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Engman
post Mar 12 2004, 04:42 PM
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Well I literally just got these...... laser time went sky high with the added holes but they are needed.

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post Mar 16 2004, 11:34 AM
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Interesting thought using epoxy and /or fiber re-enforced epoxy. It does however add a whole new set of issues that would require some testing of the bond interface. Things that come to mind would be differentials in the CTE's, shock loading, joint design, and probably some other things in the mix. Selecting the proper adhesive would be most important, I would think.

Perhaps a single piece structural fiberglass pan you'd drop into the cabin onto the pan/inside longs with the appropriate shape, cut-outs, ribbing, etc. bonded in place might be a nice solution; just a thought

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Engman   Internal longs - The product   Mar 12 2004, 04:42 PM
kenpolives   Nice, need any test dummies?   Mar 12 2004, 05:33 PM
Engman   Brad has a set going out hopefully tomorrow. Price...   Mar 12 2004, 07:26 PM
TimT   Im in for a set :beer1:   Mar 12 2004, 07:45 PM
Air_Cooled_Nut   Since I'm not always gutting out a 914 I have ...   Mar 12 2004, 09:14 PM
ChrisReale   They go inside the cabin along the longs and rear ...   Mar 12 2004, 09:47 PM
GWN7   Very nice :trophy: :beer2:   Mar 13 2004, 12:14 AM
SirAndy     Mar 13 2004, 02:01 AM
thesey914   IIRC Brad said that the inner longs are the target...   Mar 13 2004, 02:09 AM
eresener   M, These are great. They will certainly save alot ...   Mar 13 2004, 04:26 AM
joea9146   Very Nice any pictures of them Installed ? Now I ...   Mar 13 2004, 05:09 AM
maf914   Very nice. :trophy: I'm interested in a se...   Mar 13 2004, 10:11 AM
Engman   Sorry no new pics today - my 13 yr old dauhgter ha...   Mar 13 2004, 06:46 PM
Brad Roberts   I thought about having you go to the floorpans. Wh...   Mar 14 2004, 01:42 AM
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kwales   Sunflower, Quick hand calc looks like it is true ...   Mar 15 2004, 06:21 PM
Engman   E-coat primer painted. This is weldable. Laser c...   Mar 15 2004, 06:43 PM
TimT   I am an engineer as well however I dont play one ...   Mar 15 2004, 07:10 PM
TimT   I have an FEA program siting on my PC somewhere......   Mar 15 2004, 07:12 PM
Qarl   I agree... adding a Z-fold would add additional st...   Mar 15 2004, 09:47 PM
914MF   If you added a z-fold would it be fesible to epoxy...   Mar 15 2004, 11:01 PM
Qarl   I have no idea about the epoxy. I didn't even...   Mar 15 2004, 11:14 PM
vortrex   my uncle is a painter/fabricator/restoration guy. ...   Mar 15 2004, 11:50 PM
GWN7   They glue 1/4 panels on now. I have been told it...   Mar 16 2004, 12:05 AM
joea9146   Yes why not add the overlap to the top and glue/b...   Mar 16 2004, 05:19 AM
eresener   This thread has been very interesting. I am not an...   Mar 16 2004, 06:26 AM
sunfloweryellow914   It doesn't make any sense to prefabricate any ...   Mar 16 2004, 07:28 AM
joea9146   Some 3M Bonding Agents. 3M Bond 3M Structural ...   Mar 16 2004, 08:41 AM
Gint   Mark, This is interesting. Nice work. I may be ...   Mar 16 2004, 10:21 AM
rhaas   I would not apply carbon fiber directly over the s...   Mar 16 2004, 10:33 AM
Brad Roberts   Damn.. look at the "BIG BRAIN" on the 914 club. We...   Mar 16 2004, 11:27 AM
andys   Interesting thought using epoxy and /or fiber re-e...   Mar 16 2004, 11:34 AM
kwales   I usta do a lot of military and aircraft,-spacecra...   Mar 16 2004, 11:55 AM
crash914   Way back when I was a rocket scientist... I used ...   Mar 16 2004, 12:10 PM
Qarl   Yes, I think a combination of aerospace-type epoxy...   Mar 16 2004, 01:50 PM
sunfloweryellow914   If someone can figure a way of making the doors be...   Mar 16 2004, 04:29 PM
Brett W   You have just hit on the modern dilemna of chassis...   Mar 16 2004, 04:47 PM
GWN7   Weld the doors shut and put in a cage. You could a...   Mar 16 2004, 04:59 PM
Jeroen   I used Duramix (www.duramix.com) from 3M to glue i...   Mar 16 2004, 07:43 PM
McMark   ENGMAN Brad would like you to call HPH asap! ...   Mar 17 2004, 01:21 PM
9146986   Interesting thread. My first impressions were t...   Mar 17 2004, 08:37 PM
sunfloweryellow914   If you had a set of really strong rocker panels an...   Mar 18 2004, 07:19 AM


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