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> Which exhaust would you choose?, Two to choose from
Artfrombama
post May 29 2024, 11:58 PM
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Bought my teener with three exhaust systems. Previous owner installed stainless heat exchangers (thank you) and installed a stock replacement muffler that is in poor condition.
Included in the sale is a single Bursh exhaust and quad Ansen style. Which one has a better exhaust note and the advantages of each. Help me decide. Thanks!Attached Image I
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post May 30 2024, 02:30 AM
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Bursch muffler. That manza 4 tip is heavy.
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post May 30 2024, 03:47 AM
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Bursh is the way to go.
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post May 30 2024, 04:32 AM
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Bursh sounds sooo much better and is also less weight.
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post May 30 2024, 05:15 AM
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post May 30 2024, 08:05 AM
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I would go with the Bursch. You can make it look nicer with some sanding and POR15 Manifold Gray (although you must cure it... to do this I mounted it and drove for a few minutes).

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post May 30 2024, 08:10 AM
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I would install the single-tip all day long. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post May 30 2024, 08:13 AM
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4 into 2 into 1
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post May 30 2024, 08:15 AM
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I'd go Bursch for the facts mentioned above AND...

It blends all 4 cylinders together!

Give you a killer spot for an O2 sensor.

Blending all 4 together makes it sound better IMO!
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post May 30 2024, 08:39 AM
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Sound... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdrpPvhzWHo
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post May 30 2024, 09:54 AM
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No brainer. The Ansa / Monza style is heavy, obnoxiously loud, and often doesn't fit well under the stock valence.
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post May 30 2024, 10:21 AM
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No brainer. The Ansa / Monza style is heavy, obnoxiously loud, and often doesn't fit well under the stock valence.

I had one on my first 914. Loved it then but I would never do it now. It did rust out quickly.
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post May 30 2024, 11:03 AM
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yes certainly the bursch, but my preference these days would be the factory original replacement
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post May 30 2024, 11:56 AM
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Definitely the Bursch!

picture of what a new Bursch 75-76 stainless muffler look like.

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post May 30 2024, 12:02 PM
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I had one one my yellow 73 because the tips went well. Lol

As soon I started exploring better options that sucker was gone.
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post May 30 2024, 03:44 PM
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I put a new Dansk on my 1.7. Single pipe like the original. Very quiet. I bought it from George at AA. Finding a tightly fitting push on chrome tail pipe cover was a PITA. It took several iterations.

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post May 30 2024, 04:11 PM
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@Artfrombama

if you are handy with a welder i have a tip for you.
the stock muffler on a 1.8 is in fact a late bus muffler.
except for one thing.
the inlet flanges on the muffler are welded on upside down compared to a 914 muffler.
all the strange dents formed in the 914 muffler that are visible on the bottom face the other way up on the bus and allow the muffler to fit against the bottom of the fan casting and for the dipstick tube to pass above it. was also on the VW 412. right hand side tailpipe.

if you go to VW parts website you will find that dansk bus muffler is about half the $ of the same thing for a 914. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

you cut those inlet flanges off and weld them back on upside down.

i was real lucky about 25 years ago. i found a stainless bus muffler here in Aus.
not entirely certain whether it was an Aus parts manufacturer who made it or whether its german and originates from the 70s or 80s. but i did the mod on it and i've got an entire stainless system from heat exchangers through to muffler.
it will outlast me and the next owner.

only disadvantage. it sounds tinny and horrible until it warms up. its very funny how the tone changes for the exhaust note from stone cold start up to fully warmed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

otherwise. go for that bursch single outlet system you got for free.
those four tip ansas are over the top and look plain silly.

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post May 30 2024, 04:25 PM
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here is what i am talking about @Artfrombama

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there is also all sorts of weird versions of this late muffler type.
like super quiet ones for 412s that were a bit more restricted internally etc.
but as far as i can determine, the 914 got the bus one. which was i believe less restricted internally.
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post May 30 2024, 06:25 PM
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Keep and restore the Bursch, it's a decent design.
Have your muffler shop add a 2.5" (#f4) flange just after the 4x2x1 merge. Bolt on a 2.25" core magnaflow muffler; then blast and ceramic coat everything. You get a great working/sounding system, not heavy and run a custom (R exit) style valance/ or no valance
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post May 30 2024, 06:28 PM
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If you are handy with a hole saw/ Dremel you can run a (fiberglass) valance creation like this...
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