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Torsion bars, sway bars and spring rates |
ChrisReale |
May 6 2003, 06:10 PM
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Sleazy Group: Members Posts: 2,665 Joined: 20-January 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 176 |
Ok, heres my question. I have a 22mm front sway bar, 22mm torsions and 180 rear springs. I want to get a coil over set up for the rear. Should i go for rear springs that match the front torsion bar rate (close to 200#'s), or something like 225# rear springs and use the sway bar to make up for the less stiff 22mm bars? make sense?
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Brad Roberts |
May 6 2003, 06:20 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
175# Eibach or H+R. The 200's are a tad too stiff for what you are doing right now. We use the 175's at certain road courses and the 200's at others. The springs are typically 100$.
Jason @Paragon products. Brad/914club sent you. B |
TimT |
May 6 2003, 06:22 PM
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retired Group: Members Posts: 4,033 Joined: 18-February 03 From: Wantagh, NY Member No.: 313 |
Hey someone else is asking spring rate questions besides me!!!
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Bleyseng |
May 6 2003, 06:25 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,035 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Dude, you have a good set up now, Get some tires!
Geoff |
Brad Roberts |
May 6 2003, 06:25 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
And... lets make this clear that I KNOW he has a 4cyl car.
Sometimes (most of the time) I already know what kind of car the group member has when I answer. I'm getting "I'm confused" emails from people when I post a answer to some of the questions. B |
Bleyseng |
May 6 2003, 06:27 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,035 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
and seen it plus diagnosed a exhaust leak in about 2 milliseconds.
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Brad Roberts |
May 6 2003, 06:31 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Yeah.. I think Monique could have figured out the exhaust leak in about 50 seconds.
I hope he fixed it.. B |
ChrisReale |
May 6 2003, 06:43 PM
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Sleazy Group: Members Posts: 2,665 Joined: 20-January 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 176 |
Fella's, I knew I had an exhaust leak. Yes I fixed it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/finger.gif)
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Bleyseng |
May 6 2003, 06:45 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,035 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Brad, you wouldn't figured it out that day if Monique had been around!
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Brad Roberts |
May 6 2003, 06:50 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
um... why is that ? Did I miss a inside joke or somthing ?
B |
ChrisReale |
May 6 2003, 06:53 PM
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Sleazy Group: Members Posts: 2,665 Joined: 20-January 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 176 |
Geoff, I am getting two MPS's in this week. I need to use your pump to test them. Let me know when you are available (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wavey.gif)
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Brad Roberts |
May 6 2003, 06:54 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Does Geoff's penis pump work for that ?
:finger2: B |
ChrisReale |
May 6 2003, 06:56 PM
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Sleazy Group: Members Posts: 2,665 Joined: 20-January 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 176 |
So thats why the vacuum tester looked so wierd (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon8.gif)
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Bleyseng |
May 6 2003, 06:56 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,035 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Right now is good, as I am wasting time eating, drinking beer and posting waiting for the Mariners vs Yankees to come on.
Oh, I forgot Brad you are married and have only eyes for your wife. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) hey, I'll loan you that pump it will help out your little problem! |
ChrisReale |
May 6 2003, 06:59 PM
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Sleazy Group: Members Posts: 2,665 Joined: 20-January 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 176 |
I just got a 1.7 mps in the mail today. I am waiting or the 037 to come this week. Ill check with you later when I have everything..................
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Brad Roberts |
May 6 2003, 07:07 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
I never said I didnt "already" have one. LOL
I just never thought of using it to test MPS's. OH.. FYI. I think we can stamp new diaphrams for the MPS's here at the shop. B |
ChrisReale |
May 6 2003, 07:10 PM
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Sleazy Group: Members Posts: 2,665 Joined: 20-January 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 176 |
QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ May 6 2003, 06:07 PM) OH.. FYI. I think we can stamp new diaphrams for the MPS's here at the shop. B Cool! I know you are busy, but go for it. Help bring back all the MPS's from the dead. Fuck $700 for a new one! |
Bleyseng |
May 6 2003, 07:12 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,035 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Sell them for atleast $100 each and people will still save money ($100 +$50 to recalibrate) . Put me on the testing list....
Also, stamp out some of the 2.0l spacers as those are needed to convert 1.7l ones. Blair and I have been talking about the other EFI set ups. Megasquirt might be a good cheap alternative but a better EFI can be had for $1000 with way more "steps" to program and get around some of the problems. Geoff |
Brad Roberts |
May 6 2003, 07:13 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Hummm.. weigh it out:
MegaS or New Diaphrams ?? MegaS or New Diaphrams ?? MegaS or New Diaphrams ?? Tough choice. Goeff... I'm building the new computer for the dyno room and have ordered the new software for it. We will have 90K dollar Superflow dyno ready to run with all the latest bells and whistles within 3 weeks. B |
Bleyseng |
May 6 2003, 07:22 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,035 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Is the MS adjustable enough to really work without the problems Dhunt is having? It might be just too simple of a system. On a dyno you can figure it all out in a few days.
Diaphrams can be fitted to any MPS if they are the same as the oem, lots of running cars that will need them, say maybe 20,000. Geoff |
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