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> 200HP RAT powered 914 in AX action!, With youtube video
Jake Raby
post May 19 2008, 12:35 PM
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This is a RAT 200HP turn key in action in a 914. The engine was our 2.4L AX special, making all it's power by 6,500 RPM.. It runs stock cooling too!

Listen to that beast!! He ended up taking top time of the day!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y13C3v2L788&feature=user

And this is the same car on the track at a DE.. Watch all those water pumpers get their doors blasted!!! (this video was posted a couple weeks ago here, just a comparison to how an engine can be "Dual purpose")
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uFRrbjy_pM&feature=user

Posting anything on forums other than my own opens up doors for people to deem something "advertisement".. Well this video is worth the blame and any flames that may arise from them.. I stand ready. Safety off. :-)

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post May 19 2008, 12:42 PM
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BTW-
Here is a video from the same car prior to the engine being "rabyized"...
Pretty dramatic difference!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx0O27omHMw...feature=related
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post May 19 2008, 12:58 PM
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Nice... I love how quickly those other cars get reeled in. The last one though was just annoying. They must have had some rule about passing sections.

This is a 2.4? Is it an exotic motor? Roller cam?
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post May 19 2008, 01:08 PM
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Not exotic, but it does use 98mm Nickies. Its a similar combo to Randal barricks and puts out roughly the same power at 80X98mm

It does NOT use a roller camshaft...

It uses LE 200 heads, 44mm Weber carbs, Mallory, etc... RAT/LN Billet rods and JE Pistons...

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post May 19 2008, 01:30 PM
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Thats fun to watch. The sound is totally different, and you can tell he has a LOT more torque to work with.

So what is new on the rollers? That is my dream upgrade...
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post May 19 2008, 01:38 PM
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of course..
That sound, never ceases to amaze me how sound impresses people, even more than the incredible throttle response that the sound is a byproduct of!
Here is the dyno graph from the engine.
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The roller design has been changed (for the 4th time) and is now working very well in a dedicated test engine we are using for Land Speed racing. I want the technology to break a Land Speed Record before I outfit any turn keys with it.
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post May 19 2008, 01:54 PM
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2,000 HP - I do not think this is possible : )

with all those rpms - might need a water cooled tach : )
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post May 19 2008, 02:00 PM
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2,000 HP= Just add Boost -) (lots of it!)
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post May 19 2008, 04:46 PM
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Gotta love that little wave once by the cabriolet.
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post May 19 2008, 04:56 PM
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remember folks, this was a DE/lapping day....
you have no idea what the skill level was of any of these drivers. It is obvious from the video these were not seasoned track drivers....look at some of the lines.
speeds were generally very low...not a race. Passing cars does not indicate anything other than they were slower for what ever reason.
Now with that said, the motor sounds very nice and obviously has tons of power.
After building my own 2056 with some of Jakes parts, I can say that this motor/car combination has some great potential.
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post May 19 2008, 05:01 PM
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True, I think he was running with the "Blue" group in the video.. Even the driver of the car rarely does anything except AX, and this was the first time he'd ever had the car on the track with more than stock HP. he is still trying to get accustomed to double the stock power within the same operating range as stock!

BUT there is no excuse why those pansy asses got passed by a VW engine that some redneck built in his backyard... :-)
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post May 19 2008, 05:24 PM
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definitely not knocking your product Jake...just putting a little information about the track episode.

had a lot less to do about the motor/hp and an lot more to do with the driver's skill levels...
If I build another 914, it will have Raby motor parts in it... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

by the way Jake, my orange 2056 now lives in San Diego with a new owner....he is loving the car and the motor.
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post May 19 2008, 05:37 PM
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Dan,
I never suspected that you were doing anything less than just making a clarification statement.. You are a believer- you have experienvced the differences first hand :-)

Glad the new owner is having fun with your old car!
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post May 19 2008, 07:44 PM
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Dan, ....Should I break the news to Jake about this past weekend? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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post May 19 2008, 08:28 PM
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Damn, Grant, I expected much more from you than that in the way of a smart assed remark... You must not be feeling well today.
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post May 19 2008, 08:51 PM
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I suppose Grant means that Dan drove his 6 at the GGR autocross in Alameda this last weekend. Not really a slam on what you do... Dan has owned a variety of 6's and 4's... Like me he can see the value in both.
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post May 19 2008, 09:01 PM
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Well I finally got spanked by a Raby Kit 2270 this weekend. But only in the straights.
Fred Hurst brought is white down and we jetted around town. took him down my favorite back road. and then up on the highway to allow him to sprint by me. Had a hell of a time.

We will be facing off at the next autocross, if he is lucky I will keep my street tires on.

By the way I thought the guy driving the AX course could do well by attending a school.

Fred got me thinking about more power again. Jake what's the schedule look like these days for the rest of the 2316-210 kit.
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post May 19 2008, 09:07 PM
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I have no problem with 6s or 4s. As long as it is a Porsche appropriate motor for a 914, then that is great.
As for the V8 conversions....well......that is another matter.
We had three at our last AX. One broke.......... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) , one was being driven very slowly and one is just being figured out, and does not have near enough tire under it for the motor in the engine bay.
I have yet to see a v8 conversion do well at an AX...maybe some day.
just too much for the chassis in stock form...
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post May 19 2008, 09:58 PM
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QUOTE(ConeDodger @ May 19 2008, 07:51 PM) *

I suppose Grant means that Dan drove his 6 at the GGR autocross in Alameda this last weekend. Not really a slam on what you do... Dan has owned a variety of 6's and 4's... Like me he can see the value in both.

Oh come on! I'm not that nice or that politcally correct! LOL! I actually was refering to a less well known T4 builder whose car bested the times of the Raby "Rocket" powered car. Hamilton Engineering has been building lighting fast Rabbit Rod T4's for years and actually has a long standing reputation of winning the most heavily attended AX's in the region. He stands undefeated this season. I appreciate his quiet competence in building the fastest T4 motors around.

If I was inclined to put a fast T4 in my car I'd be lining up to get a Hamilton Engineering T4 motor. I think Lee Hamilton is an underappreciated T4 motor builder we have in the 914 world. We all know about his motors here on the West Coast as we are always chasing his almost undefeated 914 AX car.

Oh! ....and perhaps not only did Dan drive a six, but he put a certain Raby powered car behind his times in an itsy bitsy 2480cc small bore six as well. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)

Ok now I'll behave myself. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif)

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post May 19 2008, 10:06 PM
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How about a Boxster engine/ tranny in a 550 Spyder??? Doing that one now!
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