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Johny Blackstain
I was thinking of going out & buying a nice round wooden baseball bat to cut at the right spot & use that as my custom Mahle center cap removal tool. There seems to be no way of removing them w/out damaging otherwise & don't really know if this will work either. Thoughts?


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SLITS
I believe it was a 2" piece of PVC pipe that will remove them by catching the edge. Your measurement may vary (meaning I don't remember).
Johny Blackstain
QUOTE(SLITS @ Jul 5 2007, 03:12 PM) *

I believe it was a 2" piece of PVC pipe that will remove them by catching the edge. Your measurement may vary (meaning I don't remember).

Don't believe anymore, know. It rocks! That & a rubber mallett sent them flying- good thing I did it over carpeting! No damage @ all. Danke!


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orthobiz
I bought these tools from Brad Mayeur, 914 Ltd. I haven't installed my hubcaps yet (especially since I don't even have tires for my Fuchs!) but I think the concept is cool. He's at 309-694-1797. I haven't checked all the sites yet but I don't remember seeing them anywhere else. At 33 bucks a pop, those hubcaps are worth saving!

The inside of the hard rubber shorter tube that impacts the hubcap for installation has a little machined inner groove shown in the detail and fits perfectly around the hubcap.

The metal tube goes through the back of the wheel and fits perfectly as the pictures show!

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A cute little unmolested hubcap.

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Happy family of tools.

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Impacting tool viewed from the striking surface.

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Impacting tool as viewed from the wheel.

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Impacting tool has an inner groove and does not fit the other way.

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Disimpacting tool and hubcap. Made of metal.

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Disimpacting tool as it would work from behind the wheel.

Paul
orthobiz
Sorry, I spoke too soon. Brad has no more hubcap installation/removal kits, apparently the fellow who made them died!

Paul
Johny Blackstain
thumb3d.gif No doubt that is one fine tool & I'd rather have that than a piece of 2" PVC pipe, but it did work well, no scratches, dents, dings, etc... Unlike the tool however, PVC pipe is only good for removal & not installation. I'll have to use my palm & a rubber mallett & be careful not to dent/ding dry.gif .


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914rrr
QUOTE(Johny Blackstain @ Jul 6 2007, 04:57 PM) *

thumb3d.gif No doubt that is one fine tool & I'd rather have that than a piece of 2" PVC pipe, but it did work well, no scratches, dents, dings, etc... Unlike the tool however, PVC pipe is only good for removal & not installation. I'll have to use my palm & a rubber mallett & be careful not to dent/ding dry.gif .


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There is a PVC (plumbing?) fitting that will work as an installation tool, I just don't remember which one it is. I took my cap to Homer Depot and shopped around until I found the right one.
easy e
I did some measuring & didn't find a PVC pipe/fitting that would give optimal results (off the shelf). But, with a little shaving... it should be do-able with just a couple minutes of filing.

When I get the stuff... I'll report back with effectiveness/fit.

I ordered some parts from www.flexpvc.com
Total came to $19.74 delivered.

To knock cap out of rim, I ordered:
1.5" Class 200 pipe (1 foot): OD: 1.900" wall thickness: 0.090"
Product ID: CL200-015
I think I'll have to shave a fuzz off the ID... so it will sit fully in the annular ring... for knocking it out without pushing on the central flat area.
(Schedule 40 or 80 pipe can be used (same OD)... but would require more shaving on the ID, to prevent pushing (at all) on the central flat area.)

1.5" cap... to tap against.
Product ID: 447-015

To seat cap in rim, I ordered:
2.5" Schedule 80 pipe (1 foot): OD: (doesn't matter) ID: 2.290"
Product ID: Sch80-025
I'll have to shave a little off the ID and probably bevel the bottom edge slightly, as the cap outer lip is not perfectly flat.

2.5" cap... to tap against.
Product ID: 447-025
KELTY360
I use an ABS adapter fitting that has a 2" id on one end and a 2 1/4 id on the other. The larger end is threaded for a cleanout plug but I glued in a thin foam to protect the center cap when installing.

The narrow end works well to tap on for removal and the larger end fits over the cap for installation.

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easy e
QUOTE(KELTY360 @ Nov 22 2015, 10:04 PM) *

The narrow end works well to tap on for removal.
Can you clarify this please?

I'm interested because I have a cap that is all bulged out on the side... mid-taper... like someone used a 36mm socket to whack it out from the inside... and wondering if your removal method is basically the same / or not.

I've got another cap where the small outer annular ring (that is folded over and rests against the rim face) is not flat anymore and is expanded... like an accordion.

Ideally... something that has the same OD as the wheel center ID could push on the very bottom of the cap... then no distortion to the visible part could ever happen. The cap wall thickness is 0.71mm... so it'd have to be pretty precise.
KELTY360
QUOTE(easy e @ Nov 24 2015, 08:29 AM) *

QUOTE(KELTY360 @ Nov 22 2015, 10:04 PM) *

The narrow end works well to tap on for removal.
Can you clarify this please?

I'm interested because I have a cap that is all bulged out on the side... mid-taper... like someone used a 36mm socket to whack it out from the inside... and wondering if your removal method is basically the same / or not.

I've got another cap where the small outer annular ring (that is folded over and rests against the rim face) is not flat anymore and is expanded... like an accordion.

Ideally... something that has the same OD as the wheel center ID could push on the very bottom of the cap... then no distortion to the visible part could ever happen. The cap wall thickness is 0.71mm... so it'd have to be pretty precise.


Yes, the narrower diameter has basically the same OD as the wheel center ID. I usually put a small block of wood against the adapter to spread the force when I tap out the center cap.
Cuda911
Here's a link to my thread with tools you can get at Home Depot for about $5:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...er+cap+tool+PVC
easy e
The install part of all the methods are pretty great... pretty hard to do damage... as all the previously compressed parts of the cap are still in acted on under compression.

I'm not wild about any of the 'getting it out' PVC methods so far...(besides the steel one)... since the thick wall of the PVC pushes on the flat of the cap. I have some caps where the flat is pressed out.

The steel method requires machining ($$)... the PVC Class 200 method is only a little filing. With this method... the only part of the cap seeing a force in a direction not previously seen is the flat annular ring at the rim surface. It's pretty forgiving there.

But... if the $5 method is tried and true... can't really argue with it.

I spent $15 more... but my local store doesn't have Class 200 ... and saved a trip to the store. Relative wash... or pretty close... I'm ok with eating it. I'll still post up how it goes with the bits being shipped to me.
Mikey914
Why I never made the "special tool" much simpler to use the PVC pipe method.
easy e
My PVC stuff arrived & I filed just a fuzz off the ID of each pipe.
Shaved a little of the 2.5" ID
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Cap sits in nice:
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Considering cap wall thickness... this is a good fit:
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ID reduced... so not to touch the 'flat':
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I picked my best original cap to experiment on:
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I don't have a rubber mallet... so I put a rag there to extend the impact time:
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Worked like a charm:
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Mikey914
Very Nice.
Galvanic corrosion can really make these stick in there.
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