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any idea's on cv joints or whole half shaft? |
Nolongermusclecars |
Aug 16 2008, 09:11 AM
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dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Aug 16 2008, 09:23 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,872 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
i blew a cv joint on my 1974 1.8... can you guys help... first i believe both sides (pasa and driver) are the same shaft and both ends have the sam cv joint correct? so all 4 cv are identical right??? next where the hell do i get one??? i could buy cv's and replace my self or just by rebuilt and supply a core... any idea's guys?? and is there a better cv to use these seem crappy? i have pretty stock motor so i'm, not putting out ton of power... i saw the upgraded set but i don't feel like pissing away $900... any help or suggestions are welcome thanks!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) the joints have been discontinued, zimms modifies a set of bug joints and swears that they will fit. Our solution is to have the originals rebuilt so we sell a rebuilt axle exchange for 199.50. Haven't had a complaint! |
Eric_Shea |
Aug 16 2008, 11:54 AM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
http://www.pmbperformance.com/catalog/item...868/3857681.htm
Can ship Monday. Back on vacation. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif) |
Nolongermusclecars |
Aug 18 2008, 01:19 PM
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SirAndy |
Aug 18 2008, 01:38 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,651 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Or you could look at it as a opportunity and convert to 5-lug with bigger CVs!
Hey, it's only money ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Andy HOW TO: Convert to real 5-lug in the rear using 944 CVs: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=80641 |
Eric_Shea |
Aug 18 2008, 02:19 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE not thrilled with the price but hey guess they got me by the short and curlys here You should compare them to our competitors pricing for the same thing. Then we add gaskets and Schnorr washers. And, we replace them no questions asked in the first year... even if you've been autocrossing. With my parts cost and the machining and the gas I made about $20 hard earned bucks off that one. I try my best to keep the pricing real (real fair) as I myself have been caught by my short and curlys as well. I own the same Porsche you do. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
McMark |
Aug 18 2008, 02:22 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
We can't always get everything for $5.00. Some things cost money to manufacture and/or modify. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Sorry, I'm not aiming at you. I'm just tired of the "I want everything CHEAP!" attitude. As you said, welcome to owning a Porsche. |
SirAndy |
Aug 18 2008, 02:24 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,651 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
I try my best to keep the pricing real (real fair) as I myself have been caught by my short and curlys as well. I own the same Porsche you do. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) $90 for a new CV with gaskets, bolts and washers is more than fair! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy Attached image(s) |
ericread |
Aug 18 2008, 02:27 PM
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The Viper Blue 914 Group: Members Posts: 2,177 Joined: 7-December 07 From: Irvine, CA (The OC) Member No.: 8,432 Region Association: Southern California |
I think everybody has a bit of sticker shock when they first start buying parts. Part of what comes along with owning a 914.
Eric |
sww914 |
Aug 18 2008, 03:02 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,439 Joined: 4-June 06 Member No.: 6,146 Region Association: None |
A local auto electrical place that rebuilds alternators and starters also rebuilds axles. $69.00 per axle with new boots and new paint.
They bore out the grooves and install slightly larger balls. |
SirAndy |
Aug 18 2008, 03:05 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,651 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
They bore out the grooves and install slightly larger balls. Wouldn't that weaken the cage? Which is the the part that usually fails. Doesn't seem like a good idea to take off any material from the weakest part ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Andy |
BKLA |
Aug 18 2008, 07:15 PM
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Really old member Group: Members Posts: 1,253 Joined: 14-August 05 From: OR Member No.: 4,590 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
eric and mark have a great product! Support is superb!
