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| EdwardBlume |
Oct 12 2004, 12:54 AM
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Oh my God...... what a hard lesson. Its amazing the crap we eat and the pressures put on kids to perpetuate it.
This truly is an epidemic based on cash over ethics. If you haven't seen the movie- take a look.... |
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| Dr Evil |
Oct 12 2004, 08:27 PM
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Took a while to calm down. I was in MattR mode when I first read some of this and then I thought, "well, maybe they just don't have the same perspective." Being in the psych/medical scholastic game I get to see a lot of research. I too at first was like, "shit, woman, exercise some self restraint!" I have since learned the error of my ways. First: obesity can be genetically linked, but the mass publicization of such a phenomenon seems to be causing many to adopt this excuse when it is not nearly as prevalent. The secoind thing I would like to mention is that, just as someone here already stated, obesity is a symptom of a behavioral condition. Now who among you would like to go out and crucify some mannic depressive people with me? I'm sure someone just thought, "thats different, that is due to chemical imballance." Ok, how about doing some anxiety bashing? Nothing is more fun than fucking with people that suffer from anxiety (and no, it is not all chemical), right? I thinkthat you are all falling into a sort of prejudice based on the media portrail of fat people, and your own personal contact with fat people. It would be pretty impossible for you to do a random sample, in your day to day life, of fat people that would yeild a reliable demographic break down. Prejudicing is a natural thing, it kept us from eating the red barries that killed Throg back in the cave days. But, to not use your mind to decide that people that have a weight problem may need help instead of riddicule seems to me to be lazy and analagous to what you are trying to accuse the fat people of. Yes the woman with the 44oz bitching about no 60oz tha has the extra 200lbs is a burden on our system, but dont you think that she would have a better time changing her habbits if she looked out at the world and saw encourage ment, not belittlement? Your contempt is very obvious, even if you try to conceal because it is accepted in our culture to persecute the fat kid. Thus, even if you are not thinking about the extra 200lbs, they will likely percieve you as doing so because of social norms.
Saying someone is fat because they have no self control is tantamount to saying that someone cant read because they dont understand the words. It is a circular deffinition that accomplishes nothing. I have fat friends and I encourage them with every attempt that they make and every day I have to make my voice louder than all of "those people" that wish to blame and discourage. "Just change" is a suggestion that offers no mode of enactment. I undrstand emotions, and when I filter out the disenfranchised feelings that some of you have I still see reasonable people that could do so much good with these calories that they are burning inthe course of being harsh and judgmental. Eating right is as hard as quitting smoking or drugs for some (many) people. Be your brothers keeper. Don't focus on those that are not helping themselves. They are what they are and if you can't be supportive then be silent. For those that wish to change give them every encouragement that you can afford them. To those of you who have lost weight, I respect, admire, and applaud your effort. To those of you affraid to try, I will be here for support when youare ready. Its amazing the psychological power of a thought, or a word. On a lighter note, I am eating tato chips with dip and drinking tomato juice (with vodka) as I type this. 6'2" 215. Moderation. I don't do it every night. |
Rob Ways Supersize Me Oct 12 2004, 12:54 AM
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Root_Werks Never seen it, but would like to. I think it is a... Oct 12 2004, 10:16 AM
Rhodes71/914 My kids are still pretty young 3 and 9 months, but... Oct 12 2004, 10:29 AM
fiid My wife and I were in the Wait List Line at Sundan... Oct 12 2004, 10:35 AM
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Root_Werks <... Oct 12 2004, 10:54 AM
Bleyseng I have always hated those fast food places except ... Oct 12 2004, 11:01 AM
Root_Werks Last week my wife and I rode our bicycles into dow... Oct 12 2004, 11:16 AM
Meredith I'm finding that as I leave the teenage years ... Oct 12 2004, 11:26 AM
Jenny My family never ate out. Not family restaurants, n... Oct 12 2004, 11:32 AM
monkei My company makes a lot of bits and pieces for diab... Oct 12 2004, 11:36 AM
Root_Werks
bryanthompson We don't need the government or some propagand... Oct 12 2004, 12:16 PM
fiid
Root_Werks Genetics doesn't have anything to do with it. ... Oct 12 2004, 01:34 PM
Cloudbuster Now that I'm done with my McSausage and OJ...
