This is on ebay and from the way he describes the shift knob pattern its not a regular five speed. so is it a sportmatic or is he just confused. I wish it was closer so i could check it out.

Those are the letters/numbers on a sportomatic shift knob. Possibly the knob was changed or it is a very rare car with a sporto. Pictures are too poor to see if there is a clutch pedal. Worth asking the seller (In fact, I think I will).

Ad says it has a side shift tranny

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Just another eBay loser .........

maybe, but I still have more posts......

this is how a sportomatic knob should look like




Gustl

Sorry But...

That's neat Wolfgang... I've never seen that before.

I for one would love to try a sporto... nifty concept.

another one

It's a true european 914, does that mean that the rest of them were made

in Pacoima?

How many did they make with the sport-o-matic?

no - that just means that it has more power than the US-model


there are no confirmed production numbers for sportos - the most likely number is "about 25" ... maybe including two 914-4 sportos (WARNING - that's all just rumor)

Gustl

The ad does indicate a sporto shift knob. However, everything else indicates a standard 914/4 2.0. I don't believe any production 914/4 got a sporto, at least as late as 1973. Not to say that this was not converted to a sporto.
My money is on a, quickly changed, shift knob.

Ah, so the tranny wasn't a true automatic, it was an auto-stick similar to the Bug, right?

kinda

sportos had a vacuum operated clutch that engaged at the slightest movement of the shift lever...my bets as well that its just a shift knob change..

My car is a sporto










































I actually just found the knob in my Dad's 911's trunk and I didn't have one so now its on my 914.

Do sporto setups have a clutch pedal at all? If you look at the shot in the ad that shows the shift knob, you can just see the edge of the cutout in the carpet for the clutch pedal - though you can't see the pedal. So, either he's got a carpet set with an empty clutch cutout and a sporto tranny, or it's a swapped knob on a manual tranny setup.

Only two pedals on a sporto, brake and gas.

Had my 914 in for service in early '74 at Classic P/A (Cincinnati), which changed to Moser P/A, & is now Beechmont Porsche. There was an irish green 914/6 Sporto in for service (owner not present). Car appeared to be a Euro vehicle, since it had all the proper markings & no side markers. Service guy told me it belonged to a retired Army fellow, who had retired to the Cincy area. Never saw or heard of it again, but it WAS a Sporto.

Shortly after, I bought a '70 Sporto 911E. It was a great car around town & lots of fun to auto-x on tight/short courses - you could concentrate on steering & power, without concerning yourself with lots of shift input. Problem was getting used to NOT resting your fingers on the shifter, which caused a microswitch to disengage the clutch. Lots of fun though. One of those cars I'd like to have back.

Fellow that bought it from be blew it up in 2 months (they occasionaly need oil). Sat on a mechanics lot for 2 years before it went to auction for storage fees. Too bad - it was a pretty sweat car. Tangerine too, my third favorite color.

I believe that Panorama had an article by Kerry Morse that listed 25 914-6 Sportos by VIN. There were 4 in model year 1970, and 21 in model year 1971, if I recall correctly.

--DD

Tried to tweek the photo but still could make out a clutch peddle.

you all are looking at the wrong pic.

try the one viewing the shifter itself, you can see two pedals, and outline of clutch.

I knew rigth off that it was not a real sporto, the real ones had a real WIDE brake pedal which this one didnt have.

here are the pedals of a factory original sporto

ive seen pics of one before...I knew about that pedal.

I don't see it. I do see the slot in the carpet where a clutch pedal arm would go, but that only says that it's got the carpet from a manual transmission 914 on the driver's side.

In fact, the only pedal I see any of at all in that one image is the accelerator pedal.

But I must say that the chances of it being a Sporto (it is a 2.0 four-cylinder from the engine bay shot!) are astronomically small.

N.B., the Sportos did have a torque converter, as well as a servo-actuated clutch.

--DD

well, but there might be others interested and haven't seen it yet

On my ibook the pic was brighter, here is the enhanced one showing the three pedals.

a bigger one maybe

Those still aren't pedals. They're the rubber gromets around the slots in the carpet. In fact, it is possible that the pedal cluster isn't even installed in the car, at least from what this picture shows!

But we're arguing very tiny and almost irrelevant points. Chances are well over 99% that the car in question merely has a Sporto shift knob, and not a Sporto transmission.

--DD

i knew those looked like wierd pedals...


Well i tried.

definately not a sporto, since there are three gasket hole things.

What's your reasoning there? Like you could NEVER put manual trans floor mats on a Sporto? Gimme a break! The Cap'n

Well you buy it and let me know if its a speedo or not...

And this is important enough to bitch over?

there were no sideshift speedos...

yes ...

you got about 20 posts in this thread claiming that this is *not* a sporto car when in fact you have *no* proof to back up that claim.

that is more than enough to keep on bitching ...
Andy

"Ask Seller a Question"

I did.....yesterday. No response yet.

I dont really care about this.

OK. Here is my question and answer from seller:
"Shift knob is for a Porsche Sportmatic transmission. Does the car have a Sportomatic transmission (no clutch pedal, only brake and accelerator)? Thanks"
"It appears that it is just a sideshift transaxle, although there are many differences than a US model. Thanks for your interest."

It "appears" it is not a sporto. Damn

see my reply about there being no sideshift sportos, which was blatently mentioned in the ad. Add in the fact that the there were arguably no 73 sportos, and only remors of a 914/4 sporto, and you arrive at the conculsion that I made about the car in the first place.

Facts are as follows;

- it is a 73 model so even if it is a sporto it is not an original stock one.
anyone could take a sporto from a 911 and make the change.
That really is not as desirable as exciting as one of the 25 original 914 sportos.

so keep on truckin'

here is a photo of an original sporto from AA.

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yes, yes, that's all true, but your PROOF was a picture of a floormat where you claimed *you* could see a clutch pedal while in fact there was no pedal visible in the picture, because the picture didn't show that part at all.

dude, don't you get it? your *proof* was missing the pudding!

i never said that the car was in fact a sporto, all i said was that your claim was utterly flawed ...
Andy

The seller has updated the ad to say that it does have a clutch pedal.

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How come :peanutgallery: doesn't work yet??