VegasRacer
Jul 22 2006, 04:10 PM
Price will be $15 per shirt. (plus shipping if not at the RRC)
Deadline to order is Noon on Labor Day, Monday Sept. 4th.
Two color printing on back.
One color printing on front.
(possible 2 color on front if more than 50 shirts are ordered)
Shirt Options:Ring T - heavy 100% cotton. also available as 50/50 medium weight.
Click to view attachmentClick to view attachmentOrganic T - lighter cotton. recommended by vendor as very comfortable.
Click to view attachmentClick to view attachmentPolo - think of it more as a t-shirt with a collar.
Click to view attachmentClick to view attachmentNotice there are 3 different designs on the front.
Please state your preference along with your choice of shirts.
TINCAN914
Jul 22 2006, 05:39 PM
I like the second one best, but the first one is nice, except my fear of the collar fade... The 914world.com logo would be cool on the breast... Thanks John..
brant
Jul 22 2006, 09:13 PM
since you asked....
I really like #2
plain collar. more sedate. even like the tan (grey is my second choice of color, but still in style 2)
brant
Jeroen
Jul 23 2006, 10:42 AM
I like the polo
A full white T is a little plain maybe
Is "cloudy" light gray T an option?
Either way, John, let me know when/what you need for the printer and I'll send it your way
VegasRacer
Jul 24 2006, 05:48 AM
Jeroen
Jul 24 2006, 05:53 AM
we can also do the new badge design on the front
single color (like my avatar)
and replace "kurvenmeister" with "RedRockClassic" (if it fits the space - not sure, I'll have to try) or RRC 2006
seanery
Jul 24 2006, 08:36 AM
I like the dancer guy with the steering wheel or the new badge for the front.
TROJANMAN
Jul 24 2006, 09:41 AM
i vote badge
seanery
Jul 24 2006, 11:57 AM
Have you guys considered doing the full art on the front with the back dedicated to sponsors & vendors who have pitched in?
...just wonderin', that's how we've been doing the Fall Foliage Classic and the vendors like it, plus they get a free T shirt out of it.
brant
Jul 24 2006, 12:49 PM
I like that Idea Sean..
John is something like that possible?
brant
VegasRacer
Jul 24 2006, 02:39 PM
Sure it is possible, but I'm not alone in this. We would be stuck with crappy results without Jeoren's graphic skills. If he is willing / able to do the art, I can get it printed. Eihter way, we should decide soon. It would be best to have the shirt options ready when we go public with the registration details.
Do we have an accurate and complete list of the vendors who will be donating prizes?
We certainly wouldn't want to leave anybody out.
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. . . . the vendors like it, plus they get a free T shirt out of it.
I don't understand how the vendors end up with a 'free' shirt. Somebody has to pay for it one way or the other. Would the money come from the registration fees?
I like the idea of the new badge for the front.
seanery
Jul 24 2006, 02:42 PM
They get a free shirt for their contributions...yes, someone has to pay for it, but it's a Thank You we do for our sponsors. At $15 per shirt (for those who order) there is a bit of profit to pay for sponsors schtuff.
TROJANMAN
Jul 24 2006, 02:50 PM
Sean,
There is ZERO profit margin in our registration, (Can't speak for the shirts) and with 8-10 sponsors at $15 a pop, we can't afford it.
IMO, the sponsors donate not only to help us out (which we truly appreciate) but also to bring some recognition to themselves. So while it helps us, it helps them too.
I'd love to give a shirt to each sponsor, but we are scraping by on our current registration fee. This is a not-for-profit effort on the organizers. We would have to raise the current registration to cover the cost of the sponsors shirts.
But if we do include sponsor names on the shirts, the advertising, should be thank you enough IMO
Jeroen
Jul 24 2006, 05:14 PM
artwork for the sponsors is not a problem...
since you're low on cash, you don't need to send your sponsors a free shirt
they get a "bonus" for being on the shirt already!
TINCAN914
Jul 24 2006, 05:50 PM
QUOTE(TROJANMAN @ Jul 24 2006, 03:30 PM)
brian,
what's the word on the 9 magazine "sponsorship" ?
