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What tools are a "must have", Just starting my collection |
stags14 |
Mar 21 2005, 10:16 AM
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Meep Meep Meep Meep Meep!!! Group: Members Posts: 84 Joined: 24-February 05 From: Amherst, NY Member No.: 3,653 |
I am just starting my tool collection and want to hear what tools you think are a must have for a newbie like myself that wants to work on his 914...
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boxstr |
Mar 21 2005, 10:24 AM
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MEMBER:PACIFIC NORTHWEST REGION Group: Members Posts: 7,522 Joined: 25-December 02 From: OREGON Member No.: 12 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
MASTER card"priceless". Rust scraper,can of liquid wrench. Actually the big box stores sell complete tool sets usually with a box for a reasonable amount. Sears is always good with there return policy. I also think you can try craigslist for guys selling tools, especially Snap On tools. Which new are more money than you want to know about right now.
I recently purchased a complete rollaround box full of quality tools from a divorce sale. I just hope that when the husband gets out of jail he doesnt come looking for me (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) . CCLINTOOLTIME |
Brando |
Mar 21 2005, 11:10 AM
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BUY MY SPARE KIDNEY!!! Group: Members Posts: 3,935 Joined: 29-August 04 From: Santa Ana, CA Member No.: 2,648 Region Association: Southern California |
Types of tools that are essential:
...what's in your toolbox? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif) |
mike_the_man |
Mar 21 2005, 11:14 AM
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I like stuff! Group: Members Posts: 1,338 Joined: 11-June 03 From: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada Member No.: 809 |
A 10mm and a 13mm wrench. Everything is 10mm or 13mm on these cars. And lots of penetrating oil! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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lapuwali |
Mar 21 2005, 11:24 AM
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Not another one! Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743 |
A complete set of GOOD combo wrenches (open on one end, box on the other). You'll be using these ALL the time, so don't stint. Craftsman is adequate, but buy better if you can. The cheap $20 Harbor Freight sets are useful for an in the car emergency kit (less painful if stolen or lost), but that's about it. Buy an extra 10mm and 13mm wrench, as you'll use these two a great deal, and you'll often need two at once (locknuts).
1/4", 3/8", and 1/2" rachets. 1/2" breaker bar. 1/4" sockets from 4mm to about 10mm. 3/8" sockets from about 8mm to 19mm. Same set, but in deep well. 1/2" sockets from 13mm to 24mm. 1/2" torque wrench (ft/lbs). Short and long extensions in all sizes. Needle-nosed pliers and diagnoal wire cutters. One big-assed cheap flatblade screwdriver (for applying leverage), plus two others in medium sizes. Two Philips in the medium sizes (there is more than one size and shape of point). A VW CV Joint tool (look in Bug places). Soft-blow hammer/rubber mallet. Ball-peen hammer. Vice-Grips. Handheld shop light. I prefer flourescent (doesn't get as hot). One good floor jack and a pair of jackstands. IMHO, Craftsman's smaller floor jacks are crap right now, but the bigger Harbor Freight units (like 3 ton) are a pretty good value. A pair of ramps may be preferred (and aren't usually expensive) if you need to get under the car, but don't need to remove a wheel. This should cover the majority of tasks you'll need to do. One of the big "mechanic's tools" sets from Sears, et al, will have most of these, and aren't a bad place to start if you have nothing at all. Things that are nice to have: stubby screwdrivers (flat and Philips). Offset box-end wrenches (often have different sizes at each end, and a 10-11mm and a 12/13mm or 13/14mm will be the most useful) can make certain jobs much easier. You'll eventually start to buy tools in ones and twos as you need them for specialized jobs. Things like big sockets (axle nuts), a second pair of jackstands, scrapers, punches, etc. The above list will be the tools you use 90% of the time, however. |
rhodyguy |
Mar 21 2005, 11:33 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,084 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
minimum 2 sets of jackstands (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) . a box of disposeable latex gloves. does western ny have costco yet? big tool sets at good prices. PBblaster and Aerokroil, penetrants. cv joint bolt tool. a compressor is desireable and some air tools if you have the coin. i've used my mine more recently than i ever have in the past.
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dinomium |
Mar 21 2005, 11:37 AM
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Git on a chair son, all the good stuff is goin over yer head! Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,777 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Bremerton, WA Member No.: 74 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
these are all great suggestions. Mine would be to buy polished tools when ever possible. Our cars tend to be VERY dirty and after a short time, the non polished tools just wont come clean anymore. So every time you grab a 10 or 13mm you hand will be greasy. Then your nice Momo steering wheel gets greasy and the telephone and the fridge door then you are in TROUBLE!
I really like the Sears polished combo wrenches. They are fully pollished and are longer than the standard. They are also a good value. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sawzall-smiley.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/welder.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif) |
skline |
Mar 21 2005, 11:40 AM
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Born to Drive Group: Members Posts: 7,910 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Costa Mesa, CA Member No.: 17 Region Association: Southern California |
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mightyohm |
Mar 21 2005, 11:52 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,277 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Seattle, WA Member No.: 162 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I would buy one of the Sears tool sets in the ~$100 range. You will get all the major sockets in 6 and 12 point varities with 1/2, 3/8, and 1/4" drive. This is a great starter and served me well for quite a while until I started to do more major work.