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J P Stein We're mammals.
Genetics has everything to do w... Oct 12 2004, 02:03 PM
itsa914
Part Pricer OK. I’m going to come right out and say it. “F... Oct 12 2004, 02:19 PM
Root_Werks ... Oct 12 2004, 02:56 PM
Part Pricer ... Oct 12 2004, 03:08 PM
double-a i caught part of an interesting program about diet... Oct 12 2004, 03:21 PM
itsa914 My last post on this, honest. :D
First Mer, :a... Oct 12 2004, 03:32 PM
MattR ... Oct 12 2004, 04:04 PM
vortrex I moved to philly (unhealthy) from san francisco (... Oct 12 2004, 04:24 PM
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MattR So do you look at people like my brother who were ... Oct 12 2004, 04:41 PM
Mueller
MattR I was responding to paul heery's comment on pe... Oct 12 2004, 04:53 PM
vortrex I swear all the fatties in the US should live in j... Oct 12 2004, 04:58 PM
F4i I don't normally jump into these but I have so... Oct 12 2004, 05:07 PM
Aaron Cox in the old days, it was a sign of wealth being fat... Oct 12 2004, 05:52 PM
Aaron Cox oh yeah, i have HIGH blood pressure too. im not fa... Oct 12 2004, 05:56 PM
vortrex well 6'3" and 215 is not big. I think we are ... Oct 12 2004, 06:09 PM
Cap'n Krusty I'm getting here a bit late. Hadda stop for a... Oct 12 2004, 06:20 PM
SirAndy
TimT Wow we have us a "discussion"
Lawrence
Meredith I agree with you, Lawrence. Oct 12 2004, 07:01 PM
scottb mer said i should post this if things got to stres... Oct 12 2004, 07:03 PM
Rhodes71/914 <... Oct 12 2004, 07:06 PM
SirAndy
scottb puppy is normal, my kids are abnormally thin......... Oct 12 2004, 07:16 PM
soloracer I haven't seen the movie yet but read somewher... Oct 12 2004, 07:19 PM
scottb parker is a rescue dog. my wife was on a mission ... Oct 12 2004, 07:33 PM
Lou W Damn, my jelly doughnut dripped all over my keyboa... Oct 12 2004, 07:42 PM
vortrex there are exceptions to every rule in life, but mo... Oct 12 2004, 08:52 PM
Dr Evil And it pleases you on some subcontious level to po... Oct 12 2004, 08:55 PM
vortrex if I could snatch the twinkies from their chubby h... Oct 12 2004, 09:28 PM
Meredith Anymore puppy pictures? It seemed to work for a l... Oct 12 2004, 09:37 PM
SpecialK How ironic, "Why can't we be friends" by ... Oct 12 2004, 09:40 PM
Aaron Cox just delete this thread :angry: Oct 12 2004, 09:43 PM
Meredith Me and my sister's dog... Oct 12 2004, 09:44 PM
vortrex here is the puppy I bought my mom for xmas! Oct 12 2004, 09:45 PM
Meredith My dog and my sister's. I know they're no... Oct 12 2004, 09:45 PM
Dr Evil nice one, more! I feel better. Oct 12 2004, 09:45 PM
Aaron Cox i got 2 golden retrievers Oct 12 2004, 09:46 PM
vortrex one more.. Oct 12 2004, 09:46 PM
Meredith <... Oct 12 2004, 09:46 PM
Aaron Cox ... Oct 12 2004, 09:47 PM
Meredith One more. I promise I'm done now.
And plea... Oct 12 2004, 09:52 PM
Rhodes71/914 Here ya Mer go my son and our dog a couple of chri... Oct 12 2004, 09:54 PM
Rhodes71/914 oops heres the pic Oct 12 2004, 09:56 PM
campbellcj I agree that some people just have no self-respect... Oct 12 2004, 09:57 PM
Meredith ... Oct 13 2004, 04:39 AM
SpecialK :toke: :toke: :beer3: ......Oh..now I get it. :D Oct 13 2004, 04:46 AM
SpecialK They say a health diet and exercise can add ten ye... Oct 13 2004, 04:54 AM
Howard Eat anything I want, carry 25 pounds I don't n... Oct 13 2004, 02:35 PM
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