas (if I dont fly by it this time) on our way out and get a carton of smokes for damn cheep, fireworks.......uh....I mean beef jerky and snackycakes.
Last track of the route will be from Richfield to Moab, 2 hrs. 35 min. There is only one gas station or any other type of civilization on this stretch and this is not until Green River, which is 1 hr. 45 min. (seems like that is the typical distance b/w stations doesn't it?)

You would think I have done this route before.


*If we want to be in Moab between 1 p.m. and 3 p.m. , we should leave Vegas between 5:00 - 7:00 a.m.!


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We still have lots of time to decide, and several caravan participants that we have not heard from yet. I hope we can work it out so we can all run together as one big pack. With so many different schedules, I know some people can not leave as early as others. I really would like to get there in time for the RRC group drive on Friday. Noon would be good. Earlier would be better.

It is a good 7 - 8 hours if we go on the Interstates. I we can all leave Vegas at 4:20 AM on Friday, that would put us on target to get to Moab at noon. Right on time. Of course, that also means you guys would have to leave LA at midnight. That would be one heck of a long day.

That was one of the reasons I originally suggested going up on Thursday. We could enjoy a leisurly tour on scenic highways and get an extra night of P-A-R-T-Y, plus a good nights sleep to start the fun weekend.

Everybody involved - Please sound off.
Who can (or wants to) go up on Thurs AM?
Who can't make it to Vegas until Friday AM?

I hope we can find a plan that will work for everyone.

Here is my personal agenda.
*(Sometime you can't have everything you want)

I want us all to be able to caravan together.
(I understand this may not be possible)
I would rather take the scenic route.
(I don't enjoy driving Elvira on the Interstate for hour after hour)
I don't want to miss the Friday aternoon RRC activities.
I don't want this to be a bonsai run up and back.
(still, that is better than nothing)

So??? What do you want?

Is anybody from the CO or AZ or NM or UT caravans reading this thread?
When do you plan on getting into Moab?

Bottom Line - I still believe everyone meeting in Vegas at 4:20 AM on Friday is our best option.

we haven't discussed it yet, but i would guess that we would like to be in Moab by 12:30 or 1:00, at the latest.

We haqven't discussed it yet, but my suggestion will be to leave Flagstaff no later than 7am on Friday. It is about a 6 hour drive...give or take a few. Perhaps 4 hours since my car will be a little faster.

I've discussed this with the passenger... She and I are both opposed to the crack-o-dawn waking hours and would prefer to leave Thursday to get an extra day of partying in. I (like John) would not like to be dead-ass-tired from driving all night and all day, to leave SoCal at midnight (or earlier) then arrive in Vegas, then leave at ~4AM -- undoubtedly if we caravaned as such, we'd all have to sleep as soon as we got there, and would still probably miss the arrival festivities.

my proposal.

Leavethursday afternoon, night whatever. crash in vegas for a few hours, and then leave vegas early in the morning.

Long drive? sure... tired? sure...

but i cant leave till thursday afternoon/evening

what is friday's schedule of events once we get there?
not a meet and greet like WCC? just gettin right to the point? no roadtrip recovery time? LOL

It's going to be a long day/drive for the So. Cal. group no matter what time we leave.


The problem is I dont know how many people have rooms reserved for Thursday night. Ron and I do not. Can't get a good nights sleep if yaz sleepin on the asphalt. (some may end up doing that anyway. :casadorez: )


I have Thursday off, so I can leave on Thursday. I think Aaron has school on Thursday until..?? We could leave after that. But I think Joe Sharp and Linda work on that day. They have a little farther to drive, so probably won't be to the I15 until about 7:00p.m. Thomas? TrojanDad?






with that too. That type of drive I know for a fact would put me out for hours after getting there, so I would miss the activities anyway. Sometimes ya gotta do what ya don't like. Beside, you were actually planning on getting sleep this weekend?

and i am flat towing... so that limits me to what... 70mph max?

have rockstar drinks. will drive endlessly LOL

I ment to post about you flat towing...sorry.

