Anyone out there have pictures of Roger Sheridan's car without the body work on it? Preferably closeups of the chassis. Any one have the color print articles of the European car articles on that car?

December 93
May 94
November 94
January 96

There was another issue but it was later, maybe 97-99. Had a two or threee page article. Can't remember what issue, I lost it sometime in the past.

I will buy the magzines if you will part with them otherwise how bout scanning them in and posting them on the net or emailing them to me?

Jason Samson has or had some great detailed pictures that he took a few years ago when he, Brad and myself stopped by his old place to visit.

A work of engineering art

I'd ask permission first to post them publicly (we did ask to take the pictures)

Please ask him or have him contact me.

I have a couple... don't know if it's what you're looking for though

cheers,

Jeroen

AWESOME!!!!! exactly the type of stuff I am looking for. Keep them coming? Where did you get those?

Hey Brett,

These are all I have of the Sheridan car
(I have a couple of outside shots of the car with the body work on, but these don't show much detail)

I got these off the internet somewhere

Some people collect porn pics on their computer
I collect stuff like this
(I consider it 914 porn )

I thought I had one which shows different ducting of the hoses that run to the engine compartment
Instead of running from a NACA duct in the pass side window (like the pics above show), they came from a NACA duct in the roof, just in front of the rear window.

If I can find it, I'll post it later...

cheers,

Jeroen

Um.. Jeroen.. Jason and I shot all of those pics..

I dont think that Roger would be very happy with us posting them. He spent 15k on the frame work alone.

Brett,

What EXACTLY are you looking for ??


B

Oh.. one of them we didnt shoot. The interior shot from the race track.

I know we shot these because I told Roger to lose the RX7 cooler he was running and go with twin 993 oil coolers... which he did.


B

Not to be a wise ass, but is there really a 914 in those pictures?
Is it entirely a tubeframe car?


Paul

Tube frame. The only thing 914 is the windshield post. Just like my car. SCCA required it in the past when we where both building the cars.

B

Is that the 914 that looks like a gt1??

Andrew

I love it.

Does he run a 3.6? How many HP?

Paul

Nope. That is Ron Mistaks car from San Diego.


B

I believe this is his car:

Roger is running a 3.2 right now with coil on twin plug Motec, based on a 993 3.6 liter engine. STOCK 3.6 heads with Aase springs.. NO port work.. destroked crank. Short stroke large bore combo, GT3RS oil pump, with a custom ground GE100 based cams. 8600 RPM 365hp.

I know the combo because we have a twin too it that is based on a 3.2 case (8200 RPM 330hp)

Roger and I are pretty tight.


B

Oh ok, looked like it from the color..

Man that looks beautiful..



thanks

Andrew

About 20" wider than stock?

More pics of other cars and his body kits can be found at Ultimate 914.

How fast is he relative to 911's?
I mean what beats him, GT3's, Turbos?

Paul

Quick funny story..

I'm standing at a vendors booth at the German Autofest last summer and notice in car video playing on a monitor in this guy's booth. I ask him if it is him driving.. he says yes.. I notice it is Laguna... he says yes... I notice it is a POC event.. he says yes.. We chat about his products. He rewinds the tape for me. I watch him exit pit lane and line up on grid.. "cool I think" I'll at least watch the start. Start goes well everything looks good. His car is pulling nicely. Several laps go by and I notice ONE car go flying past him on the DOWNHILL section going into turn 2. I laugh OUT LOUD. I say to the guy.. HUH.. it appears ROGER SHERIDAN in his 914 is faster than you in your 2001 CARRERA CUP FACTORY RACE CAR... LOL LOL He was a little embarrased/pissed with me.."yeah.. well blah blah.. I suck... cant drive..." blah blah..

Score one for the 914.


B

Must be nice.....

Brad
I am trying to get a better look at his chassis and suspension design. I would like some close ups of the rear trailing arms, and front suspension.

I will never use this suspension design for a nationally competetive 914 but I know Roger's car is damn fast, too bad he doesn't have the cash to support a national campaign.

