Group Buy on LED Headlights, from VintageCarLEDs.com Options

[thomas@vintagecarleds.com]

FWIW, we bought these specifically for OLOA2016 where most of our driving was done at night and they were FANTASTIC. They are also DOT approved.

http://www.ebay.com/bhp/truck-lite-led-headlight

Can you provide the PN of the Truck Lite you bought? There are many to choose from and none are listed as compatible with a 914. Thanks

Truck-Lite's Standard 7" replacement will fit.

Keep in mind this is for ONE Headlight.

https://www.amazon.com/Truck-Lite-27270C-He...p/dp/B007K8AA7I

[rnellums]

I bought the bulb and housing assembly from these guys (VC2800 I think). I believe it is a DOT approved glass housing, and since they are not HID bulbs I'm not sure where the issue is.

Lighting is much improved and they are easily aimed just like conventional bulbs...

[87m491]

That pattern difference looks like more than bulbs to me. Pattern is reflector and lens. Comparable bulbs should have comparable patterns (in the same lamp reflector combo) if not the same intensity/lumens...

This is the type of beam pattern pics I'm after.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/artoflightindustries.com-431-1475390300.1.jpg)

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/d114hh0cykhyb0.cloudfront.net-431-1475390391.1.jpg)

[Mikey914]

The LED has a more broad spectrum (AKA natural light) look. However, it sure looks like the halogen example has the lights miss aligned judging from where the center of the light is.

[Chris914n6]

Our replacement VC4000 bulbs (if you check the photos on the website) the CSP LED's are laid out inside the bulb at the same focal point as the old H4 Halogen filaments.

I could take some comparison photos tonight of our VC4000 LED compared to a H4 Halogen for yall.

It's pretty spot on.

BS. The halogen filament is at 0 on the focal axis. The LEDs are offset by 1/8" to the side. The filament outputs 360 degrees, LEDs about 270. There is no hard line answer for a good beam pattern, but LED bulbs in Halogen reflectors changes the engineered pattern and that is important to all drivers on the road.

Post pics and include the brand of housing used.

[thomas@vintagecarleds.com]

Our replacement VC4000 bulbs (if you check the photos on the website) the CSP LED's are laid out inside the bulb at the same focal point as the old H4 Halogen filaments.

I could take some comparison photos tonight of our VC4000 LED compared to a H4 Halogen for yall.

It's pretty spot on.

BS. The halogen filament is at 0 on the focal axis. The LEDs are offset by 1/8" to the side. The filament outputs 360 degrees, LEDs about 270. There is no hard line answer for a good beam pattern, but LED bulbs in Halogen reflectors changes the engineered pattern and that is important to all drivers on the road.

Post pics and include the brand of housing used.

A halogen filament is not at 0 on the focal axis. I will post photos tonight showing how they are slightly offset.

Yes, Filament is at 360 degrees except for the low beam which has a metal shield below it in a halogen bulb (will post photos, or look at yours.)

Yes the leds are not 100% 360 as you have to have a heatsink in the middle. However they still work fantastic in a good quality H4 lens.

Thanks- Thomas

[t collins]

I ordered a set today, my thanks to db9146 and Thomas at Vintagecarled.

[thomas@vintagecarleds.com]

Just for a quick comparison, Here is a Vanagon user (I dont have any 914 photos) of the before/after beam compairison.

Also, keep in mind he is using our VC3500 kit.

If a 914 guy is able to send me some before/after photos I would love to put that on our website!

Source:
Vanagon Geek

(I think his high beams are on? Not sure, he didn't specify)

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/3.bp.blogspot.com-20065-1475586650.1.JPG)

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/4.bp.blogspot.com-20065-1475586650.2.JPG)

[thomas@vintagecarleds.com]

Working on sizing the images down right now, they were WAY too large.

[Wyvern]

I am just about ready to do this swap .... BUT would really like to use new screws and adjusters any insight on who has those . ?

[thomas@vintagecarleds.com]

I am just about ready to do this swap .... BUT would really like to use new screws and adjusters any insight on who has those . ?

Would these help?

http://www.sierramadrecollection.com/914-9...-76-p29912.html

http://www.sierramadrecollection.com/914-9...eadlights-c461/

[Chris914n6]

Actually a pizza box, or better poster board, in front of the light would tell me alot. I've experimented that much.

If you do before and after you have to adjust the settings on the camera to fixed.

