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gfrewin
post Mar 10 2021, 08:33 PM
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So looking for peoples thoughts... I have a 72 and it’s in decent shape. Interior is good, engine, transmission are professionally rebuilt and perfect.
I know the hell hole is good, the body is decent (I’ve had it to bare metal front to behind the doors). Here’s what I know:
The door jambs are rusted out, I’ve found a couple crunchy spots on the floor, longs seem solid but have been patched, rear trunk corners are crunchy.
I have no idea of the condition of what’s underneath as I haven’t removed body panels.

I drive it 2-3 thousand miles each year and I have no intention of entering it in concourse competitions.
I’m still learning how to weld but I’m a decent novice. To the people that have worked on these cars a ton, is it worth taking off the road for a few years and putting it on a rotisserie or should I just patch as needed over the winters?
Any advice would be helpful,
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post Mar 10 2021, 08:59 PM
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If you check out my build thread, you will see my bias.

You have to decide if you have the time to spend doing a major restoration, and if you enjoy the amount and variety of work required. It will mean months (years?) of 914 fun that includes body and mechanical work instead of driving.
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post Mar 10 2021, 09:24 PM
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Its a slippery slope.
I have regrets from both choices.
Hindsight I would probably prefer to regret driving the car more.
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post Mar 10 2021, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE(bkrantz @ Mar 10 2021, 09:59 PM) *

If you check out my build thread, you will see my bias.

You have to decide if you have the time to spend doing a major restoration, and if you enjoy the amount and variety of work required. It will mean months (years?) of 914 fun that includes body and mechanical work instead of driving.


Holy crap! You’ve done amazing work there. With my skills and young son I think it would take me 10 years to get to your level.
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post Mar 10 2021, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE(BK911 @ Mar 10 2021, 10:24 PM) *

Its a slippery slope.
I have regrets from both choices.
Hindsight I would probably prefer to regret driving the car more.


I think that’s where I’m leaning too. Did you work on 2 cars or same car twice?
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post Mar 10 2021, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE(bkrantz @ Mar 10 2021, 09:59 PM) *

If you check out my build thread, you will see my bias.

You have to decide if you have the time to spend doing a major restoration, and if you enjoy the amount and variety of work required. It will mean months (years?) of 914 fun that includes body and mechanical work instead of driving.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) . All in for doing the metal work yourself and learning at the same time. Super rewarding and a huge cost savings, but it comes at a big expense of life on jack stands. Be prepared for the journey.
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post Mar 10 2021, 10:36 PM
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I daily drove a 914 for nearly a decade that many on here would have taken off the road due to rust issues. Never regretted that decision. As I had time, I worked on suspension, brakes, interior and drivetrain. A year ago I took it off the road to begin the rust/bodywork over the next couple years. Of course, it helps that I have another 914 to drive (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Mar 11 2021, 06:06 AM
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Restoration of our beloved 914 rust buckets can be very satisfying, time consuming, expensive. Usually depends on your motivation and drive. Best of luck whichever route you take
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post Mar 11 2021, 06:27 AM
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This all depends on you. What do you want? This 914world has tons of info any direction you choose. Did you say that there was rust at the back of the passengers door jam?
Drive it.....
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post Mar 11 2021, 07:46 AM
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Here's my overly simplistic view.

Structural problems: Fully restore.
Cosmetic issues: Patch.
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post Mar 11 2021, 01:40 PM
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Can't believe this hasn't been posted, but it needs to be done (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thisthreadisworthlesswithoutpics.gif)
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post Mar 11 2021, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(bbrock @ Mar 11 2021, 02:40 PM) *

Can't believe this hasn't been posted, but it needs to be done (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thisthreadisworthlesswithoutpics.gif)


Ha ha ha! So true, I tried to upload them and got errors. Will try again tonight.
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post Mar 11 2021, 04:11 PM
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post Mar 11 2021, 08:31 PM
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Obviously you should buy a second 914 to drive while you restore this one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Mar 11 2021, 08:41 PM
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Obviously you should buy a second 914 to drive while you restore this one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Plus a parts car to supply bits to the other two. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Mar 11 2021, 08:44 PM
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gfrewin, you have a good looking car. The door jams are worrying, and you need to peel some of the tar stuff from the floor to see about rust extent.
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post Mar 11 2021, 08:56 PM
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QUOTE(BENBRO02 @ Mar 11 2021, 09:31 PM) *

Obviously you should buy a second 914 to drive while you restore this one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Ha ha ha! I told my wife that idea last night and she didn’t think it was such a good idea. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Mar 11 2021, 09:01 PM
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QUOTE(bkrantz @ Mar 11 2021, 09:44 PM) *

gfrewin, you have a good looking car. The door jams are worrying, and you need to peel some of the tar stuff from the floor to see about rust extent.


Thanks, I’ve done a fair amount to it mechanically, interior and fixing up paint etc without too much welding.

I’m worried about the jambs too but luckily I live about a 30 minute drive from Restoration Design so I can get those parts easily. Seeing what you’ve done I may be knocking on your door for advice when I get into things!
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post Mar 11 2021, 09:15 PM
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QUOTE(gfrewin @ Mar 11 2021, 06:56 PM) *

QUOTE(BENBRO02 @ Mar 11 2021, 09:31 PM) *

Obviously you should buy a second 914 to drive while you restore this one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Ha ha ha! I told my wife that idea last night and she didn’t think it was such a good idea. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) while restoring ours we drove a 73 1.7 all stock with rust in the usual places, but mechanically sound. we drive it to SFO down 1 and 101, turns out to be my wife’s favorite car.
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post Mar 12 2021, 07:29 AM
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QUOTE(gfrewin @ Mar 11 2021, 10:01 PM) *


I’m worried about the jambs . . .


IMHO that is the least of your worries. Longs clearly have been worked on and appear to have patches with rivets and/or fiberglass matting on them from photos.

My 1st bit of advice is to carefully understand what was done with that seat belt anchor point. It looks like it may be been done with at at least two layers of sheetmetal (one in the long) and the other replacing the lower long corner. That could be a good thing.

Bottom line, your life may someday depend on the integrity of that seat belt attachment. I'd want to know more about how it was fixed.
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