That really makes it near impossible for you to do the scenic route. Iffen everyone else decides to go see the sights, i'll take the fwy with ya.
You are going to be on a grade 90% of the way there. Hope your vehicle (and your pocketbook) is powerful enough to tow the grades at 70 mph.

truck and tow rig will make it fine....

worried about keepin up with you guys without getting a ticket....

SLITS is our Tickemaster.

Your only real worries lie in Califorina. Once you hit the Nevada border, trucks and trailers have the same speedlimit as passenger cars.

Toast... you forgot the necessary stop in Beaver

Beaver, Utah!!!

gas stops are available in Beaver, you just got to watch the fumes!

so there isnt a different speed limit in nevada/utah for trucks w/ trailers?

right on....

Beaver Fumes...

We (wife and I) Dana and his wife and friends can not leave until Friday. Need to work on Thursday...

i am not part of your caravan, but i am an experienced road tripper (especially from denver to LA).
did someone say they needed .02 ?

the so cal group should set their sites on making it to mesquite thursday night. it's just a little bit further than vegas, the rooms are quite a bit cheaper, and it puts you closer to moab the next morning.

now back to your reguarly scheduled program

Man, that place is filthy. Filthy Beaver.

Aaron, there is not a seperate speed limit for trucks or trailers in Ut, Nv, Az. 75 mph, or posted speed limit!

Nope, and once you are north of Vegas, the speedlimit goes to 75 all the way to the Moab exit. (with a few exceptions, watch your speed when we go through the corner of Arizona and on the down hill section going into St. George Utah)

I used to drive this stretch every weekend when I was moving from Denver to Vegas. As Toast said, there is a stretch between Salinas? and Green River that is about 110 miles with no services. Other than that, there is not any problems with finding gas stations...

Forgot to add: I'll pass on the scenic route. Besides, I've seen dirt before -- it's just so ... dirty. Maybe we 4 (Slits, Toast, AA, Me) should blitz out thursday afternoon, stop in mesquite, head out early AM to make it there roughly at 1? Or we can stay in Vegas, wait for Joe Sharp and Linda, then head out. I wonder how zombified they will be after a full night's driving though.

i register for classes on the aug 7th, so then i will know what class times dictate how early i can leave on that thursday....

sounds like we gotta find a place to crash on thursday night in vegas/mesquite

Good idea, but Mesquite is only about a hour and fifteen min away from Vegas...

If you decide to go the Mesquite, look up the Oasis casino. Right off I15 on the Border. Thursday rates I believe are only $29.00 If anyone needs to crash in Vegas, let me know. I have a house that is unoccupied with two airmatresses and lots of rooms. Plenty of parking available behind the gate so your cars would be safe. Let me know...

we need Joe/Linda/Thomas to chime in.

Joe is driving or towing?
Howard - what works for you? *Nevermind - you are retired. you have nothing going on LOL*

Actually Brandon, you will be very suprized how wired you will be after that long of a drive! Just try to get a normal's night sleep the night before. It geatly helps!

But it's also another hour and fifteen closer to UT.

Have we been calculating these drive times based on 65mph or the more realisitic 80-85mph we'll be doing?


!!!

brandon, with your tires, that is like 4000 rpm..consistent. factor in some cooling down breaks then for your oil temp....

Right on WRX!!!!
The next stop past Misquite is St. George I believe. But the Virgin River is scary to drive through at night if you have never done it before! Besides, for the virgin drivers going through that area, it sure would be a site for them to see in the daytime!

In my expierance, it takes 6 hours to get from Vegas to Grand Junction, Colorado. I would guess that you are looking at 6-7 hours given an average speed of 80mph.

just a guess...

which should allow the cali group a little more rest before the vegas group meets up with them, or, an earlier departure to and arrival in moab. I just know that i like to get as far as i can on an outbound trip as possible so the next day is easier. plus, this allows the cali group to spend more time driving at nght, and more time driving in the morning (think cooler)

maybe i should start a new thread and have it nailed?