I will try him again.
TROJANMAN
Jul 24 2006, 06:13 PM
we have one more sponsor to add as well
Turtle Mtn
VegasRacer
Jul 25 2006, 05:18 AM
If Jeroen is willing to do the art - I say:
"full speed ahead". I think it looks 'cooler' with sponsor logo's added, plus it is a nice 'thank you' to give the sponsors 50 walking advertisements.
You get the idea . . .
Click to view attachmentDefinitely the new badge for the front.
I don't know how the FFC does it, but in this case the shirts are a private service.
Not likely, but if only 30 shirts are sold - I am screwed.
50 will give me a free one, plus I have always sent one to Jeroen. The 'flat fee' postage rates I charge also need to be supplemented. Only once have I ended up in the hole after the final accounting. In the past I have given a few 'free' shirts to other 'Club' members, when there were extras. I would love to be able to promise some as gifts to the sponsors, but I am not is a position to do so. If enough shirts are sold, that may be possible.
I do expect a lot of people to order shirts.
I had planned for any excess revenue will be added to the charity donation.
VegasRacer
Jul 25 2006, 05:23 AM
Two more things
Are any of the sponsors donating cash?
Which style of shirt does everybody like best?
VOTE !!!
TINCAN914
Jul 25 2006, 07:17 AM
John,
I have not received notification from any of the sponsors that they would be sending cash.
Great idea on the shirts, the sponsor logos on the back are great. I still like the all white t-shirt, but dig the sponsors on the back, better then crowding the front and back.
TROJANMAN
Jul 25 2006, 09:24 AM
turtle mtn emailed me a logo. who should i forward it too?
Jeroen
Jul 25 2006, 10:15 AM
send it to:
jeroen@berloth.nl
thanks!
who else is sponsoring the RRC?
BMartin914
Jul 25 2006, 12:17 PM
A big thank you to Ya-roon for helping with the design!
I like the second shirt best. As Brant has said, tan or light grey would be nice.
New badge idea on the front is excellent!
Sponsors of the event on the back is a great idea. I don't think that any of the sponsors wouldn't mind having to buy a shirt considering the exposure they'd be getting.
I'd be willing to bet that John would sell a
minimum of 50 shirts...
VegasRacer
Jul 25 2006, 03:47 PM
The second shirt style seems to be the favorite, so let's go with it.
Here are the details from the vendor:American Apparel Organic Jersey TMaterial: 4.3 oz., 100% Organic Fine Jersey Cotton
Sizes: Adult: S, M, L, XL, XXL, XXXL
Product Description: This 100% organic shirt has baby ribbed stretchable collar and a double stitched bottom hem.
Comments: Less bulky and lighter weight, this T-shirt is a staff favorite. Made in the USA.
The only color available in this organic style is the natural / light tan.
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Jeroen
Jul 25 2006, 03:55 PM
Get me a list of sponsors and I'll finish up the artwork
TROJANMAN
Jul 25 2006, 05:05 PM
cool john.
can we get a navy print this year? (or something different than red)
Jeroen
Jul 25 2006, 05:52 PM
I think it's gonna look a pretty goofie if the red rock classic has a blue logo
VegasRacer
Jul 26 2006, 03:52 AM
Compromise -
-
Red &
Black for the large RRC graphic and sponsor's logos on the back,
Blue for the 914Club badge on the front.
Is there one major sponsor?
If so - their logo could be offset on the other side on the front.
TROJANMAN
Jul 26 2006, 07:33 AM
QUOTE(VegasRacer @ Jul 26 2006, 01:52 AM)
Compromise -
-
Red &
Black for the large RRC graphic and sponsor's logos on the back,
Blue for the 914Club badge on the front.
Is there one major sponsor?
If so - their logo could be offset on the other side on the front.
john,
sorry if i sounded like a nag. this is you project. do what you think will look best.
VegasRacer
Jul 26 2006, 07:42 AM
Not at all. I want everyones opinions and feedback. *
We are all in this together.
I don't want to be the only guilty one.
*(I can be a little bling in my taste sometimes)
VegasRacer
Jul 26 2006, 07:46 AM
. . . . or we could do the shirts in Cardinal and Gold.
