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> Camaro Z-28 @ Nurburgring
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post Oct 15 2013, 07:20 PM
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I want to buy a Camaro!


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post Oct 16 2013, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE(carr914 @ Oct 15 2013, 06:54 PM) *

Topped out at 159 MPH, I've seen Videos of Hans Stuck at over 180 in a BMW V8.

Still impressive


The BMW not in a street production car

QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Oct 15 2013, 08:23 PM) *

Was that a showroom car or was it uuum, "tweeked"?


manufactures use the ring as a development track and one the they can benchmark against other makes. if it was "tweeked" they couldn't use the lap times as a marketing tool so no not "tweeked" and also on the tires it will leave the showroom with.

QUOTE(messix @ Oct 15 2013, 10:40 PM) *

that was one loose ride!

definitely traction challenged.


a...it was raining and on street tires

QUOTE(ThePaintedMan @ Oct 16 2013, 03:52 AM) *

I wonder if it was Jim Mero again. He was the engineer working on the Corvette that decided to take it to the track back in 2011 and set the record (at the time). Didn't ask Chevy's permission, just went and did it.


no it was Adam Dean

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QUOTE(914forme @ Oct 16 2013, 06:14 AM) *

Now please give us a mid-size RWD or AWD (not based on FWD platform) coupe or sedan. Great handling, a shifter, and the third pedal, know as a clutch. Decent fuel mileage in the low 40s, you guys can do it, so just do it already.

No. Instead they will spend 100s of millions in advertising telling you what you should want, and it wont have a stick and it won't get good mileage. Detroit, especially GM, has never seemed to grasp the concept of filling needs. They seem to think it is our job to want the product. With all that said, I would buy an American car any day. But the 94 Escort I bought new still gets me around in winter, so I don't have to...yet.



really. really. GM builds a track demon version of the Camaro and you state "GM, has never seemed to grasp the concept of filling needs." That's got to be one of the most crazy statements I've heard in a long time. GM provides the Camaro in a base V6, SS, 1LE, the supercharged ZL1, and now the track Z28. the Camaro is not for everyone but for people who do like it, they have a lot of choices...err needs filled.

BTW: my LS7 Vette gets 28 MPG on the highway.
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QUOTE(Type 47 @ Oct 16 2013, 01:49 PM) *

QUOTE(carr914 @ Oct 15 2013, 06:54 PM) *

Topped out at 159 MPH, I've seen Videos of Hans Stuck at over 180 in a BMW V8.

Still impressive


The BMW not in a street production car

QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Oct 15 2013, 08:23 PM) *

Was that a showroom car or was it uuum, "tweeked"?


manufactures use the ring as a development track and one the they can benchmark against other makes. if it was "tweeked" they couldn't use the lap times as a marketing tool so no not "tweeked" and also on the tires it will leave the showroom with.

QUOTE(messix @ Oct 15 2013, 10:40 PM) *

that was one loose ride!

definitely traction challenged.


a...it was raining and on street tires

QUOTE(ThePaintedMan @ Oct 16 2013, 03:52 AM) *

I wonder if it was Jim Mero again. He was the engineer working on the Corvette that decided to take it to the track back in 2011 and set the record (at the time). Didn't ask Chevy's permission, just went and did it.


no it was Adam Dean

QUOTE(worn @ Oct 16 2013, 07:10 AM) *

QUOTE(914forme @ Oct 16 2013, 06:14 AM) *

Now please give us a mid-size RWD or AWD (not based on FWD platform) coupe or sedan. Great handling, a shifter, and the third pedal, know as a clutch. Decent fuel mileage in the low 40s, you guys can do it, so just do it already.

No. Instead they will spend 100s of millions in advertising telling you what you should want, and it wont have a stick and it won't get good mileage. Detroit, especially GM, has never seemed to grasp the concept of filling needs. They seem to think it is our job to want the product. With all that said, I would buy an American car any day. But the 94 Escort I bought new still gets me around in winter, so I don't have to...yet.



really. really. GM builds a track demon version of the Camaro and you state "GM, has never seemed to grasp the concept of filling needs." That's got to be one of the most crazy statements I've heard in a long time. GM provides the Camaro in a base V6, SS, 1LE, the supercharged ZL1, and now the track Z28. the Camaro is not for everyone but for people who do like it, they have a lot of choices...err needs filled.

BTW: my LS7 Vette gets 28 MPG on the highway.


