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> Front Oil Cooler install., a few days of work....
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post Sep 3 2005, 09:59 AM
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i'm surprised you're not going with the fancy, finned, oil lines that Elephant sells, that run through the pass side sill supports. that way, your slow to warm up engine will take even longer. ya kill me kid!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif)

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post Sep 3 2005, 10:02 AM
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another dumb ?. how the hell do you purge all oil out of the system when it's time for a change? any idea what the total capacity will be?

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post Sep 3 2005, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE (rhodyguy @ Sep 3 2005, 09:02 AM)
another dumb ?. how the hell do you purge all oil out of the system when it's time for a change? any idea what the total capacity will be?

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You don't, unless you blow the engine..........

/6 race car with front mounted cooler was ~ 13 quarts
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post Sep 3 2005, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE (rhodyguy @ Sep 3 2005, 08:59 AM)
i'm surprised you're not going with the fancy, finned, oil lines that Elephant sells, that run through the pass side sill supports. that way, your slow to warm up engine will take even longer. ya kill me kid!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif)

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kid? its got a thermostat. so warm ups will be the same (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/flipa.gif)

Oil cycles all the time, you dont purge it unless you want to.

and... guessing 4 more quarts....
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post Sep 3 2005, 10:26 AM
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wouldn't that be the fan thermostat? i was refering to the non-existant one for the cooling flaps. over half a box of oil when it's time for a change, nice. i hope you're going with the real exspensive stuff. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/bootyshake.gif)

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post Sep 3 2005, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE (rhodyguy @ Sep 3 2005, 09:26 AM)
wouldn't that be the fan thermostat? i was refering to the non-existant one for the cooling flaps. over half a box of oil when it's time for a change, nice. i hope you're going with the real exspensive stuff. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/bootyshake.gif)

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no silly fan thermostat. but your extra cold oil point is moot. 5% of the oil is always circualting through the cooler. at 180 deg, 100 percent is going to the cooler....

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post Sep 3 2005, 08:24 PM
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DAY 2 Delete boxed sill support and fab a gusset to replace it
Purpose: to allow the lines to clear the rocker panels.

check out this fab skill (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
the gusset
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In place, now double wall gussets eliminating boxed section that prohibited lines from running.
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Now drill 2 x 1 1/8 holes in each sill support to run lines.

Also moved spare tire mount to firewall to enable shroud mounting......
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RTV'd grommets in all openings, ready to run lines tomorrow (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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post Sep 3 2005, 10:43 PM
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post Sep 4 2005, 07:02 AM
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5. swear swear curse curse and get red fitting over braided end.

I use a Gould pipe vise (pictured) with cutting guide for cutting hose; a sharp 32-TPI hack saw blade goes through in a few strokes. use a couple of turns of racer's tape in the area of the cut; mark the tape. the pipe vise is small enough to go into the track box.

it's usually easier to put the red fitting over the hose before you cut it.

SLITS is definitely right; grip the fitting in "soft" (aluminum or brass) vise jaws, push on the hose. the rest of his tips are spot-on too.

there's an illustrated guide on the Earl's site.


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post Sep 4 2005, 09:17 PM
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DAY 3....ALMOST DONE

fitted thermostat sandwich plate. ran lines. mounted cooler.
a few hours away from being done....

step 1-
notch engine bar to utilize oil filter. removing heater stuffs made this easy...
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another look.
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custom grommet material (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)
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more fuel lime grommetry (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)
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again.... works good on square openings
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more pics in a few minutes...
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post Sep 4 2005, 09:33 PM
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almost done.

oil lines are almost done.
padded 1" hose clamps.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

2 hoses come together at the long, through a union,... so you could drain the lines if needed....
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post Sep 4 2005, 11:52 PM
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Looks great Aaron!

Should have run the lines down opposite sides through the rocker holes... That's what they're there for.
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post Sep 5 2005, 09:37 AM
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Looks great Aaron!

Should have run the lines down opposite sides through the rocker holes... That's what they're there for.

wrong - lines are 1" diameter, holes in rockers are 3/4- do you see any sill supports here? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

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post Sep 5 2005, 10:34 AM
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Good job. Glad to see you take this on.

I'm still lagging behind in the oil cooling dept. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif)

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post Sep 5 2005, 10:38 AM
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If I want to drain my lines I just pull both ends off the sandwitch adapter and fire up the air compressor. Put one line in a catch can, stick the blower in the other line...presto drained lines!!!

Otherwise looks good...

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post Sep 5 2005, 04:21 PM
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the great thing about external coolers is the number of new places to spring leaks... That extra 3-4 quarts will defiantly come in handy in your cone-bashing exercises. Finish up and suck a few after the test drive. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/clap.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/clap.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/clap.gif) (oh god! did I just give AAron the clap?!!!)
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post Sep 6 2005, 07:09 PM
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all done except the shroud....

thanks to herb meeder (hmeeder) for the mounting tip.
tie into front a arm protector bolt holes...

the mount (1/8 x 2 x 27 AL bar)
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The rubber isolators (4)
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cooler on rubber isolators
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mocked up. bolted in
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close up.
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top view
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line mockup
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another view
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sideview
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lines will be well hidden by passenger foam foot rest.
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side of the ride
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on to shroud design (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

got about 3 qts in the cooler and the lines, im sure they arent full yet....
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post Sep 6 2005, 07:15 PM
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Your my Hero..



Crap.. did I say Aaron was my HERO?

I apologize to the club..... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)

Good job bro...

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post Sep 6 2005, 07:18 PM
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Nice job AAron...
Where does the microwave go??? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif)
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post Sep 11 2005, 06:28 PM
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richard, i gots me a 78mm scat crank....

gonna go BIG like yours... soon. think like next summer soon (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

laying the groundwork for a big motor (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Aaron, how about info on that Scat crank, what journal size, and what have you decided on for Piston & Cylinders? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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