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sww914 |
Aug 18 2008, 07:56 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,439 Joined: 4-June 06 Member No.: 6,146 Region Association: None |
They bore out the grooves and install slightly larger balls. Wouldn't that weaken the cage? Which is the the part that usually fails. Doesn't seem like a good idea to take off any material from the weakest part ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Andy I dunno. They've never failed, yet. |
monkeyboy |
Aug 19 2008, 11:22 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 808 Joined: 8-June 08 From: Los Angeles, Ca Member No.: 9,147 Region Association: None |
They bore out the grooves and install slightly larger balls. Wouldn't that weaken the cage? Which is the the part that usually fails. Doesn't seem like a good idea to take off any material from the weakest part ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Andy No, bigger balls is never a problem... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Instead of messing with mine, I replaced the whole shaft with the AA replacements. I am still waiting to get them in the car though. I did like that they came packed, and I didn't have to do that myself, but I am lazy. |
Nolongermusclecars |
Aug 26 2008, 07:55 AM
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Eric_Shea |
Aug 26 2008, 10:19 AM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
FYI Gang,
I replied to Joshua's email last night. The CV is machined on the flat surface (not the chamfered surface) so the gasket will have a proper mating area. Mike Mueller (the original machinist) and I had a fairly lengthy discussion as to which end to machine. The CV is basically universal. In all applications in the past, this has left a (roughly) 1/8" lip (because of the chamfer) on the boot. This is cosmetic and in no way affects the performance or the longevity of the CV. The boot still mounts firmly to the CV and performs its intended task. Once the CV is torqued, that boot is tight against the CV. Frankly, I'm kind of tired of the attitude Joshua. First it was the fact that I've caught you by the "short and curlies" blatantly implying that I'm overcharging you because you have a Porsche. Then I get the email stating "I figured you had this down" etc. When I replied (while on vacation) I told you I had a CV I could ship out Monday. You ended up ordering two. I expedited a shipment of CV's and rushed one over to my machine shop which he fit in for me in one afternoon. You had two CV's the following Monday. You overpaid on the shipping, I refunded the freight and sent you a note that they were on the way and all I seem to get back from you is an adversarial attitude to the tone that I'm somehow screwing you. P-L-E-A-S-E send them back for a full refund... even the shipping back. Now, I don't know how much more accommodating than that I can be Joshua. You have other options. You can purchase the same CV's from Zim's. It's possible they machined them right for you. They're an "excellent" organization out of the Dallas/Ft. Worth area. You can order the complete axle assembly from George. Here's some links so you don't have to go searching. Zim's: http://www.allzim.com/cgi/sh000001.pl?REFP...e332_2e029_2e03 AA: http://www.autoatlanta.net/record_detail.l...5FF&-Search |
Nolongermusclecars |
Aug 26 2008, 10:57 AM
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McMark |
Aug 26 2008, 12:41 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
You think the mass of people who recommended Eric's part did it without knowing they were good. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) I know you think you're being reasonable, but you're not coming across that way.
If you expect Eric to hold everyone's hand on these things, get ready for a nice strong tug on your "short & curlies" because the price will double. Just like any parts store, there is an expectation of competence. Do you walk into NAPA and ask for an instruction sheet with your parts? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Woulda been much smarter to make a post or start a thread with only four words: this thing seems wrong... It would have made you seem a whole lot nicer. QUOTE So if i knew i was installing them backwards i would be driving my Porsche right now If you had posted here on the forum or searched you would be driving your Porsche right now. It's your own fault. YOU decided that they must be wrong and gave up. YOU could have sought more information here and found it in minutes. YOU have no one to blame but yourself. |
MZM |
Aug 26 2008, 01:31 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 36 Joined: 26-April 07 From: San Diego Member No.: 7,692 |
A buttinski word on behalf of Eric. There is no better service available from any vendor anywhere that I have worked with. This experience comes from building five one-of race cars and buying parts from probably fifty different sources.
Mike M |
yarin |
Aug 27 2008, 12:29 PM
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'14-X'in FOOL Group: Members Posts: 988 Joined: 13-May 03 From: Guttenberg, NJ Member No.: 693 Region Association: North East States |
Eric has stood behind me at all times with his CV joints, it's an excellent bargain replacement. I highly recommend purchasing 914 parts from PMB Performance.
The CV joint pins will dictate the orientation, no problem there. After a few installs it's a piece of cake. Thanks Eric! |
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