Andy nd others that have done it.
what is a budget to set aside for a 3.6 liter conversion?
Robust, built up tranny, axles that last etc etc.

I would prefer to go with the EFI, but if I can make it work with carbs it would look cool...

Rich

here's a more or less complete list of my stuff, i only list stuff that was somewhat related to the engine conversion itself and i'm *not* counting hours.

also, i'm still running the stock 901, i just don't use 1st gear anymore ....


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7,500.00 - 3.6L Motor from a '95 993, stock injection
750.00 - 944 Axle Conversion, using a 911 5-lug hub
350.00 - Fluidyne Front Oil Cooler DB-30618
170.00 - Oil Line (35 ft)
55.00 - SS Fuel Lines
10.00 - Rubber Fuel Line
100.00 - Mocal Oil Thermostat
30.00 - 1/2 BSP to AN-12 Fittings
700.00 - Aftermarket Oil Tank
150.00 - Oil Tank filler neck
140.00 - 914/993 Conversion Throttle Cable
380.00 - 993 to 914 engine conversion harness
250.00 - 993 single belt crank pulley
1000.00 - 1 3/4 headers, ceramic coated
432.00 - KEP Stage II 225mm Clutch Package
115.00 - Oil Hardline, adapts 30 mm to an-12
20.00 - Mahle Tank Oil Filter
45.00 - Mocal Oil Filter Head
10.00 - Oil Filter
3.00 - Oil Inlet O-Ring
192.00 - Mobil 1 Synthetic 0W40 Motor Oil
125.00 - 993 Fuel Pump
20.00 - 993 Fuel Filter
375.00 - 944 CV Joint Kit (4)
80.00 - AN-16 120 Bend Hose End
35.00 - Steel Braided AN-16 Line
45.00 - AN-16 Pro-Lite Hose
55.00 - Oil Inlet Union
200.00 - Cam Block Off Plates
100.00 - Modified Coil Mount
400.00 - Reproduction 914-6 Sheet Metal
10.00 - Air Injection Port Block Off Kit
60.00 - 3.2L Intake Boot
40.00 - Oil Cooler support bracket welding
12.00 - Additional 993 Distributor Vent
25.00 - 993 Distributor Drive Belt
140.00 - 993 O2 Sensor
25.00 - 10W30 NAPA Oil (for flushing the oil system)
11.00 - Engine Oil Filter (for flushing the oil system)
12.00 - Tank Oil Filter (for flushing the oil system)
45.00 - Various Hoses
12.00 - Idle Air Hose
3.00 - Fuse Pack for FI brain
3.00 - 30 Amp Fuse Holder for FI brain
12.00 - New Positive Battery Cable
65.00 - Fuel Injection Hose
15.00 - K&N Recharge Kit
35.00 - Oil Temp Sender
30.00 - 901 Tranny Gasket Set
50.00 - Gallon Swepco Transmission Oil
35.00 - ECU Mount Kit
10.00 - Heat Shrink Tubing
8.00 - CV Joint Gaskets
7.00 - Spade Connectors
5.00 - Primer/Sealer
30.00 - Brake Cleaner
480.00 - Miscellaneous bits and pices
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Total in parts: $15,017.00


Andy

A 915 trans will do a better job than a 901....but it's STILL a weak link. I tanked mine after about 20K miles. Also a WEVO cable shift is best.....

Keep the FI....

$1000 just to think about it
Another $1000 to reconsider
Another $1000 to decide it's a go
Then you get into the real money. All the rest run at $3-5000 intervals

I have no idea! Just haven't had much time to be a smart ass today

It will definately be spendy & depending on your level of expertise?
The more you have to pay to have work done the price gets astronomical

Holy Cow Andy!!!

I think I'll definitely stick with my 3.0 conversion now.

Did you convert your car from a 4-cylinder?

Do you need the single belt pulley? Can you run a 3.6 with 1 5/8" headers?

> Did you convert your car from a 4-cylinder? - YES

> Do you need the single belt pulley? - NO, but the stock pulley would just be dead weight as i don't run anything off it besides the alternator

> Can you run a 3.6 with 1 5/8" headers? - YES, but you might lose some higher rpm power

i never said my list is a MUST for a 3.6L engine. you sure can use different parts, less quality parts, smaller parts, cheaper parts, used parts or anything else you can come up with.

i simply listed what *i* used for my conversion. the price was actually closer to $20k as i did some additional work "while i was in there" that was not directly related to the bigger motor.

but if you're converting from a /4 car, you may also want to consider bigger/better brakes and updated suspension, which will set you back another few grand ...

and then you might be inclined to make it look nice too.

and stiffen the chassis a bit. maybe a long kit or even a rollcage.

and then ...


Andy

damn you, now you made me add it all up ...

$ 21805.11


Andy

See.... this is why I have a big stack of receipts I never will look at and will just be passed on if I ever sell the car.

i want to ride in that car

That is less than I expected. You can do a decent Raby four for less than this, but if you want a lot of power I suspect you will be looking at a similar bill - especially when you factor in the SDS, tangerine system, etc.


Cheers, Steve

Andy's bill of materials looks pretty good. I added up everything that I could think of in about 5 minutes one time and it was somewhere around $20k. Once I got to that point, I put the pencil down and decided I didn't really want to know anymore.

I also have a 901, so that's a little cheaper at this point. As long as it holds together.

Keep the stock fuel injection unless you are going to bigger cams, etc. I get about 26 mpg on average. Try that with carbs.

Is that with some "spirited" driving? Mixed highway/street?

Did you also use the 944 axles? Is that the best 'bang' for the buck?

yes. i get about 24 mpg with a lot of "spirited driving" ...

i get close to 30 mpg on long trips like the 2000 mile run to moab last year ...
Andy

That's looks pretty accurate according to my list. I did a 915 Wevo conversion that approached 10K with cost of tranny/conversion/gate shift/limited slip/bearing retainer/etc...

So I guess that brings me up to about $30K........ouch!!

That includes very spirited driving. I think the worst I've seen is 18 mpg, but that included an autocross school where all I did was beat on it all day. I do check it every time I fill up, just for curiosity.

I do have an H for fifth, so that should help on the highway.

That's why I decided to stick with the 901. At least for now. Clay is talking about using a G-50 for his mythical 4-liter. I would like to do that if it works out.

Almost forgot your other question. I'm using the stock 4-cyl CVs and axles at this point. I'd prefer they break before the tranny. I may upgrade later, dunno.