help with a closeup photo, 1973 Porsche 2.0l fuel injection relay board |
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help with a closeup photo, 1973 Porsche 2.0l fuel injection relay board |
t2avlis |
Sep 15 2008, 07:53 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 15-September 08 From: Modesto, ca Member No.: 9,550 Region Association: Northern California |
I am looking for some help with a 73 914 2.0L that looks like it is missing a relay from the fuel injection board. If someone could post a close up photo of the board with the cover off that would be helpful.
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Racer |
Sep 15 2008, 08:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 787 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Northern Virginia Member No.: 1,073 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Is it a circular relay you think you are missing? IIRC, not all 4 relays are needed. At least 2 are (one for fuel pump, one for fuel injection), I think a third is some lighting and I think the 4th is for a rear defroster. At least that's for a '76. Sorry I don't have a pic of mine to share at the moment.
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Cap'n Krusty |
Sep 15 2008, 08:11 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Unless you have the heated rear window option, which is pretty rare, the forwardmost relay is supposed to be missing. The rearmost relay is for the heater blower, the two in between are the FI system relay and the fuel pump relay.
The Cap'n |
SirAndy |
Sep 15 2008, 09:15 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,675 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Unless you have the heated rear window option, which is pretty rare, the forwardmost relay is supposed to be missing. The rearmost relay is for the heater blower, the two in between are the FI system relay and the fuel pump relay. I like to use the front relay socket to hold a spare relay ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Andy (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-11-1109378319.jpg) |
r_towle |
Sep 15 2008, 09:17 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,586 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
dirty dirty dirty....bad boy
wrong ground nut location also....two demerits.. Rich |
SirAndy |
Sep 15 2008, 09:22 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,675 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
wrong ground nut location also....two demerits.. What? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) You on crack again? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Andy |
r_towle |
Sep 15 2008, 09:26 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,586 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
mine is below the board...way down low so it can rust nicely...
I remember it fondly each year when I get to clean it... Thought they put all of them down low. And yours is cleaner than mine...though mine has a nice shiny oily glow to it all...its like engine bay wax...keeps it all shiny... Rich |
t2avlis |
Sep 15 2008, 11:39 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 15-September 08 From: Modesto, ca Member No.: 9,550 Region Association: Northern California |
Thanks for the photo and all the help. I was confused by the missing relay but I dont have the rear window defroster so I the empty spot makes sense.
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rjames |
Sep 17 2008, 11:47 AM
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I'm made of metal Group: Members Posts: 3,951 Joined: 24-July 05 From: Shoreline, WA Member No.: 4,467 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I've had some electrical issues with my 914 in the past (who hasn't) and noticed that the only wires on mine that are grounded to the chasis under the relay board in my car are the 4 (or so) wires clustered together.
Is there supposed to be a ground that goes directly from the the relay board to the chasis similar to the one shown in Andy's photo? |
Sleepin |
Sep 17 2008, 12:28 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,647 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Grand Junction, Co. Member No.: 8,357 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
So which relay is the rear window relay? I have spent some time troubleshooting mine on the '73. I have power to the switch (light comes on) but not to the leads on the window.
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rjames |
Sep 17 2008, 01:06 PM
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I'm made of metal Group: Members Posts: 3,951 Joined: 24-July 05 From: Shoreline, WA Member No.: 4,467 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
So which relay is the rear window relay? I have spent some time troubleshooting mine on the '73. I have power to the switch (light comes on) but not to the leads on the window. QUOTE Unless you have the heated rear window option, which is pretty rare, the forwardmost relay is supposed to be missing. The rearmost relay is for the heater blower, the two in between are the FI system relay and the fuel pump relay. The Cap'n |
McMark |
Sep 17 2008, 01:27 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Some cars have the grounding stud under the relay board. Some are above. Get over it! It's called production changes. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Sleepin |
Sep 17 2008, 02:32 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,647 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Grand Junction, Co. Member No.: 8,357 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
So which relay is the rear window relay? I have spent some time troubleshooting mine on the '73. I have power to the switch (light comes on) but not to the leads on the window. QUOTE Unless you have the heated rear window option, which is pretty rare, the forwardmost relay is supposed to be missing. The rearmost relay is for the heater blower, the two in between are the FI system relay and the fuel pump relay. The Cap'n (IMG:style_emoticons/default/051103-stupid4.gif) Doh! |
SirAndy |
Sep 17 2008, 02:50 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,675 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Is there supposed to be a ground that goes directly from the the relay board to the chasis similar to the one shown in Andy's photo? Only if you switched over to carbs ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=25954 |
swl |
Sep 17 2008, 06:51 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,409 Joined: 7-August 05 From: Kingston,On,Canada Member No.: 4,550 Region Association: Canada |
From front to back:
rear window defogger main power relay (fi) fuel pump relay heater blower relay (the blower right under the relay panel. Cap'n - don't know why you say the rear window defrosters are rare. Almost every 914 I've seen has one (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
rjames |
Sep 18 2008, 12:11 PM
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I'm made of metal Group: Members Posts: 3,951 Joined: 24-July 05 From: Shoreline, WA Member No.: 4,467 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE Cap'n - don't know why you say the rear window defrosters are rare. Almost every 914 I've seen has one I would assume that the Great White North probably saw more of those units installed then California did... |
swl |
Sep 18 2008, 05:42 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,409 Joined: 7-August 05 From: Kingston,On,Canada Member No.: 4,550 Region Association: Canada |
you did see the wink right? Sad part is most of those rare options are sitting in rusted out hulks in Mark Henry's back field (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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