Then I would buy a nice set of metric combination wrenches, don't get the 5 piece sets, get the ones that cover a wide variety of sizes, from 7mm all the way up to at least 19mm, but even up to 24 or 27mm is useful. Also you will need a good set of screwdrivers in various sizes. Stuff you will also need sooner or later: A set of metric allen keys, I like the 90 degree bend kind, not the tee handle kind. Extensions for 1/4, 3/8, and 1/2" if your Sears set doesn't come with a good range of them. A breaker bar, 1/2" drive, a couple feet long. Vice grips. I would buy the first big set from Sears but a lot of the other stuff can be bought from Harbor Freight for pretty cheap. It depends on how much you intend to use it, for someone starting out you don't want to spend a lot on tools you will never use. |
rhodyguy |
Mar 21 2005, 12:04 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,084 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
major. a timing light with the adj advance feature. dwell/ohm/continuity/meter. a haynes manual for the garage and the attractive lash manual you can read in the living room, and not get the look when you carry your greasy, dog eared, 10 year old haynes into the house.
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McMark |
Mar 21 2005, 12:11 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
My two most necessary tools, the serrated/triple square/12 point 8mm socket for the axles and a set of GearWrenches (ratcheting box end). I prefer the double box end gear wrenches because you should already have a set of standard open end/box end wrenches and who needs a duplicate set of open end wrenches? Plus the double box end are cheaper. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)
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stags14 |
Mar 21 2005, 02:44 PM
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Meep Meep Meep Meep Meep!!! Group: Members Posts: 84 Joined: 24-February 05 From: Amherst, NY Member No.: 3,653 |
Would you recommend an oil-free compressor? Sears has a 33 gallon oil-free on sale for $300.00... |
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lapuwali |
Mar 21 2005, 02:53 PM
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Not another one! Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743 |
Oil-less are seriously noisy. I'd push the compressor pretty far down the "must have" list, unless you're planning on painting. Go electric for grinders/cutters/sanders, and get a small compressor for impact tools, blowing out stuff, and filling tires. OR, wait awhile and spend the bucks on a big compressor (like 10cfm @ 90psi minimum) that's reasonably quiet, which will be enough to run sanders and such. |
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rhodyguy |
Mar 21 2005, 02:58 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,084 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
as i understand it... the demands you will put on a compressor is something to consider. mine is rated at 7.5 square cubic feet per minute @ 40psi and 5.0 sqfpm @ 90psi. some tools have different requirements. eg: i have a die grinder that requires 3 sqfpm at 90psi. so you have to look on the tool for lower air needed to run it. the duty cycle is shorter than i would prefer and i have to let the compressor catch up often. i bought mine for running nail guns and the like, so it is a portable style. i just put a couple of drops of pneumatic tool oil in the tools before i use them.
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mightyohm |
Mar 21 2005, 03:28 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,277 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Seattle, WA Member No.: 162 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I would buy things like torque wrenches etc way before a compressor. You don't really need a compressor for most tasks but it can make life easier.
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7391420 |
Mar 21 2005, 03:31 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 353 Joined: 6-August 03 From: boston, ma Member No.: 988 |
I'd add,
-a set of flare end wrenches, these are great for brake lines, or similar where you need to have an open end but also need as close to a closed end as possible. -por 15-for sure!! -a package of zip ties in various sizes |
Always Looking |
Mar 21 2005, 03:45 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 194 Joined: 9-December 04 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 3,246 |
In addition to my polished wrenches (Home depot brand - smooth and long), I use my universal joint 3/8 drive socket all the time - I bought a craftsman for the return policy.
I'm considering a compressor now, but am not sure i need/want it considering the cost. I "might" do my own paint and body, but am still trying to figure out if spending the dough on the compressor and tools would be worth it verses having someone else do the work and paying them. I fugure I'd be into the tools for $400 plus chemicals and lots of time. Still no guarentee i'd do the work. On the other hand, pay someone who knows what the're doing and have it done quick.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif) |
TimT |
Mar 21 2005, 04:07 PM
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retired Group: Members Posts: 4,033 Joined: 18-February 03 From: Wantagh, NY Member No.: 313 |
How come no one has mentioned a Sawzall?
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Rusty |
Mar 21 2005, 04:17 PM
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Wanted: Engine case GA003709 Group: Admin Posts: 7,941 Joined: 24-December 02 From: North Alabama Member No.: 6 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
There are some good suggestions here. Only buy quality tools. The first time you have to stop a job at 8pm on a Saturday night to replace a broken ElCrapo brand tool from Taiwan - you'll understand. And on the off-chance that you do break one, the lifetime warranties come in handy.
If you're looking at wrenches and sockets... get 6 point tools first, because they're less likely to round off bolts. - Get extra 19mm, 13mm and 10mm wrenches and sockets. It's not that you'll necessarily use them, but sometimes you want leverage on both sides. - 17mm allen wrench - to check gear oil. - Timing light and dwell meter. - Jackstands are a must for safety. Torches, mig welders, air compressors, impact wrenches are all reallllly nice to have, but aren't on the "beginning tool box" list. -Rusty (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smoke.gif) |
jwalters |
Mar 21 2005, 04:27 PM
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Sooo Close....... Group: Members Posts: 1,677 Joined: 14-May 04 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 2,068 Region Association: Europe |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) When the snapon man shows up--just buy the whole truck--you'll be better off!!!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)
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