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post Oct 15 2013, 07:20 PM
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I want to buy a Camaro!


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QUOTE(Type 47 @ Oct 17 2013, 09:18 PM) *

QUOTE(carr914 @ Oct 16 2013, 08:03 PM) *

Actually cars in the Original TA Series in the 60's & early 70's were Production Cars that were crazy prepped

You can tell a real 1969 Z-28 by it's Intake

Dan Gurney secretly Acid-Dipped the bodys of his Cudas to lose weight, while Sam Posey didn't with his Challengers and could never figure out why his cars were so much slower than Dan's!


A real 1969 Z-28 is verified by a combination of many things...the X-33 or X-77 on the cowl tag and matching engine numbers that begin with DZ.

If the intake you are referring to is the Winters cross ram, that was an option. If you checked the box when ordering it showed up in the trunk.

If you are referring to another intake that I'm not aware of please let me know what it is. I Have had 3 69' Camaros and think I know a lot about them but would like to know more if there was a standard intake that identified the Z-28. Most of the big blocks came with aluminum Winters intakes but the special cross ram was only available as a special order for Z-28's, and as I stated came in the trunk, so there was another intake on the car when delivered. My brother has a matching numbers 69' Z-28.

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QUOTE(Type 47 @ Oct 16 2013, 11:42 PM) *

My source was AutoWeek...I can't speak for any other publication...Journalist are supposed to have some level of integrity...unless the publication was club specific or brand specific. If you are a PCA member check out the September issue (ltrs to ed) where they were called out for being a bit distasteful to another car make.


Saw the Panorama jab at the C7. Then the editors tried to pass it off as humor. Either way, it was lame and why I'm still very skeptical of a lot of Porsche owners. Too many people just want the name and recognition of owning one and can't handle the fact that there *could* be other cars out there that are faster and cheaper. Buy the car for your own reasons and don't feel the need to explain it to others.

Either way the C7 and 911 are both way out of my price range for years to come, so I'll shut my mouth and stay in the right lane with my teener (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)


I thought the jab was not something that should be in Pano...Porsche is such a high quality company, there is no reason to take a jab at another manufacturer...although I get it, having both a Porsche and a Vette. The target market for each is the other car. GM practically copied the configuration of the 928 for the C5 which was designed (body) by one of the pioneers of the Corvette, Larry Shinoda (name could be misspelled).

Anyway, I took a little issue when I read the article and fired off an email to the editor...they actually published it.


No, I was talking about the Cross Ram. IMHO, a Real Z-28 is a Small Block which is what was raced in the Trans-Am Series. But due to being in the Muscle Car era, Camaros had 396s & 427s, which are cool, but due to weight can't handle with the Small Blocks

I get Pano, but I really don't read it anymore, so I don't know the reference to the C7. But in blind defense, Chevrolet has taken aim at Porsche with the advertising for the C7. BTW, the C7 is a GREAT Driving car and looks much better in person than in pictures.

Shinoda is spelled correctly. The 928 was almost an exact copy of the AMX Concept Car, so GM copied Porsche who copied American Motors
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QUOTE(carr914 @ Oct 17 2013, 07:22 PM) *

QUOTE(Type 47 @ Oct 17 2013, 09:18 PM) *

QUOTE(carr914 @ Oct 16 2013, 08:03 PM) *

Actually cars in the Original TA Series in the 60's & early 70's were Production Cars that were crazy prepped

You can tell a real 1969 Z-28 by it's Intake

Dan Gurney secretly Acid-Dipped the bodys of his Cudas to lose weight, while Sam Posey didn't with his Challengers and could never figure out why his cars were so much slower than Dan's!


A real 1969 Z-28 is verified by a combination of many things...the X-33 or X-77 on the cowl tag and matching engine numbers that begin with DZ.

If the intake you are referring to is the Winters cross ram, that was an option. If you checked the box when ordering it showed up in the trunk.

If you are referring to another intake that I'm not aware of please let me know what it is. I Have had 3 69' Camaros and think I know a lot about them but would like to know more if there was a standard intake that identified the Z-28. Most of the big blocks came with aluminum Winters intakes but the special cross ram was only available as a special order for Z-28's, and as I stated came in the trunk, so there was another intake on the car when delivered. My brother has a matching numbers 69' Z-28.

QUOTE(ThePaintedMan @ Oct 17 2013, 04:32 PM) *

QUOTE(Type 47 @ Oct 16 2013, 11:42 PM) *

My source was AutoWeek...I can't speak for any other publication...Journalist are supposed to have some level of integrity...unless the publication was club specific or brand specific. If you are a PCA member check out the September issue (ltrs to ed) where they were called out for being a bit distasteful to another car make.


Saw the Panorama jab at the C7. Then the editors tried to pass it off as humor. Either way, it was lame and why I'm still very skeptical of a lot of Porsche owners. Too many people just want the name and recognition of owning one and can't handle the fact that there *could* be other cars out there that are faster and cheaper. Buy the car for your own reasons and don't feel the need to explain it to others.

Either way the C7 and 911 are both way out of my price range for years to come, so I'll shut my mouth and stay in the right lane with my teener (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)


I thought the jab was not something that should be in Pano...Porsche is such a high quality company, there is no reason to take a jab at another manufacturer...although I get it, having both a Porsche and a Vette. The target market for each is the other car. GM practically copied the configuration of the 928 for the C5 which was designed (body) by one of the pioneers of the Corvette, Larry Shinoda (name could be misspelled).

Anyway, I took a little issue when I read the article and fired off an email to the editor...they actually published it.