SCCA changed the rules to allow dual a-arms front and rear at a weight penalty and in my opinion that is a better way to go. I really don't have any desire to build an aircooled engine to run in a class where the Toyotas and Nissans are making 375- 450+hp at a lighter wieght. I am designing a chassis to handle a Boxster body and run a water cooled 4 valve Boxster engine. The chassis will be basically a WSC/Prototype style chassis with in the rules. So it should be competetive for many years. YES it will cost a small fortune.

Too bad the 914 can't be competetive in GT3. until there are some better heads available it never will be. hard to run down a 300+hp Toyota.

Is this in the 2004 GCR ?? I read thru some of it last week. You have to be careful if you are reading it out of the SCCA mag.. it can be confusing. They talked of allowing it in the front end only back in 2001. Then they reversed the decision. Rogers car runs a semi trailing arm just like a typical 914. He built the car around the rules for GT2 SCCA 1996.

Have they classified the water cooled engines yet for GT2 ??


B

I am in the process of getting a classification of the watercooled engines now. I see no reason why it won't go through, (unless that little SCCA vs. Porsche spat is still going hard).
_____________________________________________________________________
From the 2002 GCR

"For all GT cars registered as GT cars after January 1, 1990, the type of
front suspension is unrestricted, except that rocker arms and push-pull
rods are prohibited. Front wheel drive cars may convert to rear wheel
drive. The “base” standard front engine, rear wheel drive configuration
shall use a live “closed tube” rear axle. The “base” standard front wheel
drive configuration. shall use a beam rear axle, unless otherwise so
specified on the specification line.

Cars classified in GT2-5 may use independent rear suspension, by design or choice, at a 5% weight penalty that will be specified on the vehicle spec line.

All mid-engine GT cars may use the manufacturer’s original type of suspension,
MacPherson strut-type, or double A-arm front and rear independent
suspension as defined above.


____________________________________________________________________

The way I read this I can run any dual a-arm suspension front or rear as long as it follows the rules.

Yes Roger was indeed functioning under the old rules as was the car you have, built.

This is not an inherent problem but GT2 is about to get really interesting. I here calls for making it a 400+hp class. Allowing the 20b for the Mazada and some wieght breaks to really seperate the GT2 feild from the GT3 field. They just gave the 914 up to 3.4 litres at a 2380 lbs. They gave the Mazda 13b PP unlimited venturies. The next couple of years will be really different as GT2 tries to recover from the probation.

We called them on the 2002 rules.. I suggest you call them also. They IX-Na'd us when we asked about that exact rule. I know they just classified the Carrera Cup car in GT2 with some weight.

I want you to succeed, but we "had" a local member who sat on the comp. board.. and we specifically asked about this rule because we where going to totally redo the front end of both tube frame cars we have and redo the rear.. They know exactly what the 914 came with.

Roger semi got around this by using a dummy Bilstein strut that appears to have a functioning shock in it.. but the actual dampening is done with a inboard mounted Penske.


B

Actually this line right hear answers everything:




Original type suspension.. our cars never came with double A arms...



B

We read it the same way you did the day they released it.. we had the phone in one hand and the plasma cutter in the other..


B

I wish I had the 04 rule book in front of mine but the way I read that is you can use the manufacturers type of suspension, i.e. strut and semi trailing arm or your choice of the following....

The second line says All GT2-5 cars can run any type of rear suspension at a 5% weight penalty. That says to me I can run a dual a-arm rear.

Yeah Roger's rules were quiet a bit more restrictive and Swift, Alain Clarainval, Brian Bertold, Bill Cartier, etc all did a kick ass job of finalizing a very competetive chassis. He built the car the way I would have had I been more than about 13 back in the day. Engineered To the exact limit of the rules.

The only way to build the best race cars are to look at every little subsystem and make sure it is maximized. This is how you beat the rest of the field. When you develop every part of the system to the maximium you will be unstoppable.

Ahhh yes Grasshopper. We all want to read it "our way", but that is not how SCCA works. Call them and explain what you want to do.. dont be afraid of hearing NO. BTDT.

The word's "Your choice of the following" are not in that line. You cant read into it.

There is a reason why they specifically "called out" the mid-engine cars in that rule.. they know the cars and what they came with.



