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Engine Build Question and Report, SS struck again |
azbill |
Nov 4 2005, 06:27 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 455 Joined: 26-July 04 From: Glendale, Az Member No.: 2,403 Region Association: Southwest Region |
As an insurance policy, I am having the engine that I bought from (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/stromberg.gif) Steve Stromburg completely disassembled.
We have found some issues. Excess side play on one of the connecting rods, some of the case bolts missing, over tightened, and some not tightened at all. I don’t think the rods were refurbished. We will be taking them out and throughly go over them. White lithium grease is everywhere. The oil pump was had a fiber gasket and an o-ring seal and the screen was not installed. The heads look good we will be flow testing and cmpletely look them over in detail. There are stainless steel valves - 48mm exhaust with 44 or 45mm intake with heavy duty springs (double springs) and the lifters are ceramic. He used standard adjustment screws. I am wondering if the adjustment screws should be replaced with 911 swivel screw? What are your suggestions? Thank God I took the extra step to open this engine up. It would have been a bigger mess if I had just run it as a “turn key”. To say the least this was one sloppy engine build. Thanks Azbill |
Aaron Cox |
Nov 4 2005, 06:30 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
doubt it has 48mm exhausts... prolly 48 intakes and 38 exhausts (biggest ive seen done)
to go swivel feet you need 1.7 rockers....and machine them. what oil pump did he use? no watch this. pull it and see the TANG that goes into the cam.... is it nearly non existant? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/unsure.gif) take pics. EVIDENCE |
Aaron Cox |
Nov 4 2005, 06:34 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
is the tang filed down WAY too much like this on another SS motor?
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SLITS |
Nov 4 2005, 06:45 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
Bill, Bill, Bill....... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/slap.gif)
I am actually sorry you had to be on the receiving end! |
azbill |
Nov 4 2005, 06:56 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 455 Joined: 26-July 04 From: Glendale, Az Member No.: 2,403 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Aaron
Your right the 48's are the intake - we tried to measure the exhaust and they are 44 or 45. I'll have the look into the oil pump issue - will let you know. I need to relearn to attach pictures. Will do it soon. |
Aaron Cox |
Nov 4 2005, 06:59 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
here is the easiest way to upload multiple pics in a POST
shrink em all to 640x480 or 800x600, and upload them all to your blog. then use
do it for every pic. works great. called Hot-linking from your blog (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) |
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Flat VW |
Nov 4 2005, 07:07 PM
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Illegal Soapbox Derby Racecar Group: Members Posts: 1,692 Joined: 13-November 04 From: Phoenix, AZ Member No.: 3,105 |
Andy photo, if you stare at it long enough you can see Jesus kissing Mary M. John (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/w00t.gif) |
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azbill |
Nov 4 2005, 07:23 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 455 Joined: 26-July 04 From: Glendale, Az Member No.: 2,403 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Here are the pictures.
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azbill |
Nov 4 2005, 07:24 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 455 Joined: 26-July 04 From: Glendale, Az Member No.: 2,403 Region Association: Southwest Region |
One of the heads
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azbill |
Nov 4 2005, 07:25 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 455 Joined: 26-July 04 From: Glendale, Az Member No.: 2,403 Region Association: Southwest Region |
The bottom of the case
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Aaron Cox |
Nov 4 2005, 07:26 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
2056 or 2270??
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azbill |
Nov 4 2005, 07:29 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 455 Joined: 26-July 04 From: Glendale, Az Member No.: 2,403 Region Association: Southwest Region |
2056 with a web 86 cam and Emarld fuel injection
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Twystd1 |
Nov 4 2005, 07:40 PM
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You don't want to know... really..... Group: Members Posts: 2,514 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Newport Beach, California Member No.: 2,743 |
What the FUCH does it take to stop this guy from selling "BUILT" engines?
Steve, if your reading this. Stop doing this to our clan. Your pissing me off. Twystd1 |
Aaron Cox |
Nov 4 2005, 07:41 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif) werd.
when did you guys purchase this? before or after alot of the steve stromberg stuff came to light on this bbs, along with STF, and pelican. if he has no more customers....he wont exist. please spread the word. AA |
azbill |
Nov 4 2005, 07:52 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 455 Joined: 26-July 04 From: Glendale, Az Member No.: 2,403 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I bought the engine after the the stuff hit the fan it was like pulling hens teeth the thing here. I am not going to go into the the long long story. Everything has been said about this guy. Going into the details will just get me more upset and loss a few more nights sleep. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/headbang.gif)
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Jake Raby |
Nov 4 2005, 08:13 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
WOW...
Not suprised the least bit... 48mm valves on the intake with a web 86?? I don't run an intake valve bigger than a 44mm even on a 2700cc engine. Fact is that a 48mm intake and a correct port to match it will outflow the exhaust side no matter what you do without some VERy serious work, thats almost nil on power gain... Those hads undoubtedly have imbalanced I/E ratios and when you flow them I'm SURE you'll see this- I doubt they are a 65% combination. You can make the situation better by running a huge amount of split duration and even some split lift on the exhaust side of the camshaft. So many people ruin heads this way that I even developed a couple of cams especially to make the arrangement work better... I can hook you up with one if you want that will work excellent with those ceramic lifters.... Take that engine 100% apart and scrutenize EVERYTHING.... Leave no stone un turned! Also double check the piston/cylinder clearance as I doubt that the dimensions were adjusted before those coatings were applied and thats a MUST! Sorry to see another statistic, they are abundant lately... At least you were smart and tore it down before it ever fired up! Some people are not that lucky- (its hell when an engine that has never been fired up has to be rebuilt) If you want a list of things that are an absolute must to check, PM me and I'll hook you up... |
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