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Someone pissed off Jake & Len, replicating LE heads |
davep |
Nov 25 2008, 02:07 PM
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a new thread on Air Cooled Technology:
http://forums.aircooledtechnology.com/show...23001#post23001 it was not a smart move on someones part. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
ONTHEGRIND |
Nov 26 2008, 12:10 PM
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You should have never created this thread...
If I was having some sort of problems last thing I'd want is it on the INTERNET.. |
LarryR |
Nov 26 2008, 12:14 PM
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You should have never created this thread... If I was having some sort of problems last thing I'd want is it on the INTERNET.. I would argue the opposite if you want to point out the culprit and discourage use of their products. However, I have read every part of this thread and would not know the person to avoid... |
brer |
Nov 26 2008, 01:34 PM
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You should have never created this thread... If I was having some sort of problems last thing I'd want is it on the INTERNET.. I would argue the opposite if you want to point out the culprit and discourage use of their products. However, I have read every part of this thread and would not know the person to avoid... I was thinking about this exact thing and was also wanting comment on the difference between an exact digital reproduction of a head and a head that was independently designed incorporating data observed from one or multiple different example of other heads. The other day I was looking at a collection of port shapes cast from exceptionally ported dragster heads. All of these were tagged and documented and used regularly for reference and study by the person who owned them. Some were taken from blown heads but he also paid good money for alot of the heads they came from. I'm sure if you looked at this persons work you would find elements of other peoples work, which in itself is not unethical in any way. The ideas and techniques may have been individual in application but were definitely not unique to any one port or designer. Pulling a casting of a port is the way head porting people have done it for years. Its part of the process and is totally in line with the experimental and creative aspects of the work. Digital information is now part of the creative process and I think its fair to extend the practice of casting along with current working methods that utilize the new technology. This is something that already exists within the art of porting. Taking a silicon casting of a port or digitizing it are the same thing, basically 'COPYING" someones port. But to then take and apply that information wholesale to a product for sale in my opinion is the real ethical transgression, not the casting. Any head porters want to dispute this? I would like to hear your thoughts. Of course those who race guard their designs fiercly, but this is the nature of the sport. On the other hand, to offer something for sale publicly means any expectation for secrecy is relinquished and the designer doesn't have any right to attack someone who learns from their work and applies that knowledge. Duplicating a head for profit is different. Thats my opinoin as a designer and while I morally agree that their work should not be "carbon copied" and offered for sale I also see a potential for the community to respond in ways that could unfairly affect others in the feild. What would you think if a new CNC Type 4 head was offered next month? Despite havine zero proof of anything I think I know what my first thought would be. This kinda bugs me and makes me think more details are needed. |
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