No, I was talking about the Cross Ram. IMHO, a Real Z-28 is a Small Block which is what was raced in the Trans-Am Series. But due to being in the Muscle Car era, Camaros had 396s & 427s, which are cool, but due to weight can't handle with the Small Blocks

I get Pano, but I really don't read it anymore, so I don't know the reference to the C7. But in blind defense, Chevrolet has taken aim at Porsche with the advertising for the C7. BTW, the C7 is a GREAT Driving car and looks much better in person than in pictures.

Shinoda is spelled correctly. The 928 was almost an exact copy of the AMX Concept Car, so GM copied Porsche who copied American Motors


Really...I will have to do some research on the AMX as I love the 928 (I had 3).

GM has taken aim at the 911 since the C4...The C6 Z06 was allowed to be 3" longer but not the base C6 b/c they wanted it to be exactly the same dimensions as the 911.

BTW: yes the Z-28 was a small block...302. SCCA rules mandated a max of 305 (not sure how the Mopars had street cars with 340's?)
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carr914   Camaro Z-28 @ Nurburgring   Oct 15 2013, 07:20 PM
Type 47   Gotta love that LS7 HP and getting air @ 135 mph. ...   Oct 15 2013, 07:59 PM
carr914   Topped out at 159 MPH, I've seen Videos of Han...   Oct 15 2013, 08:54 PM
bulitt   Topped out at 159 MPH, I've seen Videos of Ha...   Oct 16 2013, 12:52 AM
SLITS   161   Oct 15 2013, 09:30 PM
Randal   Pretty fast driving in the rain. Looks like a fun...   Oct 15 2013, 09:42 PM
Elliot Cannon   Was that a showroom car or was it uuum, "twee...   Oct 15 2013, 10:23 PM
messix   that was one loose ride! definitely traction ...   Oct 16 2013, 12:40 AM
Rleog   Driver?   Oct 16 2013, 04:56 AM
ThePaintedMan   I wonder if it was Jim Mero again. He was the engi...   Oct 16 2013, 05:52 AM
914forme   The Z28 is a redesigned version for SCCA Trans-Am ...   Oct 16 2013, 08:14 AM
worn   Now please give us a mid-size RWD or AWD (not ba...   Oct 16 2013, 09:10 AM
Type 47   Topped out at 159 MPH, I've seen Videos of Ha...   Oct 16 2013, 11:49 AM
billh1963   [quote name='carr914' post='1941363' date='Oct 15...   Oct 16 2013, 12:14 PM
DBCooper   GM and journalists are touting that Camaro as ...   Oct 16 2013, 12:54 PM
billh1963   GM and journalists are touting that Camaro as ...   Oct 16 2013, 01:33 PM
Ferg   As a Mustang lover, I just crapped my pants :droo...   Oct 16 2013, 01:26 PM
pt_700   1v3CzvQ9e_w   Oct 16 2013, 01:51 PM
DBCooper   I never said that the Camaro isn't a dollar fo...   Oct 16 2013, 02:02 PM
Type 47   ...I myself can't wait to see the first Z28 s...   Oct 16 2013, 08:58 PM
carr914   The weird thing is, if you ever saw the the front ...   Oct 16 2013, 05:35 PM
Type 47   I never said that the Camaro isn't a dollar f...   Oct 16 2013, 08:21 PM
DBCooper   So the 911 Carrera S is the base 911?? This is c...   Oct 16 2013, 09:06 PM
Type 47   So the 911 Carrera S is the base 911?? This is ...   Oct 16 2013, 09:42 PM
ThePaintedMan   My source was AutoWeek...I can't speak for an...   Oct 17 2013, 06:32 PM
carr914   The weird thing is, if you ever saw the the...   Oct 16 2013, 08:38 PM
Type 47   [quote name='Type 47' post='1941910' date='Oct 16...   Oct 16 2013, 08:48 PM
carr914   [quote name='Type 47' post='1941910' date='Oct 1...   Oct 16 2013, 09:04 PM
carr914   ...I myself can't wait to see the first Z28 ...   Oct 16 2013, 09:07 PM
carr914   ...I myself can't wait to see the first Z28 ...   Oct 16 2013, 09:09 PM
Type 47   [quote name='Type 47' post='1941927' date='Oct 16...   Oct 16 2013, 09:47 PM
carr914   Actually cars in the Original TA Series in the 60...   Oct 16 2013, 10:03 PM
396   I want to buy a Camaro! qj1h75vA1Jw TC, ...   Oct 17 2013, 07:30 AM
ConeDodger   1.5g's in the rain. Umm ya! That'll sc...   Oct 17 2013, 05:37 PM
DBCooper   1.5g's in the rain. Umm ya! That'll s...   Oct 17 2013, 05:53 PM
Type 47   Actually cars in the Original TA Series in the 60...   Oct 17 2013, 07:18 PM
Type 47   BTW: did anyone see that Porsche busted in to the ...   Oct 17 2013, 07:22 PM
dlkawashima   Before you start a new thread .... http://www.914...   Oct 17 2013, 07:24 PM
carr914   [quote name='carr914' post='1941962' date='Oct 16...   Oct 17 2013, 09:22 PM
Type 47   [quote name='carr914' post='1941962' date='Oct 1...   Oct 17 2013, 09:33 PM
mgp4591   [quote name='carr914' post='1942445' date='Oct 17...   Oct 18 2013, 08:27 AM
carr914   AMX Proto - it had a Rumble Seat! :beer2:   Oct 17 2013, 09:37 PM
Type 47   AMX Proto - it had a Rumble Seat! :beer2: ...   Oct 17 2013, 09:53 PM
draganc   blablabla, the Porsche has a bigger pu$...   Oct 17 2013, 10:52 PM
DBCooper   blablabla, the Porsche has a bigger pu$...   Oct 18 2013, 08:13 AM


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