This is a very embarrassing post however a few weeks ago, some local guys convinced me to take two of my cars up to a local drag strip for a test and tune night. My 911 is not exactly set up for drag racing however I figured that I should have no problems against Dodge Rams (with very modified Cummins Diesels). Well, I was wrong.

I did get a lot of wheel spin and my clutch is slipping however I thoroughly got my butt kicked. The truck that I was racing, let off the throttle because I was so far behind. I think that he normally runs 1/4 miles in the mid 12's. My time was pathetic. If everything was running right, I think that I would have gotten low to mid 13's.

We were going to race my Cayenne Turbo (with the baby seat in back!) vs the rams but we ran out of time.

I defense of the Porsche crowd- my car was basically stock (I did not have mufflers on during race) and their trucks were heavily modified.

Next time, I will take them to race a road coarse against my 914- that would be fun to watch.

heres the post (my race is about midway through the video):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g4T02MI89Q

Just because it's a Porsche doesn't mean it's fast.

Sounds like it would have been a good commercial for Dodge trucks though!

Those Cummins plants can be monsterously powerful with only a little bit of tuning.

They come way detuned from the factory. Those pickups can stomp just about everything in a straight line.

Zach

yup i got one ...600lbs of torque +

The important thing was that it was fun. I am pretty sure that my wifes Cayenne Turbo would have gotten beat however I think that it would have been a better fight. Her Cayenne is just shy of 600 hp. Very fast grocery getter.

Yeah, those trucks can generate scary amounts of power and torque with little effort. My understanding is just a chip will get you close to 1000 lb-ft of torque.

Yeah...

-Josh2

Classic!!! Those trucks arent modified much either, just add extra fuel and turn up the boost. The trucks you see at the track usually have a bigger turbo and a head gasket if they are running over 60lbs of boost. A guy down the street has one that runs low 10's on street tires...

Sorry the cayenne would have gotten beat for sure.

Those trucks can brake boost to launch in 4wd cutting 1.5-1.6 60ft times on street tires. The drivetrain can certainly take it.


I got my ass handed to me by a few diesel trucks, in my GTi that makes 400whp and weighs 2800lbs with me in it.

They get out and a lot of them now have enough top end and proper gearing to be in the low 11's and 10's.


They have about 700-800hp, 1000+ft lbs of torque.

I launched with anti-lag under pressure and the truck jumped like I was standing still.

My brothers friend has a brand new Dodge dually. The truck weighs 10,000lbs + and is absouletly scary to ride in. There is a guy in our area that has a dodge that will run the 1/4 in the high 9's!

Can someone say 914-conversion?
Mark D.

What is that car at 1:33 - it seems to haul some serious ass.
Modern diesel trucks are fun - my silly barely modified F-350 (2002 7.3 turbo) is flat out stupid. 3 wheel drive (no lsd on the front diff) launches are insane - some fool with an SS 454 pig wanted to race me on the way home a while ago. Flip switch to 4 wheel high and mash brake and go pedal as hard as possible and ZOOM - 8000 pounds of truck leaps to about 50 MPH (in a 50 zone) Flat out silly and I almost never do that as I like getting 20+ MPG.
Steve

I have this weird mental picture of a 914 body deformed into a corkscrew shape by the massive torque.

I watched an episode of Pass Time on Speed TV where they had one of those modified Dodge diesel pickups make a pass and I was blown away by how fast it was but it was belching black smoke the whole way.

BLACK SMOKE = POWER

Watching that video, which is pretty cool, it is clear that if you had another 100 ft, you would have caught up to him. The intial launch is what he had all over you, but as your 1/4mi speed was 95 and his was 88, it is clear you were catching up REALLY quickly.

Thanks for showing, it is amazing how fast that one dodge was, as well as what appeared to be a TR6 ot TR4. It just shot out of the start. Maybe it has a diesel? LOL

Amazing.

For some reason I was thinking both cars were faster. A 911 non turbo only traps 95ish?

so, technically, you were beat by a Fiat?

maybe if it was MFI it would be better?

j/k huff

MFI, and points that thing will be trapping 120 before you know it.

My MFI 911 is pretty fast.

Shifting the transmission is kinda slow though.

Fast in drag racing usually starts around trapping 115.

