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valve adjustment, remove HE'S?? |
toon1 |
Jul 7 2006, 04:39 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,849 Joined: 29-October 05 From: tracy,ca Member No.: 5,022 |
I'm going to adjust the valves tomorrow, 1st time with the motor in. Do I need to remove the HE's??
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Cap'n Krusty |
Jul 7 2006, 04:47 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Only if your a 10th degree black belt masochist. Use my vlave adjustment method mentioned in the "Classic Threads".
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=28758 Have fun! The Cap'n |
Aaron Cox |
Jul 7 2006, 04:51 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
have fun!
small hands help |
elwood-914 |
Jul 7 2006, 05:00 PM
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elwood-914 Group: Members Posts: 387 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Plymouth CA Member No.: 38 |
have fun! small hands help You know what they say about small hands.....Aaron (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) |
toon1 |
Jul 7 2006, 05:02 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,849 Joined: 29-October 05 From: tracy,ca Member No.: 5,022 |
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elwood-914 |
Jul 7 2006, 05:09 PM
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elwood-914 Group: Members Posts: 387 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Plymouth CA Member No.: 38 |
Piece of cake. When I am planning a valve adjustment I put it up the night before on the ramps so I do not have to start the engine in the morning. Takes about 20 to 40 minutes depending how much I screw around. Seems awkward at first but you get the hang of it rather quickly. Do the Capt's and there is an article on the Pelican site too.
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toon1 |
Jul 7 2006, 05:26 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,849 Joined: 29-October 05 From: tracy,ca Member No.: 5,022 |
20 to 40 min?? that's pretty quick, seems like it would take longer. I will find out tomorrow
Piece of cake. When I am planning a valve adjustment I put it up the night before on the ramps so I do not have to start the engine in the morning. Takes about 20 to 40 minutes depending how much I screw around. Seems awkward at first but you get the hang of it rather quickly. Do the Capt's and there is an article on the Pelican site too. |
Rand |
Jul 7 2006, 05:27 PM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
Keep some pocket change handy.... A coin is handy up/under there for turning the adjuster in that short space.
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TravisNeff |
Jul 7 2006, 05:30 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Keep some pocket change handy.... A coin is handy up/under there for turning the adjuster in that short space. Neat trick, I will give that a shot next time I do my valves. Even with a stubby driver it is pretty cramped trying to lock down the nut and hold the adjuster at the same time. |
Aaron Cox |
Jul 7 2006, 05:53 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
a penny and an offset sloted screwdriver are your friends...
with a header and cro-mo pushrods, it takes me 7-10 minutes (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
Cap'n Krusty |
Jul 7 2006, 05:59 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
If yopu use a 1/4" tip screwdriver, or even a 3/8 tip, between 12 and 18" long, you can get right in there from the outside. All 8 of 'em. Trust me, I've been doing this for 33 years. An offset wrench is nice, too.
One like this (sorry for the crude attempt at drawing!) __ \______________ \__ Mine's an old SK, but I'm sure there are others. The Cap'n Edit: The picture didn't work! Oh, well ............. |
anthony |
Jul 7 2006, 06:07 PM
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2270 club Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,107 Joined: 1-February 03 From: SF Bay Area, CA Member No.: 218 |
I highly recommend the Pelican article for a 1st timer. The turning the wheel from underneath the car trick is a great time saver.
http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/9...alve_adjust.htm |
Cap'n Krusty |
Jul 7 2006, 06:36 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
I highly recommend the Pelican article for a 1st timer. The turning the wheel from underneath the car trick is a great time saver. http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/9...alve_adjust.htm Time saver? Only takes 3 times as long as my way. Even with all the valves out, I can do them in 10 minutes, covers on to covers on. Of course, I've done a zillion, and I use a lift. My way is just simpler. Period. The Cap'n |
anthony |
Jul 7 2006, 07:39 PM
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2270 club Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,107 Joined: 1-February 03 From: SF Bay Area, CA Member No.: 218 |
The version posted in the classic thread somewhat requires that people know what they are doing. I just think the Pelican article with all of it's step by step instructions and purty pictures is better for a first timer.
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BigDBass |
Jul 7 2006, 08:47 PM
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Dumb Question Champion Group: Members Posts: 1,438 Joined: 11-January 06 From: Chicago (south 'burbs) Member No.: 5,405 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I have no idea when my valves were last adjusted. The PO had never even heard of valve
*Edit: (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) antidimated? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif) **EditEdit: QUOTE *Edit: (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) antidimated? And now you see why |
SGB |
Jul 7 2006, 09:09 PM
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just visiting Group: Members Posts: 4,086 Joined: 8-March 03 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 404 Region Association: South East States |
You do want to be sure you have solid lifters, not hydrualic ones like me. Hydro lifters are ~supposed~ to be set & forget, and thats pretty true, but it is kinda annoying to get 'em all screwed up using the traditional valve adjust method. So now is they question "how do I know if they are solid or hydraulic?" and as far as I know the best indicator is the use of a spring in the center part of the rocker assembly holding the valves in place on hydraulic lifter conversions. Another apparent characteristic is that the hydro lifters will compress a little when pressed on. This topic has been addressed here and at pelicanparts pretty completely.
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scottb |
Jul 7 2006, 09:24 PM
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who wants a PEZ?! Group: Members Posts: 1,993 Joined: 27-December 02 From: south-(not north)-wick, MA Member No.: 32 Region Association: North East States |
first time i did it was about 30 minutes....
did it again last tuesday with the headers off in about 10. i really like dave hunts explanation of the procedure. really clicked for me. your mileage may vary.... cheers, scott valve adjustment |
Dr Evil |
Jul 8 2006, 12:00 AM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
As far as screw drivers to use, the tiny (about 1" total length) 1/4" tipped screw drivers in the buckets at Harbor Freight for $.49 would probably work quite well here.
Just my $.02 |
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