I stepped to the dark side, Raced a 911 this weekend |
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I stepped to the dark side, Raced a 911 this weekend |
drew365 |
Dec 6 2004, 10:28 AM
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These are the good old days! Group: Members Posts: 2,004 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Sunny So. Cal. Member No.: 37 |
I attended the POC racers clinic at Buttonwillow this weekend. My 914-6 ran great all day Saturday. We were the last group on the track and got in after dark. A bunch of people complimented me on how well the 914 cornered. I got back in the car after impound and it made a horrible noise after starting. Sounds like the flywheel fell apart.
My friend let me run his 911 so I could complete the clinic on Sunday. I had never driven 911 before and was worried about damaging someone elses car. I finished the clinic, took 4th in our 15 lap race and my best time was 1.5 sec faster than in the 914. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) And that was with a 245 tire with 8 inch rim on the left rear and right front and a 225 tire with 7 inch rim on the right rear and left front because we did a complete brake job and miss matched the tires trying to get me to grid on time. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) |
Howard |
Dec 6 2004, 10:35 AM
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Incontin(g)ent Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,785 Joined: 24-July 03 From: Westlake Village, CA Member No.: 943 Region Association: None |
Careful, this is how it starts. See how fast you can go in a real Porsche? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Bigbohr |
Dec 6 2004, 11:08 AM
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Superlurker Group: Members Posts: 224 Joined: 19-September 03 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 1,176 |
Beginner's luck ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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davep |
Dec 6 2004, 11:14 AM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,151 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
Aww, get real. The 911 makes a great parts doner to the 914. Put the good parts in your 914/6 and see the results on your lap time.
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Sammy |
Dec 6 2004, 01:04 PM
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. Group: Members Posts: 1,190 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Orange, Ca Member No.: 178 |
What were the specs/modifications on the 911?
Also, more details on the special tire stagger, I might want to try that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
drew365 |
Dec 6 2004, 07:26 PM
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These are the good old days! Group: Members Posts: 2,004 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Sunny So. Cal. Member No.: 37 |
The 911 is the one behind me in my avatar. I believe it's an '84 with a 3.2. He runs in KP class and the car is basically stock. I figure my time improvement has as much to do with a better feel for the track on day two, but I was surprised at how easy it was to step into a 911 and be competitive. Our secret tire stagger gave the car a split personality. (insert snare drum)
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Steve |
Dec 7 2004, 09:21 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,606 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Orange County, CA Member No.: 822 Region Association: Southern California |
I heard that 911's corner very well but if you push it to hard in a corner and let your foot up off the gas than its game over.
You get the notorious lift throttle oversteer. I couldn't believe all the early 911's that were spinning out at the last auto cross. |
machina |
Dec 7 2004, 09:31 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,030 Joined: 21-June 03 From: Miami Beach, FL Member No.: 848 |
QUOTE(Steve @ Dec 7 2004, 10:21 AM) I heard that 911's corner very well but if you push it to hard in a corner and let your foot up off the gas than its game over. Well that is true but so far I have found 911's to be more controllable than my 914. Even though the weight is out back on a 911, the pivot point of the car is well forward compared to the central pivot point of the 914. I find the 914 more twitchy at the limit. With the 911 it was easier for me to control the back end because I had a better sense or what it was going to do. I could steer with the throttle easier. I have probably 20 times more track time in a 911 so I just have to get used to the characteristics of the 914. I will say that the inherent layout and light weight of the teener makes it feel better out of the box. I probably need another couple seasons in the 914 to sort out the chassis and drive it to its potential. |
TimT |
Dec 7 2004, 10:09 AM
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retired Group: Members Posts: 4,033 Joined: 18-February 03 From: Wantagh, NY Member No.: 313 |
QUOTE I find the 914 more twitchy at the limit. With the 911 it was easier for me to control the back end because I had a better sense or what it was going to do. I could steer with the throttle easier. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I also have about 15 years of track experience in a 911, and only 3-4 years in a 914. I find throttle steering and rotating the car much easier in my 911 than in my 914 They both are great track cars (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
drew365 |
Dec 7 2004, 07:42 PM
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These are the good old days! Group: Members Posts: 2,004 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Sunny So. Cal. Member No.: 37 |
The motto of the 911 racers I know is, "Don't lift!" I don't plan on buying a 911 anytime soon but I feel I might be able to drive one in a team effort enduro now and not embarass myself. Maybe next years Tribute to LeMan. My goal is still to gain respect for the 914 within the POC. Randy Beck drove a 914-6 to a second place finish in Sundays Red Group Cup Race. It was a 3.3 turbo screamer. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)
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Duffster |
Dec 7 2004, 08:18 PM
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OFWG Group: Benefactors Posts: 258 Joined: 29-August 03 From: Riverside, CA Member No.: 1,087 |
Whoa...Andy! Dude! Here, sniff this old oil tank/filter gasket and lay down with a cold compress, until it passes. If you don't turn back now, We'll find you walking down San Fernando Road with one cowboy boot on and your shirttail partially cut off, toting an empty jug of VP fuel, waving a sign that says "will do damn near anything for a GT3" The next time we see you, you would be plastering the backside of The Racer's Group shop, just so you can sniff around their parts bins...GO BACK!!! ITS A TRAP!!!!!
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campbellcj |
Dec 7 2004, 11:29 PM
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I can't Re Member Group: Members Posts: 4,547 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Agoura, CA Member No.: 21 Region Association: Southern California |
Andy, congrats on completing the clinic! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif) That was one of my goals for this year but...well there's always 2005...
I have been seriously thinking about a (modern i.e. 964 or newer) 911 of some sort as my next street car. For now the 914 will remain my track steed as it is still way more car than I am driver, and could be developed quite a bit more if desired. The 911's are great cars and I highly recommend having one of each (911 & 914) if possible. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) |
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