Fan cooled remote oil cooler, Thermo switch or not |
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Fan cooled remote oil cooler, Thermo switch or not |
zx-niner |
Jun 7 2011, 07:11 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 294 Joined: 13-June 05 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 4,269 Region Association: Central California |
I'm in the process of converting my remote oil cooler to fan cooled. After thinking about the wiring with a thermo-switch on the cooler outlet, I asked myself "Why" since I have an oil-bypass thermostat after the oil filter. What's wrong with wiring the fan to run all the time, allowing the by-pass thermostat to control oil temperature?
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VaccaRabite |
Jun 7 2011, 08:48 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,456 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Longer warmup for the oil. The thermostats usually all have oil moving to keep the cooler filled. Otherwise you could suddenly have low to no pressure as it filled.
Zach |
SLITS |
Jun 7 2011, 09:26 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
I run a thermostat controlled fan on my six ... kicks the fan at 185.
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tradisrad |
Jun 8 2011, 08:34 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 985 Joined: 11-September 06 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 6,815 Region Association: Northern California |
Steve,
I run a thermo swith with my fan and the fan comes on just above 180. I also added an LED to my temp gague that indicates when the fan is on. I could have placed the light a little higher; the needle clears the light in the event I get that hot. |
914 shifter |
Jun 8 2011, 11:59 AM
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airhead Group: Members Posts: 266 Joined: 28-August 10 From: ny/nj Member No.: 12,111 Region Association: North East States |
did you guys go with the sandwich adapter or full flow/remote setup ? is your stock cooler still part of your oiling system ? how is your oil pressure at high rpm ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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Valy |
Jun 8 2011, 01:17 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,677 Joined: 6-April 10 From: Sunnyvale, CA Member No.: 11,573 Region Association: Northern California |
Steve, I run a thermo swith with my fan and the fan comes on just above 180. I also added an LED to my temp gague that indicates when the fan is on. I could have placed the light a little higher; the needle clears the light in the event I get that hot. I would do something about that low voltage!! ~11V |
tradisrad |
Jun 8 2011, 01:24 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 985 Joined: 11-September 06 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 6,815 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE I would do something about that low voltage!! ~11V in the picture the car is not running and my optima was dying (internal short).With a new battery (warranty replacement), altenator and voltage regulator I now have much better voltage 13+ under load. 914shifter, check this thread. I used a sandwich adapter that has an inclusive t-stat. |
Joe Owensby |
Jun 8 2011, 04:01 PM
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JoeO Group: Members Posts: 527 Joined: 7-January 06 From: Spartanburg, SC Member No.: 5,385 Region Association: South East States |
I used the sandwich adapter that has an internal thermostat. Keeps oil from going to the cooler when engine is cold. I have a Mocal fan that I allow to run all the time in the summer. During winter months, I just disconnect the fan, since there is no need to run it. I had good intentions of installing a thermostat control for the fan, but just haven't gotten around to doing it for the last 2 years. JoeO
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VaccaRabite |
Jun 8 2011, 09:00 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,456 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
By the way, one of the best oil cooler threads on world is located here:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=108328 if your thinking of doing this, its a good place to start looking. Zach |
zx-niner |
Jun 8 2011, 10:15 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 294 Joined: 13-June 05 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 4,269 Region Association: Central California |
I already have a remote oil cooler installed, I'm just upgrading from the natural convection to forced air. I've seen temperatures getting a bit higher than I want during normal driving. I like Joe's way, much simpler. The remote thermostat already by-passes to get heat into the oil, and I'm less worried about oil being too cold here in California than about it getting to hot.
What's in there now: For those that asked, this is a full-flow system, no sandwich adapter. I still have the stock oil cooler, too. |
McMark |
Jun 8 2011, 11:35 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Functionally, you don't need it. The cooler won't be cooling the oil until the thermostat opens (technically it closes, but that's a different subject).
I like installing them for nit-picky reasons such as hearing a loud fan before the engine starts and having the fan running when you turn on the key to do anything. I probably run into this more than the driver of the car since I turn the key on more frequently for troubleshooting. This is the one that I've used in the past. It's adjustable, it's got a relay, it's got a fuse, and it's only $50. |
JmuRiz |
Jun 9 2011, 11:02 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,433 Joined: 30-December 02 From: NoVA Member No.: 50 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I already have a remote oil cooler installed, I'm just upgrading from the natural convection to forced air. I've seen temperatures getting a bit higher than I want during normal driving. I like Joe's way, much simpler. The remote thermostat already by-passes to get heat into the oil, and I'm less worried about oil being too cold here in California than about it getting to hot. What's in there now: For those that asked, this is a full-flow system, no sandwich adapter. I still have the stock oil cooler, too. I can't give a good answer on how/what's the best thermo-controlled fan (since mine is just an on-off switch in my cabin) but I have to say that's one GREAT looking motor. What are the specs, looks very trick with full-flow and the tangerine headers. |
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