I wouldn't drag race the 911... too expensive to fix things that break.

I get the feeling to get a non-turbo 911 or 6 porsche trapping 115+ it takes cash in fairly large piles.


Probably cheaper and easier to make a FWD car that fast.

OK...so he beat you in a straight line. Chalenge him at OUR kind of racing, a road course.....then you two would be tied......

I'm still not putting a turbo on my Acura.

Awww but think about the import tuner hunniez you will have flocking to your type R integra!

Like this!

High schoolers are getting breast tattoos now?

I must be old.

She is 2 years older than me, 29.







A++ would hit.

friends don't let friends get tats in some dude's house

I agree, but in the state of MD most places are not required to have some sanitation equipment. I have a lot of friends who go out of state because they are that paranoid.

I guess PA is the same. I have heard of legit folks working out of their house in a clean room with the proper equipment but eh. I am un inked.


I guess the question is, would the hep be worth the sex?

I'm glad I live in a state that believes in autoclaves then

That is waht it was called! There is something else too my friend was talking about. He has sleeves and most of his legs are done. He is pretty anal about this stuff.

I should point out a few interesting things. First- this was my first and only time on a drag strip. Second- I got a very bad start due to wheel spin and a slipping clutch. third- my car wasn't very clean so the aerodynamics were way off (just kidding). I honestly thought that my times and speeds were pathetic however even with good speeds and times, I would have still been beaten.

FYI- I did mention to them that they should come out to Mid-Ohio Sports Car Coarse and race against my 914 there- they agreed but then they said that after that we would have our final competition at the truck pulls- 2 out of 3 wins. I think my 911 or 914 wouldn't even make it onto the truck pull field.

IRS is not great for drag racing.

There is a reason why solid axle cars dominate. You can make an IRS car do ok, but drag racing is a solid axle RWD domestic car dominated sport for a reason.


It takes way more preparation and thought to get a 911 or FWD/imported car into the 11's/10's/9's than anythign domestic.


You can just go buy a 2001 Z28 LS1 car, intake manifold, headers, cam, tune, rear end and you are running low 11 second 1/4 miles on a stock block making 420rwhp or so. Add heads and it goes up.

I know a couple of guys who go drag racing with Corvettes, and they do well at it, but to me it's kind of a waste of the IRS. You want bulletproof, you want a solid axle.

To put this in perspective, my first night to drag race the Monte I was beat by a Kia Spectra but something like 2-3 seconds. Went to launch and all I got was smoke and wheel spin.

Was only an 1/8 mi track but I was able to put down an 8.5 second pass in the mid 90s with wheel spin into third and a 1.5 reaction time. Wonder what I could do with decent tires...

Everything has it's purpose - I've never considered drag racing to be included in that on a stock P car, like I've never considered Auto-X in the list of B-Body cars - but they do it (and well sometimes). That said, it's fun.

I've still got Auto-X on my list of things to try.

It is fun making cars do what they should not..


I am actually headed to the track tomorrow in my GTi. Sort of like turd polishing.

back OT, you might be surprised by the truck on the road course as well... I had a bone stock Lightning that I could chew people up with. I had ignition issues with my car when I first moved to CO, and I found out I needed to take a one day instruction class to get on the local tracks here, so I took the pickup out and the teacher to this days remembers it... she was wary of letting me out there in an F150 but I assured her she would "respect the truck" after a few laps

so long story short, she sent me a link on her facebook page to a diesel Dodge on a road course, followed by a guy in an S2000 (who is taking the footage) and he couldn't catch that truck. Sure, it might be driver skill, etc but that truck was haulin'. I don't have access to FB here at work (I am surprised I even get access to this site) but if you have FB, look up Judy Faass - she has Faasst racing school and the link should be on her page.

Side note with the Lightning, I went to a track day at Streets of Willow in SoCal and a bunch of tuner import dudes with their Scoobies and Mitsus saw it and went to the organizer and bitched that they didn't want a truck out there in their way. Organizer knew me, told me, so I went out with them first session and after I passed a few of them, the rest couldn't catch me, every one of them followed when I came in and were all over the truck looking at it and trying to figure out WTF just happened. Only guy that could get away from me was a Mitsu on R tires and I had stock Eagle F1s The trucks in the past few years have been pretty amazing.