[thomas@vintagecarleds.com]

Actually a pizza box, or better poster board, in front of the light would tell me alot. I've experimented that much.

If you do before and after you have to adjust the settings on the camera to fixed.

If I freeze the light settings on my camera, and then take a photo of:

Halogen bulb in our lens, and then our LED bulb in the same lens, at the same distance on the same wall, Would that work?

[Chris914n6]

For $150 I would expect you would have already done comparisons and have the proof in pics that they are indeed an improvement other than you say so. I've done days of research on upgrades and I don't even sell anything.

I also understand geometry enough to know that when the source of light is moved in a reflector the output changes. Plenty of YouTube vids that show LED bulbs actually decrease safety.

[thomas@vintagecarleds.com]

For $150 I would expect you would have already done comparisons and have the proof in pics that they are indeed an improvement other than you say so. I've done days of research on upgrades and I don't even sell anything.

I also understand geometry enough to know that when the source of light is moved in a reflector the output changes. Plenty of YouTube vids that show LED bulbs actually decrease safety.

Well, All I can tell you is to try them out, or check out our feedback on several other sites. (It's all positive, everyone reports a fantastic improvement)

I should have some free time this weekend to take before/after photos (even though a prior post from a Vanagon has them, but those are customer submitted)

It looks like our lights are not for you, so I will let the other various 914world people who purchased their kits speak for themselves on this thread.

Here are various threads about our LEDs:

I would like to mention the Orange VW thing (from thesamba thread) used a very early design of our LED units the "VC2500" which we have phased out due to the "spotlight" pattern.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic...=vintagecarleds

http://turbobricks.com/forums/showthread.p...3403&page=3

http://vanagongeek.blogspot.com/2016/10/he...ed-upgrade.html

[Mblizzard]

For $150 I would expect you would have already done comparisons and have the proof in pics that they are indeed an improvement other than you say so. I've done days of research on upgrades and I don't even sell anything.

I also understand geometry enough to know that when the source of light is moved in a reflector the output changes. Plenty of YouTube vids that show LED bulbs actually decrease safety.

Well, All I can tell you is to try them out, or check out our feedback on several other sites. (It's all positive, everyone reports a fantastic improvement)

I should have some free time this weekend to take before/after photos (even though a prior post from a Vanagon has them, but those are customer submitted)

It looks like our lights are not for you, so I will let the other various 914world people who purchased their kits speak for themselves on this thread.

Here are various threads about our LEDs:

I would like to mention the Orange VW thing (from thesamba thread) used a very early design of our LED units the "VC2500" which we have phased out due to the "spotlight" pattern.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic...=vintagecarleds

http://turbobricks.com/forums/showthread.p...3403&page=3

http://vanagongeek.blogspot.com/2016/10/he...ed-upgrade.html

I am sure there are a number of vids that show doing things wrong, with mismatched components, and improper aiming can lead to decreased safety. But I just don't get the impression that what is being presented here.

I placed a set of cheap HIDs into standard H4 reflectors and knew it was wrong when I hit the switch. The HIDs went into the trash. I have seen people with light systems that fail to understand that the brightest light is not the best. Power is nothing without control.

All that I can see here and on the site seems to be a light system that is well matched, controlled, and unlikely to decrease safety.

[Bartlett 914]

Can you tell which one is LED?

There is something missing in my purchase.

the buyers remorse is missing LOL

[tomeric914]

These http://www.ebay.com/itm/Truck-Lite-27270C-...K-/282167057248

[pbanders]

I'm using these instead of the Truck-Lites

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019I0UBLU/

As far as I can tell, they're identical and about half the price. $66 ea.

I'm using these for fog/driving lights.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NAR0S20/

$14 for a pair and fit into the early fog grilles perfectly.

It's extremely important to aim them correctly. There are many generic guides out there (google), and the factory workshop manual has a procedure (about the same as the others I've seen). Mine were crappy until properly aimed, and now they're great.

If you convert all of your lights over to LED, you cut the current draw so much that the parasitic drag on the alternator is all but eliminated, and the car idles without bogging when you turn on the lights.

[bandjoey]

"Thank you for contacting Hagerty. If the only change to the vehicle is to the headlights, it would not have an effect on your insurance. Should you get in an accident, we would replace the headlights with LED headlights instead. If you are making any other modifications to the vehicle such as body or performance modifications, we would have to update your policy to reflect that so that in a claims situation we have the information on file with what was changed. "

Hagerty the is Ok with adding LEDs per my email. Fyi