Air Flow Through Front Holes, The ones behind the bumper. |
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Air Flow Through Front Holes, The ones behind the bumper. |
McMark |
Aug 17 2005, 10:19 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
I just bought myself a little handheld anemometer. I took out one of the plastic plugs behind the bumper and duct taped the meter into place in the front trunk. Went for a little drive. Here's what I found...
At 40 MPH, I was getting a wind speed of 17.5 mph in the hole. Converted to CFM, this is 25.718 CFM. Not bad for one little hole. The bumper was still in place and the LE airdam was still installed as well. Next I'll test a stock valence. Just sharin. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) Oh, BTW, the air pressure was 4 bft. I don't know what that part means, but there it is. |
Joe Ricard |
Aug 17 2005, 10:24 AM
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CUMONIWANNARACEU Group: Members Posts: 6,811 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Gautier, MS Member No.: 92 |
So where was the air escaping?
Funny you should mention that, I was just contemplating moving my 2 row cheapy oil cooler up there. Wonder if you pulled the two plugs in the bottom of the trunk and put screen over it or louvers from the bottom side pointing back. |
MoveQik |
Aug 17 2005, 10:25 AM
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What size wheels can I fit? Group: Members Posts: 4,645 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Scottsdale, AZ Member No.: 3,881 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Are you trying to get enough airflow up there without cutting it up for an oil cooler or suh-n?
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SirAndy |
Aug 17 2005, 10:34 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,670 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
if you don't want to cut the tub and depending on how much extra cooling you need, you can just mount the cooler in front/under the bumper.
you'll get less air-flow as on a "through" setup, but for most cars, it should be plenty ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) Andy |
Trekkor |
Aug 17 2005, 10:53 AM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
Is this on the green car?
I'd like to install my oil cooler before the Sept 23rd track day. I'd like to remove ALL the front plugs and make a shroud to vent the air out the bottom. Wanna test that? KT |
Brian Mifsud |
Aug 17 2005, 11:16 AM
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Mechanical Engineer Group: Members Posts: 981 Joined: 3-March 03 From: Penngrove, CA Member No.: 384 Region Association: None |
McMark,
I do alot of airflow measurement for a living. Pressure measurements with the anemometers I've worked with are calibrated in inches or feet of water. 1 atmosphere (14.7psi) will raise a column of water 32feet (in a evacuated tube). Most fans and blowers flow air at pressures WAY under 1 psi (1psi = 26" inches of water), and usually develop pressures rarely over 1" of water. A high quality blower like you have in your furnace at home will push about 2000cfm at about 2" of water to give you an idea of flow. On you CFM calculation, taking the velocity x the area of the hole is usually on optimistic calculation. The actual flow through that hole is most likely at least 30% lower than what you calculate. Generally, measuring pressure rather than velocities will give you a much more accurate number to do calculations with across an opening. Velocity measurements are very directionally sensitive. If you don't happen to have the probe at the perfect angle, you may not be getting the "true" average velocity. Static pressure is a better way to go before and after the opening. |
Joe Ricard |
Aug 17 2005, 11:25 AM
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CUMONIWANNARACEU Group: Members Posts: 6,811 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Gautier, MS Member No.: 92 |
Damn! now my head hurts.
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McMark |
Aug 17 2005, 12:02 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Damn, I'm really starting to hate air flow. Nothing is as it seems. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif)
Isn't the 4 bft a pressure reading? |
McMark |
Aug 17 2005, 12:04 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Yeah, it was on the green car. I'd like to do some testing of your shroud, just to have the numbers in the future for comparison. |
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Aaron Cox |
Aug 17 2005, 02:15 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
im about to install a cooler and fab a shroud.....
trek - what are the dimensions of your cooler? maybe we can buy/make 2 shrouds |
Trekkor |
Aug 17 2005, 04:57 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
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SpecialK |
Aug 17 2005, 08:20 PM
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aircraft surgeon Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,211 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Pacific, MO Member No.: 1,797 |
Nope, it's an airspeed measurement. Bft stands for "Beaufort", some old fart sailor from the 1800's. |
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Aaron Cox |
Aug 17 2005, 10:12 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
im a good ~13" x 5.5 hmmmm |
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