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Someone pissed off Jake & Len, replicating LE heads |
davep |
Nov 25 2008, 02:07 PM
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a new thread on Air Cooled Technology:
http://forums.aircooledtechnology.com/show...23001#post23001 it was not a smart move on someones part. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
DBCooper |
Nov 26 2008, 04:34 PM
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This has been blown WAY out of proportion. From what I read SOMEONE said "Could I buy a head so I could copy it? Hardy har har."
That's it, nothing more. Probably just a bad joke, like the ones you restrain yourself from blurting out in airport security. It's the wrong thing to say at the wrong time to the wrong person, so instead of getting a laugh we now have a full season's worth of drama. |
davep |
Nov 26 2008, 06:56 PM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,157 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
From what I read SOMEONE said "Could I buy a head so I could copy it? Hardy har har." Then you had better go back and read from the horse's mouth. "he asked the caller why he wanted to see one, he replied that he wanted to BORROW one for replication" That is the lowest level of IP theft! |
DBCooper |
Nov 26 2008, 08:08 PM
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14's in the 13's with ATTITUDE Group: Members Posts: 3,079 Joined: 25-August 04 From: Dazed and Confused Member No.: 2,618 Region Association: Northern California |
From what I read SOMEONE said "Could I buy a head so I could copy it? Hardy har har." Then you had better go back and read from the horse's mouth. "he asked the caller why he wanted to see one, he replied that he wanted to BORROW one for replication" That is the lowest level of IP theft! It's not possible to go back an re-read the thread now because the link won't let you into those forums. But this whole story smells funny. So tell me since I can't re-read it, who was the "he" who asked "the caller"? And who was the caller? A competitor? Or was it just some yahoo on the phone making sarcastic joke? Do you know? Does Jake? If somebody asked me a stupid question like "why do you want to see it?" [when I might want to see it before I bought it just because it costs so much] I might make some stupid sarcastic remark too. So what exactly was the story? Did anything happen at all? Or is all this just pointless drama because someone was trying to make a funny? |
r_towle |
Nov 26 2008, 08:38 PM
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From what I read SOMEONE said "Could I buy a head so I could copy it? Hardy har har." Then you had better go back and read from the horse's mouth. "he asked the caller why he wanted to see one, he replied that he wanted to BORROW one for replication" That is the lowest level of IP theft! It's not possible to go back an re-read the thread now because the link won't let you into those forums. But this whole story smells funny. So tell me since I can't re-read it, who was the "he" who asked "the caller"? And who was the caller? A competitor? Or was it just some yahoo on the phone making sarcastic joke? Do you know? Does Jake? If somebody asked me a stupid question like "why do you want to see it?" [when I might want to see it before I bought it just because it costs so much] I might make some stupid sarcastic remark too. So what exactly was the story? Did anything happen at all? Or is all this just pointless drama because someone was trying to make a funny? DB... For whatever reason you seem to have a hair accross your ass about this. For legal reasons, no one should need to know who this person is, or have the ability to slander this person during the investigation and legal proceedings... DB...legal rules would allow this person to get away with it and accuse Jake/Len of something worse in the process just so YOU get to know who it is. Dont take that the wrong way, but please think about what you are asking and the consequences to Jake and Len... This issue is being dealt with by Jake and Len...it was posted here so that if and when you happen to see heads that are copies that may or may not pop up on Ebay some day....you might remember. It was posted by a client, not by Jake. Both Jake and Len came here to explain and defend their business practices...they did not come here for your approval or judgement on the case. IP law and the protection of IP, including tradmemarks like VW , Beetle, Porsche has been going on for ages...nothing wrong with a business standing up for its rights. Rich |
DBCooper |
Nov 27 2008, 07:53 AM
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14's in the 13's with ATTITUDE Group: Members Posts: 3,079 Joined: 25-August 04 From: Dazed and Confused Member No.: 2,618 Region Association: Northern California |
It's not possible to go back an re-read the thread now because the link won't let you into those forums. But this whole story smells funny. So tell me since I can't re-read it, who was the "he" who asked "the caller"? And who was the caller? A competitor? Or was it just some yahoo on the phone making sarcastic joke? Do you know? Does Jake? If somebody asked me a stupid question like "why do you want to see it?" [when I might want to see it before I bought it just because it costs so much] I might make some stupid sarcastic remark too. So what exactly was the story? Did anything happen at all? Or is all this just pointless drama because someone was trying to make a funny? DB... For whatever reason you seem to have a hair accross your ass about this. For legal reasons, no one should need to know who this person is, or have the ability to slander this person during the investigation and legal proceedings... DB...legal rules would allow this person to get away with it and accuse Jake/Len of something worse in the process just so YOU get to know who it is. Dont take that the wrong way, but please think about what you are asking and the consequences to Jake and Len... This issue is being dealt with by Jake and Len...it was posted here so that if and when you happen to see heads that are copies that may or may not pop up on Ebay some day....you might remember. It was posted by a client, not by Jake. Both Jake and Len came here to explain and defend their business practices...they did not come here for your approval or judgement on the case. IP law and the protection of IP, including tradmemarks like VW , Beetle, Porsche has been going on for ages...nothing wrong with a business standing up for its rights. Rich Fine, Rich, so pages and pages of discussion, on this and other forums, and I ask, did this really happen as it's been presented? Or is it possible someone was just making a stupid joke and this has all been totally blown out of proportion? I don't need names or even really care who it was, what I'd like to know is if there's any actual proof, or is this all just hearsay? Is this phone conversation by other people being remembered and then reported verbatim? Was this "other party" even really a competitor? Or just some random yahoo? Important details, like for example did the guy laugh after he asked if he could "borrow" the head? Serious question. Look, people look at their competitor's products all the time, and that's normal. You think Jake and Len don't look at the work of other head porters? EVERYONE does it and it doesn't mean a thing. So what's the problem? Is there one? Really? And more, why would another head porter, someone who has the means, need to "borrow" a head? Why wouldn't he just buy one? Online, T4 Store, no questions asked? Buy it and return it if he was strapped. Even more important, if this mysterious guy on the line really had bad intentions, then why ON EARTH would he announce them like that? There are a hundred simple explanations he could have given, like he wanted to show it to a customer, show it to his wife before he paid $1000 for it, see if it matched the one he bought on e-bay, whatever. Excuse me, but this story doesn't make any sense unless it was just someone making a stupid sarcastic joke. Is it being negative to notice that Jake is prone to exaggerate? The stupid joke explanation makes a lot more sense than believing that a thief would call you on the phone to ask if you'd help him rob you. There is no intention to slam anyone, and in re-reading things I don't think anyone HAS been slammed. But for this amount of drama I have to think there are a lot of questions that haven't been answered. Or even asked. Oh, and Happy Thanksgiving, everybody. |
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