. . . or
Salmon PINK.
TROJANMAN
Jul 26 2006, 07:59 AM
salmon would be down right hialrious
cardinal and gold
how can you go wrong.........
Jeroen
Jul 27 2006, 07:55 PM
come on guys... gimme a sponsor list
I wanna get the art work done over the weekend
TINCAN914
Jul 28 2006, 10:41 AM
Jerone,
I'm sorry it's my fault...
Getting some of these guy's to reply to me is like pulling teeth..
9 magazine finally committed but they still have not given me a list of things in the goody bags they are going to send.
Wayne at Pelican finally gave me a contact name there for event donations. I sent him a letter this morning, hopefully I will hear back from him no later then Monday....
So here is who we can list now, these guy's have either sent door prizes or have assured me they are.
CAMP914
Designing Specialties III (Spunone)
JWEST
PMB Performance
Moron Throttle
Appearance & Performance
US Divers
9 Magazine
No Bad Days Graphics.
The Howard Agency
Evil Werks
914 Club Administration
Turtle Mountain Brewery
Pelican Parts
When you have a chance, can you please send me over the artowrk, so I can have the stickers done up?
Thanks, and sorry for the delay.
Brian
Jeroen
Jul 28 2006, 01:57 PM
Thanks Brian
I'll get you the artwork over the weekend...
seanery
Jul 28 2006, 05:16 PM
Jeroen,
If you don't have it already, I have Camp 914, JWest, MoronThrottle, 914 Appearance & Performance in AI that I can send over.
John,
I ordered a shirt similar to that one once, and after washing it the sleeves were really short. I'll bet they'll send you a sample for free so you can be assured of the quality of the shirt.
VegasRacer
Jul 28 2006, 05:34 PM
Thanks for the heads-up Sean. I will investigate further.
I thought the sleeves looked short to start with.
Jeroen
Jul 31 2006, 06:33 PM
Ok, collecting sponsor logo's
Can someone get me the logo's from US Divers and Pelican Parts?
Perferably in .eps or .ai format, but most anything will do...
TINCAN914
Jul 31 2006, 08:26 PM
Sending....
Jeroen
Aug 1 2006, 05:39 PM
crap... that was a shit load of work
I had to vectorize more than half the logo's (specially the pelican was a PITA)
Plus had to make 2 logo's from scratch for people who didn't have any
I have more than a full day's work into this, so I felt my own logo deserved to be in there too
anyways... here's the collected logo's
Jeroen
Aug 1 2006, 05:45 PM
now we need to decide WHERE we're gonna put these...
because there's so many of them, it'll be hard to put the RRC logo on the back AND all the sponsors under it
If we want that, I'll have to change the RRC logo a little (see pic below)
and even then it's a bit of a stretch...
other option is to do the RRC logo on the front and all the sponsors on the back
in that case, we can do the sponsors in b/w to save some bucks...
lemme know what you think
brant
Aug 1 2006, 09:09 PM
holey moley..
thanks for doing so much work Jeroen!
that looks awesome!
mikes "evil works" looks awesome. are his and spunone the ones you created from scratch?
brant
TINCAN914
Aug 1 2006, 11:00 PM
Evil werks is killer!!! I want a shirt with just his logo on it...
Awesome work Jeroen.. My vote all logo's on the back.. I hate stuff on the front.. Just my vote. Can you have the sponsors around the RRC logo?
You can remove Team NARP, unless someone else talked with him? I never heard back from him regarding donations...
Also if were going to put the badge on the front, do we need it on the back..? That removes two, so it will free up some space..
Jeroen
Aug 2 2006, 04:18 AM
John told me Team Narp was in...
Lemme know if they're not
Yep, EvilWerks and SpunOne are made from scratch
They don't know what they'll get yet
I'll be back on saturday, so you've got some time to decide
I'll wrap things up when I get back and send it to John
VegasRacer
Aug 2 2006, 06:45 AM
That looks spectacular Jeroen.
(damn, that sure is a shit load of sponsor logos)
I think it is to much to have all the sponsors and the RRC logo on the back.
I vote for just the sponsors on the back.