No. It says:


B

Dirty rat bastards! I need a lawyer to interpret the damn rules. Maybe I should skip the engineering degree and straight to law school. If I can't build a faster car I can always politic and rule it into the winners circle. So goes the real world.

Perhaps I should add the SCCA rules office to my shop speed dial. Kinda like keeping the IRS on speed dial as well. Is it bad when they know you by voice?

WOW.....
That is beautiful

I feel your pain. I want desperately to have a winning SCCA GT2 914, but until we can run water cooled engines.. I dont feel it will happen. Heat soak kills us.


B

I sell and run Rogers racing Fiberglass on our cars also.


B

That is why I am pushing hard to get the water cooled motor listed on the line with the Boxster. It ain't a 914 but it is mid engine and Porsche. Until they do away with that 2valve head listing on the 914 line we are still stuck in the 60s.

Yeah Aircooled motors run great on the first lap but then they get warmed up. We see that all the time in GTU and HSR.

Roger's car could possibly take a National with the right driver and development. The car is that good I believe. Too bad the pockets aren't deep enough. Daves car is extremely fast espcially for a 20 year old 944. just those damn factory sponsered Nissans and Toyotas.

I still want to do a 914 GT3 car but the heads are the major hold up. I could get 250 but it would be a super grenade and the heads would be illegal. I notice the rules said Type1 heads perhaps I could read that to mean Pauter Machine heads. They are based on the type 1. I think you can run water cooled heads as well there may be something there. There I go interpreting again. HEHE!

A 914 will prevail somewhere.

I take it you're not allowed to run any other kind of engine in there?

Are you allowed to run say a type IV crank case with watercooled cylinders and heads?

I deleted that post that was referring to GT1. nevermind. Yeah keeping all the rules straight is a pain in the ass. be nice if every organization would get on the same page.

It's a spectacular car...but does Roger still drive it much? I haven't seen it in person since 2001, I think.

I'm kinda torn whether my next race car should be an all-out 914 or a later-model factory race car, which for better or worse might be more rules-friendly and have better resale value. Not that this matters right now while the bank account is still digit-challenged.

I'm 100% sure I got the pics off a public website (just can't remember where / which one - and no, I didn't get them from you)

Since they were posted on a public site, I didn't see any harm posting them here

I'll delete my posts with the pics... don't need to step on anyones toes

cheers,

Jeroen

BTW, I honestly don't think it matters
It would be absolutely impossible to build a copy of the frame/car based on these (or any) pictures
The pics would give you some general hints and tips, but that's it...

cheers,

Jeroen

Knew i shoulda coppied them yesterday. Time to search the cache.

Not to mention it would be impossible to build a car anything like that without a BIG pile of cash AND a WHOLE lot of engineering and fabrication expertise.

Personally I dunno if many extreme tube-frame 914 look-alikes are really getting built these days? Weren't most of them conceived or finished in the 80's and 90's? Seems like most p-car racers now gravitate towards early 911 tub cars, or late factory race cars.

Roger has been running mostly northern events. Running Willow Springs every 3 weeks gets old real quick. He ran Laguna last year and Thunderhill.

He just built a new castle in Paso Robles with a 6 car garage that is a dead ringer for the house. Water fountain in the drive way.. vulgar display of wealth. He has no kids.

I know of only a few 914's being built right now (none on this scale).

Jeroen.. I'm sure you found those buried in my all914 site somewhere along the line.

It truelly isnt that big of a deal.. I try to respect peoples privacy.


B

Just curious, what was Roger's "day job"?

I've gotta believe that 914 fiberglass kits probably wouldn't fund a castle...in fact might not even fund an Ultimate 914 like his own

He is a "voice guy" for radio. He does commercials (which he can do at home)


B

I'm a voice guy also..

"Next on the main stage issssss..... Cindy.. lets have a big round of applause for Cindy...

I do a great strip club DJ voice...LOL



B

so why isn't he here on this BBS?

i believe we all (including him!) would benefit from him joining the board ...
Andy

He's a "Voice Over" I Have heard of Voice overs getting paid $100K for 10 total weeks of work.

Enjoy this voice over video