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> Gas Prices are going to kill me!!!!, $2.20 Gal
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post May 8 2004, 12:07 PM
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I just paid $2.20 gallon for gas, and the prices are still going up, every day the price goes up 3 or 4 cents.



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post May 10 2004, 03:42 PM
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On the Mercades, 91 octane might be recommended, but a nice modern car like the Mercades should be ok on lower octane, just a little less perfromance, as the computer that controls the engine senses knock from low octane, and retards the timing just enough to stop the knocking. Technology is great some times!

The real problem is for a high compression car that does not have the knock sensor, as the low grade crap gas we get in high tech silicon valley will cause knocking, and the owner must manually retard the timing, increase mixture or what ever.

Last year used to buy 92 octane, now max is 91 octane, can you all believe this crap??? What ever happened to 98 octane, (when did we stop that???)

The oxygenates they ad now also are harmful, as they tend to lean out mixtures in older cars (either in carb cars, or older FI cars, like the 914) You need to richen the mixture by adding more fuel volume than was needed in the past, if you do not, you run lean. And when you make the fix (if you even can on a 914) your milage drops, so you burn more of the damn stuff anyway!!! (True enough, in my "fleet" of a half dozen cars or so, when they switched gas mixures out here, my milage went down about 10%, as was predicted in the news papers)

Ok, I think getting the lead out of gas was good, it was just so toxic, but good greif, many of the stuff they make us put in gas in Nazi California is a bunch of mumbo jumbo that non scientist wacko politicians come up with (like farm subsidizing thru mandated use of alchohol in the gas) There is little logic to the "clean gas laws" makes distribution more expensive, and is driven by political choices, and by persons (elected or appointed) that would rather see all evil cars scrapped so we can all ride busses in their commie socialist paridise.

I truely believe the lack of octane greater than 91 is purposely in place to run older performance cars out of the state, or into museums. I do not understand why a higher octane grade could not be made and be as clean as the so called clean gas we have today. (barring political mandated additives)

At any rate, nice Mercades!

dave

PS to address the monopoly issue of only two owners of Californias gas supply, The politicians have effectivily barred outside compitition by making it too expensive to get into Californias market. They have done this by not approving any new refineries for years, super strict pollution laws, workers comp laws, and numerous "un-freindly to business" laws, high taxes, oh, and special gas, gas that must be different depending on the time of year, and what county you sell it in. Why do business here, when the other 49 states are so much easier????

We are lucky we have to have even one, much less two gas suppliers out here.

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morphenspectra   Gas Prices are going to kill me!!!!   May 8 2004, 12:07 PM
415PB   I payed 2.53 a gallon today. This sucks   May 8 2004, 12:18 PM
Aaron Cox   at $220.00 i wouldnt be complaining about a c...   May 8 2004, 12:18 PM
morphenspectra   Got it fixed   May 8 2004, 12:20 PM
morphenspectra     May 8 2004, 12:20 PM
SirAndy     May 8 2004, 03:25 PM
rhodyguy   wait til it hits $3.50. then start whinning. ...   May 8 2004, 04:04 PM
Mark Henry   $.94/liter here :angry:   May 8 2004, 04:05 PM
vortrex   still less than $2 for 94 octane here.   May 8 2004, 04:12 PM
SP9146   Guys I don't think it's taxes this time or...   May 8 2004, 04:27 PM
mikester   There are a number of factors as to why our gas pr...   May 8 2004, 05:05 PM
TimT   Well drop your drawers, and place your elbows on t...   May 8 2004, 05:30 PM
mikester   Exactaramadingdong Couldn't have said it bett...   May 8 2004, 05:51 PM
rhodyguy   and without so much as a kiss first tim.   May 8 2004, 07:55 PM
Randal   6-8 months ago I heard Joseph Alioto, the ex-major...   May 8 2004, 10:47 PM
Malmz   I'm still trying to reason why diesel is now t...   May 8 2004, 11:00 PM
Otmar   Gas? What's that? You guys still using gas? ...   May 9 2004, 02:42 AM
Chris914n6     May 9 2004, 05:13 AM
mikester   My 914 got freaking great mileage on the highway b...   May 9 2004, 08:05 AM
Bruce Allert   I have a 68 galon tank in the "Beav" :o Shit!(...   May 9 2004, 08:24 AM
rhodyguy   oh, they're going to go down bruce. i mean the...   May 9 2004, 08:34 AM
mikester   I take the bus every day to work. My commute is ha...   May 9 2004, 09:02 AM
anthony   My buddy takes the bus too. The problem is that mo...   May 9 2004, 09:20 AM
PatW   Supply and demand and Government Intervention help...   May 9 2004, 09:28 AM
Red-Beard   Glad to hear the run back was uneventful! Good...   May 9 2004, 09:44 AM
tesserra   The story on the deisel going up is that spill, pi...   May 9 2004, 09:45 AM
rhodyguy   shell- royal dutch petroleum. bp- british petroleu...   May 9 2004, 10:37 AM
morphenspectra   i walked in the house and gave my wife the recipt ...   May 9 2004, 10:59 AM
trekkor   Diesel in Napa was $2.49 a gal. $.06 hi...   May 9 2004, 11:32 AM
MXMARK   Man I need to figure this out. $32.00 for 5 g...   May 9 2004, 12:06 PM
tesserra   A great lee Iacoca quote: There is some thing wro...   May 9 2004, 12:22 PM
Malmz     May 9 2004, 01:05 PM
Red-Beard   You startup and shutdown on Diesel. You switch ove...   May 9 2004, 09:21 PM
Otmar   I don't know about the emissions of SVO (strai...   May 9 2004, 09:27 PM
Lawrence     May 10 2004, 01:50 AM
MrPitbull   As the guy from UK said our price of gas is so muc...   May 10 2004, 04:38 AM
Red-Beard   <...   May 10 2004, 06:21 AM
mikester     May 10 2004, 01:57 PM
Toast   I paid $2.49 a gallon this morning. Here i...   May 10 2004, 02:29 PM
itsa914   Took the boy to Nana's this morning gas was ...   May 10 2004, 02:33 PM
anthony  
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TROJANMAN   filled up the new mercedes at costco yesterday for...   May 10 2004, 02:44 PM
SLITS   Seeing as how the "oil companies" are multinationa...   May 10 2004, 03:18 PM
Dr Evil   On the news a couple of days ago they reported tha...   May 10 2004, 03:29 PM
dmenche914   On the Mercades, 91 octane might be recommended, b...   May 10 2004, 03:42 PM
Malmz     May 10 2004, 10:34 PM
Red-Beard   Mike, the new avatar is disturbing.... James   May 10 2004, 11:41 PM
Otmar  
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tdgray   Not to get to far off topic but you really need to...   May 11 2004, 06:07 AM
Red-Beard   In San Diego, the News just flashed real published...   May 11 2004, 07:03 AM
rhodyguy   forget the fuel eveything is more exspensive. paid...   May 11 2004, 07:20 AM


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