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Received my COA today-question... |
PBC914 |
Jan 14 2011, 06:07 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 192 Joined: 30-December 10 From: Minneapolis Member No.: 12,545 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I'm restoring a early 74 914 (birthday is Aug of 73). I requested the overpriced COA for it.
I just received the COA today. My COA states that the car came with "pressure cast wheels". I just bought 4 used Fuchs for it prior to receiving the COA. Currently it has 2 steel sport wheels and 2 other wheels that nothing short of ugly (soon to be replaced!). I'm pretty sure this car had the appearance group (it has the original leather steering wheel, center console, bumperettes), and a previous owner sold the original wheels. Does anyone know if "pressure cast wheels"=Fuchs, Mahle's, Pedrini or other? I am still trying to find the original owner to see if they would provide some information on it. In the meantime, I'm hoping someone could verify this. Thanks-everyone has been great at providing answers to questions. Paul |
Cap'n Krusty |
Jan 14 2011, 06:51 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Had to be Mahle or Pedrini wheels, 'cause Fuchs are forged. As your car's a '74, there's a good chance they were Mahles.
The Cap'n |
Kansas 914 |
Jan 14 2011, 06:54 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,999 Joined: 1-March 03 From: Durango, Colorado Member No.: 373 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Had to be Mahle or Pedrini wheels, 'cause Fuchs are forged. As your car's a '74, there's a good chance they were Mahles. The Cap'n (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
Tom_T |
Jan 14 2011, 06:57 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,320 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California |
Had to be Mahle or Pedrini wheels, 'cause Fuchs are forged. As your car's a '74, there's a good chance they were Mahles. The Cap'n (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) #3 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) ... and IIRC the Pedrinis were discontinued after 73 MY & only Mahle 4-lugs were available thereafter -but some others on here should confirm that. |
JeffBowlsby |
Jan 14 2011, 07:27 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,730 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
The 2.0 Fuchs were the only forged wheel available='pressure cast'. Mahles, Pedrinnis are simply cast...not pressure cast.
"The ...forging process starts with extrusions of aerospace-grade 6061-T6 aluminum. 6061-T6 aluminum is considered the premium alloy for optimal strength properties optimizing wheel design and production. The aluminum billet is prepared and subjected to large forging presses, ranging up to 50,000-tons used for all wheel and aerospace applications, and extensive heat treatment and curing processes for optimal wheel strength." "Cast wheels are formed from molten aluminum placed into a mold. While casting may be a less expensive process, the melting of aluminum changes the properties and loses the natural grain and strength of the metal. A cast wheel exhibits strength properties significantly lower than a forged wheel." Reference: http://www.alcoa.com/alcoawheels/north_ame...ged/default.asp |
PBC914 |
Jan 14 2011, 09:17 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 192 Joined: 30-December 10 From: Minneapolis Member No.: 12,545 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
The 2.0 Fuchs were the only forged wheel available='pressure cast'. Mahles, Pedrinnis are simply cast...not pressure cast. "The ...forging process starts with extrusions of aerospace-grade 6061-T6 aluminum. 6061-T6 aluminum is considered the premium alloy for optimal strength properties optimizing wheel design and production. The aluminum billet is prepared and subjected to large forging presses, ranging up to 50,000-tons used for all wheel and aerospace applications, and extensive heat treatment and curing processes for optimal wheel strength." "Cast wheels are formed from molten aluminum placed into a mold. While casting may be a less expensive process, the melting of aluminum changes the properties and loses the natural grain and strength of the metal. A cast wheel exhibits strength properties significantly lower than a forged wheel." Reference: http://www.alcoa.com/alcoawheels/north_ame...ged/default.asp Thanks for the Fuch-en replies, very much appreciated! |
dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Jan 15 2011, 09:14 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,099 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
GREAT explaination! That means that all of your stable of Limited Editions have the cheap weak wheels on them then...................Except the one you have HERE at Automobile Atlanta!!!!!!!!!
The 2.0 Fuchs were the only forged wheel available='pressure cast'. Mahles, Pedrinnis are simply cast...not pressure cast. "The ...forging process starts with extrusions of aerospace-grade 6061-T6 aluminum. 6061-T6 aluminum is considered the premium alloy for optimal strength properties optimizing wheel design and production. The aluminum billet is prepared and subjected to large forging presses, ranging up to 50,000-tons used for all wheel and aerospace applications, and extensive heat treatment and curing processes for optimal wheel strength." "Cast wheels are formed from molten aluminum placed into a mold. While casting may be a less expensive process, the melting of aluminum changes the properties and loses the natural grain and strength of the metal. A cast wheel exhibits strength properties significantly lower than a forged wheel." Reference: http://www.alcoa.com/alcoawheels/north_ame...ged/default.asp |
johannes |
Jan 15 2011, 09:51 AM
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Club Porsche 914 France President Group: Members Posts: 3,084 Joined: 13-January 06 From: France Member No.: 5,409 Region Association: France |
The 2.0 Fuchs were the only forged wheel available='pressure cast'. Mahles, Pedrinnis are simply cast...not pressure cast. "The ...forging process starts with extrusions of aerospace-grade 6061-T6 aluminum. 6061-T6 aluminum is considered the premium alloy for optimal strength properties optimizing wheel design and production. The aluminum billet is prepared and subjected to large forging presses, ranging up to 50,000-tons used for all wheel and aerospace applications, and extensive heat treatment and curing processes for optimal wheel strength." "Cast wheels are formed from molten aluminum placed into a mold. While casting may be a less expensive process, the melting of aluminum changes the properties and loses the natural grain and strength of the metal. A cast wheel exhibits strength properties significantly lower than a forged wheel." Reference: http://www.alcoa.com/alcoawheels/north_ame...ged/default.asp Jeff , do you have any information about the weight of the Fuchs VS Mahle ? ... I have Mahle and I just weighted it : 6 kg that is 13 lb (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) |
johannes |
Jan 15 2011, 10:30 AM
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Club Porsche 914 France President Group: Members Posts: 3,084 Joined: 13-January 06 From: France Member No.: 5,409 Region Association: France |
OK, got the answer here ... http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=37115
Matt Monson wrote: I'm new. I'll get involved. I just weighed a Fuchs on the postal scale at 13.4lbs... So I have my answer: Mahle and Fuchs 4x130 weight about the same... 13 lbs. The only benefit of Fuchs is they should be stronger... BTW ... In my opinion the Mahle look better. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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