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we can do the sponsors in b/w to save some bucks
Yes, we could save money if we did the sponsors in one color, but I think it looks great in red / black. I think a better way is to offer the best looking shirt possible so more people will purchase one. The more I sell, the lower the cost per shirt.
If we go with only the sponsors on the back, we should put some version of the RRC logo on the front instead of the new Club badge (since it is already going to be on the back).
A.) The RRC logo full size on the front.
Click to view attachmentB.) The full RRC logo pocket size on one breast.
C.) A partial RRC logo on the breast
Click to view attachment OR
Click to view attachment OR
D.) Other ideas? ? ?
Yes, I was the one who told Jeroen to add the Team NARP logo.
If anyone has a problem with that - send me a PM.
They are the official supplier of Cazadores for the Red Rock Classic.
I don't have anything to report on the style / color for shirt selection.
The shrunken sleeves are a concern with my original choice.
I will have more to report in a day or two.
I want to go public with the *official order thread* by this weekend.
TROJANMAN
Aug 2 2006, 09:12 AM
because the sponsors are going to have such a large display on the shirts, do you think it would be appropriate to ask for them to subsudize the cost?
I believe the 914club sponsor shirts that Seanery was making were being subsidized by said sponsors, which is why they were quite a bit cheaper
just an idea.......
TINCAN914
Aug 2 2006, 09:43 AM
QUOTE(VegasRacer @ Aug 2 2006, 04:45 AM)
That looks spectacular Jeroen.
(damn, that sure is a shit load of sponsor logos)
I think it is to much to have all the sponsors and the RRC logo on the back.
I vote for just the sponsors on the back.
QUOTE
we can do the sponsors in b/w to save some bucks
Yes, we could save money if we did the sponsors in one color, but I think it looks great in red / black. I think a better way is to offer the best looking shirt possible so more people will purchase one. The more I sell, the lower the cost per shirt.
If we go with only the sponsors on the back, we should put some version of the RRC logo on the front instead of the new Club badge (since it is already going to be on the back).
A.) The RRC logo full size on the front.
Click to view attachmentB.) The full RRC logo pocket size on one breast.
C.) A partial RRC logo on the breast
Click to view attachment OR
Click to view attachment OR
D.) Other ideas? ? ?
Yes, I was the one who told Jeroen to add the Team NARP logo.
If anyone has a problem with that - send me a PM.
They are the official supplier of Cazadores for the Red Rock Classic.
I don't have anything to report on the style / color to report for shirt selection.
The shrunken sleeves are a concern with my original choice.
I will have more to report in a day or two.
I want to go public with the *official order thread* by this weekend.
Ok John my bad.
I didn't hear back from Joe, so I wasn't sure if they were in or not.
I say the full RRC logo on the breast.
Eric_Shea
Aug 2 2006, 04:36 PM
QUOTE
salmon would be down right hialrious
Actually, a lot of the cool Moab shirts you see in the shops down there are a kind of stone washed rust color that matches the rocks.
Jeroen, would it be a quick Photoshop exercise to pull the color out of one of the photographs and match it? Might be cool
TROJANMAN
Aug 2 2006, 10:06 PM
QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Aug 2 2006, 02:36 PM)
QUOTE
salmon would be down right hialrious
Actually, a lot of the cool Moab shirts you see in the shops down there are a kind of stone washed rust color that matches the rocks.
don't get mad at me for that one.
QUOTE(VegasRacer @ Jul 26 2006, 05:46 AM)
. . . . or we could do the shirts in Cardinal and Gold.
. . or
Salmon PINK.
VegasRacer
Aug 4 2006, 01:33 PM
I spoke with my contact regarding the short sleeves and the organic shirt.
She said it is a styling thing. You know . . . very popular with hip teenagers.
Sooo . . . back to the traditional style for us vintage fogies.
Pick One:Natural.
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TROJANMAN
Aug 4 2006, 02:41 PM
can i throw in two cents?
I think the sponsor idea is cool, but it is a little over whelming.
I mean, it is supposed to be an "event" Tshirt, not a billboard.
Ok, maybe that was a nickel's worth. sorry
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