Nice reply. I have never been a GM fan; however, there is very little that can be said against the current crop of cars for the prices they sell for. Porsche is worried about the new C7...and they should be. Awesome performance for a fraction of the money. The new interior is finally at the quality level it should have been all along and the looks are comparable to any modern supercar.
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carr914   Camaro Z-28 @ Nurburgring   Oct 15 2013, 07:20 PM
Type 47   Gotta love that LS7 HP and getting air @ 135 mph. ...   Oct 15 2013, 07:59 PM
carr914   Topped out at 159 MPH, I've seen Videos of Han...   Oct 15 2013, 08:54 PM
bulitt   Topped out at 159 MPH, I've seen Videos of Ha...   Oct 16 2013, 12:52 AM
SLITS   161   Oct 15 2013, 09:30 PM
Randal   Pretty fast driving in the rain. Looks like a fun...   Oct 15 2013, 09:42 PM
Elliot Cannon   Was that a showroom car or was it uuum, "twee...   Oct 15 2013, 10:23 PM
messix   that was one loose ride! definitely traction ...   Oct 16 2013, 12:40 AM
Rleog   Driver?   Oct 16 2013, 04:56 AM
ThePaintedMan   I wonder if it was Jim Mero again. He was the engi...   Oct 16 2013, 05:52 AM
914forme   The Z28 is a redesigned version for SCCA Trans-Am ...   Oct 16 2013, 08:14 AM
worn   Now please give us a mid-size RWD or AWD (not ba...   Oct 16 2013, 09:10 AM
Type 47   Topped out at 159 MPH, I've seen Videos of Ha...   Oct 16 2013, 11:49 AM
billh1963   [quote name='carr914' post='1941363' date='Oct 15...   Oct 16 2013, 12:14 PM
DBCooper   GM and journalists are touting that Camaro as ...   Oct 16 2013, 12:54 PM
billh1963   GM and journalists are touting that Camaro as ...   Oct 16 2013, 01:33 PM
Ferg   As a Mustang lover, I just crapped my pants :droo...   Oct 16 2013, 01:26 PM
pt_700   1v3CzvQ9e_w   Oct 16 2013, 01:51 PM
DBCooper   I never said that the Camaro isn't a dollar fo...   Oct 16 2013, 02:02 PM
Type 47   ...I myself can't wait to see the first Z28 s...   Oct 16 2013, 08:58 PM
carr914   The weird thing is, if you ever saw the the front ...   Oct 16 2013, 05:35 PM
Type 47   I never said that the Camaro isn't a dollar f...   Oct 16 2013, 08:21 PM
DBCooper   So the 911 Carrera S is the base 911?? This is c...   Oct 16 2013, 09:06 PM
Type 47   So the 911 Carrera S is the base 911?? This is ...   Oct 16 2013, 09:42 PM
ThePaintedMan   My source was AutoWeek...I can't speak for an...   Oct 17 2013, 06:32 PM
carr914   The weird thing is, if you ever saw the the...   Oct 16 2013, 08:38 PM
Type 47   [quote name='Type 47' post='1941910' date='Oct 16...   Oct 16 2013, 08:48 PM
carr914   [quote name='Type 47' post='1941910' date='Oct 1...   Oct 16 2013, 09:04 PM
carr914   ...I myself can't wait to see the first Z28 ...   Oct 16 2013, 09:07 PM
carr914   ...I myself can't wait to see the first Z28 ...   Oct 16 2013, 09:09 PM
Type 47   [quote name='Type 47' post='1941927' date='Oct 16...   Oct 16 2013, 09:47 PM
carr914   Actually cars in the Original TA Series in the 60...   Oct 16 2013, 10:03 PM
396   I want to buy a Camaro! qj1h75vA1Jw TC, ...   Oct 17 2013, 07:30 AM
ConeDodger   1.5g's in the rain. Umm ya! That'll sc...   Oct 17 2013, 05:37 PM
DBCooper   1.5g's in the rain. Umm ya! That'll s...   Oct 17 2013, 05:53 PM
Type 47   Actually cars in the Original TA Series in the 60...   Oct 17 2013, 07:18 PM
Type 47   BTW: did anyone see that Porsche busted in to the ...   Oct 17 2013, 07:22 PM
dlkawashima   Before you start a new thread .... http://www.914...   Oct 17 2013, 07:24 PM
carr914   [quote name='carr914' post='1941962' date='Oct 16...   Oct 17 2013, 09:22 PM
Type 47   [quote name='carr914' post='1941962' date='Oct 1...   Oct 17 2013, 09:33 PM
mgp4591   [quote name='carr914' post='1942445' date='Oct 17...   Oct 18 2013, 08:27 AM
carr914   AMX Proto - it had a Rumble Seat! :beer2:   Oct 17 2013, 09:37 PM
Type 47   AMX Proto - it had a Rumble Seat! :beer2: ...   Oct 17 2013, 09:53 PM
draganc   blablabla, the Porsche has a bigger pu$...   Oct 17 2013, 10:52 PM
DBCooper   blablabla, the Porsche has a bigger pu$...   Oct 18 2013, 08:13 AM


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