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corpselaurel
post May 27 2004, 01:38 PM
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I am trying to figure out what to do about my suspension. I want dampening adjustability and height adjustability. I am not very familiar with products for the 914. If it was any other car I would go with something like Tein SS or H&R etc.

What coil overs do you guys use? Any full coil over setups available? (Threaded shocks not sleeves)

Should I go with a koni shock threaded sleeve setup? I have a budget of about $800 give or take. I would like to get a new torsion bar too.

Does it make any difference if I am doing a 5 lug conversion from a 911 in the front?
Where did you get what you're using?
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post Jun 4 2004, 05:38 PM
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corpselaurel ,

people have tried front coil overs without reinforcing..
sure it works for a while...

do you really want to loose control of your car when it breaks.. perhaps in a corner.. perhaps at 100mph...

not something to risk or mess around with really...
The higher the spring rate the sooner this will be a problem..


The factory design has the torsion bar act as the spring.. thus the weight of the vehicle and more than the static weight, but the increased force of hitting bumps etceterra is supported in a bar that mounts horizontally. The the Frame (if you will) of a 911 or 914 is strengthened to hold the whole weight of the car in this area below the front trunk...

so if you convert to a coil over, now you are asking the upright metal area of the front suspension to hold 2k+ when it was designed to originally only keep the shock in place...... it was not designed to hold 2000 lbs..... the top mount area will eventually pop loose... not a good thing to happen....

Torsion bars have some pretty damn good strengths going for them too.... They carry the weight of the suspension as sprung weight and not unsprung like a coil over partially does....
The weight of a torsion bar is lower..

etc...
etc...

A coil over is easier to change.. thats about it really...
the suspension joints are the same (or can be wildly modified) in either case. If your not changing springs for every different track that you visit.. then I would highly recommend against a coil over set up as the money could be better spent on purchasing seat time...

Sorry for the rant.. its been a crappy day...

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corpselaurel   Coil over options - what do you use?   May 27 2004, 01:38 PM
Brad Roberts   This is what I sell when I can get the Koni's....   May 27 2004, 02:14 PM
Lawrence   Hey Brad, Do the adjustable threaded collars come...   May 28 2004, 02:48 AM
Brad Roberts   All the pieces can be bought seperate and yes.. an...   May 28 2004, 03:10 AM
ablose58   Where can I get the konis and adj. spring perches ...   May 28 2004, 05:47 AM
fiid   On Brad's recommendation I ordered mine from G...   May 28 2004, 10:11 AM
1973914   Im looking into buying this right now, but am worr...   May 28 2004, 10:50 AM
fiid   How far is your bottom spring clip groove from the...   May 28 2004, 10:57 AM
1973914   I am adjusted as low as they will allow at the mom...   May 28 2004, 01:19 PM
Brad Roberts   Correct. They will not fit the red Koni's. The...   May 28 2004, 01:38 PM
1973914   Thanks for the confirmation on that Brad. Now of ...   May 28 2004, 01:47 PM
brant   1973914, do you really want/need the expense of ...   May 28 2004, 01:49 PM
1973914   Brant, My car is full track now, but i do not wan...   May 28 2004, 01:55 PM
brant   crap.. I don't know if its a problem or not. I...   May 28 2004, 03:08 PM
1973914   First of all, nice avatar Brant B) i get a chuck...   May 28 2004, 03:30 PM
brant   I would definitely... definitely think you can get...   May 28 2004, 03:57 PM
corpselaurel   What kind of dampening adjustability do the koni y...   May 29 2004, 04:46 PM
Mueller   Yes, you can use the 911 RSR style struts...Kanna(...   May 29 2004, 06:44 PM
Brett W   Call Blake down at OPM in GA and get him to hook y...   May 29 2004, 06:58 PM
brant   yeah corpselaurel, there are threaded shock bodi...   May 30 2004, 09:24 AM
trekkor   I am running the exact set-up Brad recommends. It ...   May 30 2004, 04:57 PM
1973914   I have all but made the phone call with CC in hand...   Jun 1 2004, 06:17 AM
Brett W   it is all bolt on using the Carrera hardware   Jun 1 2004, 11:04 AM
corpselaurel   <...   Jun 1 2004, 06:32 PM
TimT   in this case Carrera is a shock manufacturer...   Jun 1 2004, 07:11 PM
corpselaurel  
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corpselaurel   Anyone know what type of reinforcing is nessecary?...   Jun 3 2004, 02:20 PM
Mueller   Shock tower fix The parts can be bought from Smar...   Jun 3 2004, 02:26 PM
corpselaurel   Dear god! You have got me rethinking my whole...   Jun 3 2004, 03:28 PM
seanery   not necessary for the rear, already a coilover the...   Jun 3 2004, 03:44 PM
Mueller   You only need to beef up the front, see Brads repl...   Jun 3 2004, 03:50 PM
corpselaurel   The site doesn't really mention reinforcment. ...   Jun 4 2004, 03:18 PM
airsix     Jun 4 2004, 03:35 PM
ldino21   Hey Brad Roberts Have you ever gotten those 150# ...   Jun 4 2004, 04:38 PM
brant   corpselaurel , people have tried front coil overs...   Jun 4 2004, 05:38 PM
corpselaurel   brant, thanks a lot - you really cleared things up...   Jun 4 2004, 05:52 PM
corpselaurel   What would be the best way to reduce the ride heig...   Jun 4 2004, 06:07 PM
TimT  
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seanery   there are torsion bar adjusters on each of the fro...   Jun 4 2004, 06:28 PM
corpselaurel  
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TimT  
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corpselaurel   timt, I think you might have missed my other post:...   Jun 4 2004, 06:42 PM
TimT   This is the front suspension in my 914 I have m...   Jun 4 2004, 06:56 PM
Mueller  
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corpselaurel   timt, how long have you been running like that? (...   Jun 4 2004, 09:33 PM


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