Ok, so i have a eurorace header. 4-1 hits a "turbo" muffler behind the trans and exits out the stock location...

what i would like to do, is make a Sport/GT muffler with the 2 tips and maybe even have the stock third outlet out the stock location... but retain the "bannana" shape

want the look and a gnarly sound, but can i make it work and look ok with a header system?

so i guess i would need a stock 4 or 6 or 911 bannana to gut.. and then weld up the inputs and weld a single 2.5" inlet from the collector?


your thoughts?

would look cool, may offer a bit of performance (uncork the sport pipes/cap em on the street), and hopefully sound cool.

Opinions welcomed.


-This look-

with this style /4 header system

Yes

use a sc , carrera muffler single inlet /outlet, Flip it so the inlet/outlet is on the right (for your header) Do the uppfixxin sport mod .....done.

fountit - unfortunately the SC/Carrerra mufflers are waaaay different.

Throw away your orange ear plugs and get a pair of these -

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*(you'll look cool - chicks will dig it)

Sorry for the post deletion since it was not what you asked for and would have put me in a "Post Hijacking Hoe" catagory. Assuming noone has labeled me that yet

Just to be ahead of the bitchers and complainers.

I like the exhaust idea

crazy..i want to do the exact same thing with my car....post pictures of how you do everything please

Why bother?

Just unbolt it and attach a Supertrapp on the end.....looks like a big schlong....when the Betty's inquire, you simply say....mine's the same size.....

Then they'll ask....do ya have Mike's phone number?????

ok- winter break is here... project time...
this is easily doable.....

so i got a FREE + shipping deal on an SC muffler....
here is the lovely peach ....err.... surgery victim

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i found a thread on gutting SC/Carerra Mufflers on Pelican.

this is what they do...

open it up. remove center bulkead and baffles....
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and here is a view from each end...
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the gutted center section
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then all i gotta do is make the 2 center exits... and im inbusiness....


should start on it this week... tempted to go cut it open right now

MK muffler will build you anything you want in stainless. I am having a GT type (Dual Outlet) build for my car as we speak. Contact Dave B. at TRE Motorsports. I will email you pics when I get the car back.

Take care,

Dan

that takes all the fun out if it dan!

just bored without a project - and this seems like a no brainer..

how you been man?

AA

good thread...im going to have to bookmark this for further use...what are you going to do about the outlet pipes?

i think that megaphone outlets would look sick...

i was gonna do twin 2" pipe.... about 6" or so long....

ive seen the megaphone idea done before.... not sure its my thing

Aaron will that not be as loud as LAX,,, not that I mind.

PROGRESS!

so today the bannaner went under the knife...

my internals were a bit different then the pelican article seen here-
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread....threadid=181627

my nanner is from an SC and is about the same as a carerra...

so i opened it up.... what a PITA the spotwelds were (6 of em) about 5/8" diameter...
pilot hole kept wandering.... so i had to use a 1" hole saw.... (get to weld up those holes later....)

bgean cutting.
you can see the big ol holes to drill out the bulkhead spotwelds....
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so the top was open now take out the innards....
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went thru 4 cutting discs, 3 sawzall blades and some hammer and chisel work to remove it all.... took a few hrs..... wish i had a torch...

a view into each side....
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just a remock up to make sure the shape hasnt changed....
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now in this pic.. you can see where the outlet of the header is on the opposite side of the car...the inlet will have to be relocated...
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chop chop the inlet. will be capped.... and relocated....
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i will post a schematic of how i plan to mount/hang it off the trans, and where the inlet will be plumbed...

lookin' cool Aaaaaaaaaaaaaron.

Nothing a SUPER Sawzall couldn't have fixed in a minute or two......

how does the weight compare?

by getting rid of a full bodied turbo muffler and the pipes, I would think it might be a bit lighter.

I will be interested in seeing how this turns out. I might try one myself...

I have a super light muffler for tracks where sound is not a problem...

i like that, dan -- you ought to weld it up.

It is already to go...bolts right up to my header and the bracket bolts to the rear of the tranny....it is LOUD

Aaron,

I love your projects, "they make me feel young again." I am doing fine. Do you remember the the car attached from the Ventura show?

Dan

hey dan -

glad to hear you are doing fine! thanks for the compliments....

that car was stunning!!! a beast like yours!!!

Aaron looks great hope you get the SOUND you wont. FYI your local If you ever need to cut like that again Come up and use my Plasma cutter and welders. Same for any 914 owner in So cal.
I love the sound of mine.

right on! if i am ever in the area, i will hit you up. (leamon right?)

BTW - how much por 20 to paint this bad boy when im done?

AA,

I am loving this thread.....

I believe the Jakester tested sumpin like this and gave it high marks.

Oh..... And dan..... Sorry about the drool marks on your windsheild at Ventura......
It just happens..... When I see your ride......

You just happen to own my dream car...............

Clayton

Correct

Looking good bud.

Excellent idea.

BTW - anyone have flange dimensions for the euro race? i dont recall the dimensions and i have to have a flange made up (i remember i got the gaskets at the v8 shop)

BTW2 - how much por 20 do i need to paint this thing?

Aaron,
the header flange on my setup is 3 bolt 3" centers. Pipe diameter is 2 inch.
And I got gaskets at flaps from MR. Gasket that work fine.

thanks dan!

No problem, Aaron.

keep us posted, I want to build one.

woohoo.. more progress.

2.25" OD J bend (4" radius) from Jegs.com came today, along with a section of 2.25" OD straight tubing.....
got a flange from the muffler shop (2.5" ID )

ready to weld!!!

here is the plan!

Paint's on the way Biatch

Merry Christmas

woohoo!

cant wait to weld this bitch up... and paint it with POR 20...

eric

Now Eric...dont tell me you get it from Aaron too! Gahh....

Dude... what don't you get about

Me=Stud

but wait! there is more! LOL

spent all afternoon with craig downs trying to weld this bad boy up...

HUGE thanks to craig for all the help today (and tomorrow)

we got most of it done today.... another 2 holes/2 pipes to do... and weld the top on....

starting to make the input hole from the collector
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finished hole...
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with the mandrel bend...
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craig spent most of the day welding in patches for the drilled out spotwelds...

metal was real thin.. and proved to be a PITA!
he had to go from mig to gas welding.

before finishwelding the input pipe...

grinders are your friend!

my feeble attempt at welding up the original inlet hole.

pre-grinding.

Now that's talent... i've never seen a dog shit in a circle... did you teach him that yourself?

Just ribbing the welds. Progress looks good

BJH

BJ - laptop cleanup bill heading your way.. (snot removal from laughing so hard!)

more progress!

taking shape!

more!

craig is da man! spent another hlaf day with me on this.
we got all but the connection pipe between the collector and the new muffler done, and we made up a mount for the tranny....

we had his miller on the lowest setting and kept having hole issues... craig suggested we let his friend tig it up

thanks again craig!

last one for today!

That's weird. I read that in a post earlier as well... thin? My 911 muffler was something like 4-6 ply stainless. We just buzzed away at it with the MIG. No issues.

your neighbors are gonna hate you!