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> A brand new MPS!, $610 !!!!! Wow!
JawjaPorsche
post Jan 15 2014, 07:07 AM
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Never seen a new one. I guess this is the going rate? Like how they spelled PROSCHE in the ad, not once but twice!


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Prosche-914-Fuel-I...851&vxp=mtr
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post Jan 16 2014, 01:41 PM
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You can set up something that will vary the inductive coupling on two pair of wires depending on a vacuum signal? For that cheap? Color me impressed; I wasn't able to come up with a decent way to do that, even just brainstorming.


I'll give up my secrets and work with anyone that wants to pitch in.
If you used a modern Manifold pressure sensor like McMark used with an arduino:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...amp;hl=manifold

Those sensors just put out a voltage that is proportional to Man. Press.
You could sense the voltage with a $7 microcontroller with Analog input to read it:
http://www.dfrobot.com/index.php?route=pro...product_id=1075
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.dfrobot.com-10819-1389901285.1.JPG)

(Or McMark's Arduino would work just fine)

Here is the diagram of the MPS output signal wrt the input signal
courtesy of pbanders site(http://members.rennlist.com/pbanders/ecu.htm#PL):

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/members.rennlist.com-10819-1389901286.2.gif)

The microcontroller would sense the TL trigger signal (this falling edge identifies the start of a injector pulse), then the micro would have an output that simulates the secondary output signal.
The beauty is that the stock ECU system senses when this secondary signal recovers from a large negative voltage and reaches -0.7 volts and then stops the injection pulse.

The microcontroller could just use a digital signal output to simulate the secondary signal.
It would just need to go negative at the start of the TL trigger signal, then return to zero volts when it wants the injection pulse to end.
The ECU would sense this (essentially instantaneous) transition from -5.0 Volts to 0.0 volts as the transition across -0.7 Volts and it would end the injector pulse.

A second analog input to the micro could be a temp sensor.

The micro would use the Manifold pressure & the temp to adjust the injector pulse width.

Since the code on the micro can be changed via a basic USB connector, you would change the internal software parameters with any PC.

I am not sure of the amplitudes of the voltages in the signal diagram above, so the drive circuitry might require some external discrete components to generate those voltage levels.

McMarks gadget from the thread posted above gets you 90% of the way there.
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post Jan 16 2014, 05:00 PM
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The beauty is that the stock ECU system senses when this secondary signal recovers from a large negative voltage and reaches -0.7 volts and then stops the injection pulse.


It just senses voltage? Heck, that's a ton and a half easier than I had been thinking!

When can we expect your prototype? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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JawjaPorsche   A brand new MPS!   Jan 15 2014, 07:07 AM
type47   Unless my eyes deceive me, aren't those cheese...   Jan 15 2014, 07:15 AM
Cap'n Krusty   Unless my eyes deceive me, aren't those chees...   Jan 15 2014, 09:44 AM
type47   It appears you are unaware of the fact Unaware...   Jan 15 2014, 11:43 AM
SLITS   Unless my eyes deceive me, aren't those chee...   Jan 16 2014, 11:22 AM
SLITS   That unit has been "rebuilt" at some poi...   Jan 15 2014, 09:45 AM
tod914   When still available, I recall they nearly doubled...   Jan 15 2014, 11:44 AM
turk22   $610 + 14.95 shipping.... :WTF: talk about...   Jan 15 2014, 07:33 PM
Racer Chris   $610 + 14.95 shipping.... :WTF: talk abou...   Jan 16 2014, 08:00 AM
ClayPerrine   That is for a 73-76 2.0L, so if it is NOS, it may ...   Jan 16 2014, 09:11 AM
JamesM   That is for a 73-76 2.0L, so if it is NOS, it may...   Jan 16 2014, 10:48 PM
ClayPerrine   That is for a 73-76 2.0L, so if it is NOS, it ma...   Jan 16 2014, 10:52 PM
JamesM   [quote name='JamesM' post='1984402' date='Jan 16 ...   Jan 16 2014, 10:57 PM
a914luvr   That's the sillyness that is now ebay. I'v...   Jan 16 2014, 11:09 AM
rmdinmd   I did post the question. he said it was NOS and h...   Jan 16 2014, 11:52 AM
stugray   Just out of curiosity: How many would be intereste...   Jan 16 2014, 11:52 AM
mrholland2   Just out of curiosity: How many would be interest...   Jan 16 2014, 01:13 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   Stop this hearsay nonsense and don't get our h...   Jan 16 2014, 03:13 PM
saigon71   Just out of curiosity: How many would be interest...   Jan 16 2014, 09:37 PM
Dave_Darling   You can set up something that will vary the induct...   Jan 16 2014, 12:56 PM
stugray   I'll give up my secrets and work with anyone...   Jan 16 2014, 01:41 PM
Dave_Darling   The beauty is that the stock ECU system senses wh...   Jan 16 2014, 05:00 PM
stugray   You have a car with Carbs AND a manifold pressu...   Jan 16 2014, 01:42 PM
KELTY360   You have a car with Carbs AND a manifold press...   Jan 16 2014, 04:05 PM
mrholland2   You have a car with Carbs AND a manifold press...   Jan 16 2014, 10:42 PM
Racer Chris   Its my understanding that BR has a working prototy...   Jan 16 2014, 03:24 PM
stugray   well I DID just order the little microcontroller...   Jan 16 2014, 06:16 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   I am sure you can find a a test mule somewhere in ...   Jan 16 2014, 09:30 PM
brant   I have a running diet test mule about 5 blocks fro...   Jan 16 2014, 09:45 PM


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