Camaro Z-28 @ Nurburgring Options

[carr914]

I want to buy a Camaro!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj1h75vA1Jw

[Type 47]

I never said that the Camaro isn't a dollar for dollar deal, what I said is that it's distasteful to take the result of one competition, where your top-of-the line product bested a competitor's bottom of the line product, and use that to infer your own product's "superiority."

In my view that's deceitful, but I'm more than willing to give GM the benefit of the doubt. If they really believe their own advertising then it would seem a very small step for them to enter, and win, other competitive events that count on the regular participation of Porsche vehicles. I myself can't wait to see the first Z28 show up at my local autocross track, and will certainly and gladly to to Sears Point or Laguna Seca to witness GM's performance head-to-head against the Porsche contingent.

For perspective I saw my very first TransAm race at Vernalis in 1967 with Mark Donahue and Peter Revson, pony cars head-to-head with 911's and even a Lotus-Cortina. Things have changed, and I'm pretty sure I know what to expect.

So the 911 Carrera S is the base 911?? This is copy from the distasteful journalist:
Despite the rain, this Z28 managed to shave a few seconds off the still-impressive 7:41.27 run a Camaro ZL1 laid down in 2011. Chevrolet is quick to point out that the Z28's time is a bit better than the 991 Porsche 911 Carrera S and a Lamborghini Murcielago LP640, and we can add the Lexus LFA and Ford GT to the list of cars the Camaro bests.

The weird thing is, if you ever saw the the front suspension of a Camaro, you would wonder how it even turns! No A-Arms, Two Tie-Rods, the Strut just kinda hangin! And no Aftermarket Fix!

The suspension of a ZL1 and Z28 is much different than the suspension of a base V6. see note below from Autoweek. Also, remember GM developed magnetic ride control is the suspension control of choice for Ferrari.

Suspension revisions include 85 percent stiffer front springs, 65 percent stiffer rear springs, stiffer bushings, and Dynamic Suspensions Spool Valve (DSSV) dampers from Multimatic. First developed in Champ Car back in 2002, the DSSV dampers utilizes spool valves to regulate oil flow through various shaped ports compared to stacks of flexible disks with a series orifices in shim dampers. Multimatic says its spool valve offers higher levels of predictability, accuracy, and repeatability. In the Z/28’s damper, there are two spool valves letting engineers independently tune compression and rebound characteristics. The result, according to Chevy, is a 1.29-inch lower center of gravity than the SS and up to 1.08 g of cornering acceleration.

Of particular interest, a number of Formula One teams use DSSV dampers, including Red Bull Racing, they are installed on Acura’s LMP1 and LMP2 cars, and are the spec dampers for DTM, Formula 3 and the Ferrari 458 Challenge series

[DBCooper]

So the 911 Carrera S is the base 911?? This is copy from the distasteful journalist:

Yeah, except that's not the article I read. Different journalist. I'll find it and let you explain that one.

[Type 47]

So the 911 Carrera S is the base 911?? This is copy from the distasteful journalist:

Yeah, except that's not the article I read. Different journalist. I'll find it and let you explain that one.

My source was AutoWeek...I can't speak for any other publication...Journalist are supposed to have some level of integrity...unless the publication was club specific or brand specific. If you are a PCA member check out the September issue (ltrs to ed) where they were called out for being a bit distasteful to another car make.

[ThePaintedMan]

My source was AutoWeek...I can't speak for any other publication...Journalist are supposed to have some level of integrity...unless the publication was club specific or brand specific. If you are a PCA member check out the September issue (ltrs to ed) where they were called out for being a bit distasteful to another car make.

Saw the Panorama jab at the C7. Then the editors tried to pass it off as humor. Either way, it was lame and why I'm still very skeptical of a lot of Porsche owners. Too many people just want the name and recognition of owning one and can't handle the fact that there *could* be other cars out there that are faster and cheaper. Buy the car for your own reasons and don't feel the need to explain it to others.

Either way the C7 and 911 are both way out of my price range for years to come, so I'll shut my mouth and stay in the right lane with my teener (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)