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Jason 914-6
post Apr 25 2017, 01:57 AM
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Hi might be a dumb question but how fast do you think a 914 with a six or four in could go I'm talking like land speed fast. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/evilgrin.gif)

Not a race car with spoilers/wings etc. but a narrow body low slung with tall gearing.
Any thoughts other than I'm (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif)
But the Gt class here in Australia is a soft record ( 2lt class and 3lt) and well !!!!!!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif)
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Andyrew
post Apr 25 2017, 11:07 AM
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All the simulations I have done with my current setup say I should be able to get close to 200mph at my high power setting and current gearing...

Will I ever do that? Not likely...

Most I've done is 150, and the rear end gets extremely light at that speed.

Serious aero would be required (Full undertray front to rear) if someone was serious about going big speeds (180+) in a 914.
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QUOTE(Andyrew @ Apr 25 2017, 10:07 AM) *

All the simulations I have done with my current setup say I should be able to get close to 200mph at my high power setting and current gearing...

Will I ever do that? Not likely...

Most I've done is 150, and the rear end gets extremely light at that speed.

Serious aero would be required (Full undertray front to rear) if someone was serious about going big speeds (180+) in a 914.


What calculators are you using. I can tell you from our experience at Bonneville, using tire size, gearing and RPM to calculate top speed is a complete waste of time. The things that matter most are frontal area, CD of the car, weight. With those numbers you can calculate - or use on line calculators - wallace racing has all sorts of them, to calculate top speed.

Air resistance kills you at high speed. To double any given speed - you will need 8X the horespower, so once you get up 150-200, the wind resistance is absolutely gobbling up your horsepower. In that case, you probably don't have enough ponies to get to gear/rpm calculated speed, just not enough HP.
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QUOTE(Calwaterbear @ Apr 25 2017, 05:10 PM) *

QUOTE(Andyrew @ Apr 25 2017, 10:07 AM) *

All the simulations I have done with my current setup say I should be able to get close to 200mph at my high power setting and current gearing...

Will I ever do that? Not likely...

Most I've done is 150, and the rear end gets extremely light at that speed.

Serious aero would be required (Full undertray front to rear) if someone was serious about going big speeds (180+) in a 914.


What calculators are you using. I can tell you from our experience at Bonneville, using tire size, gearing and RPM to calculate top speed is a complete waste of time. The things that matter most are frontal area, CD of the car, weight. With those numbers you can calculate - or use on line calculators - wallace racing has all sorts of them, to calculate top speed.

Air resistance kills you at high speed. To double any given speed - you will need 8X the horespower, so once you get up 150-200, the wind resistance is absolutely gobbling up your horsepower. In that case, you probably don't have enough ponies to get to gear/rpm calculated speed, just not enough HP.



Truthfully modern video games that take CD, weight, power, tire size, ect into calculation. Forza motorsports to be exact.

My gearing I believe is limited to 205 or better but after recreating my car with the exact speeds it actually does in testing puting in the appropriate gear ratios with the final drive adjusted for my larger tire diameter I seem to only get up to about 197ish when I give the car about 530hp (my estimated high power figure).


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Jason 914-6   Realistic Top speed of a 914   Apr 25 2017, 01:57 AM
rgalla9146   I know that windshield trim and roofs depart the c...   Apr 25 2017, 04:37 AM
6freak   I know that windshield trim and roofs depart the ...   Apr 25 2017, 08:01 AM
SirAndy   A 914 is not a good choice for Land speed racing...   Apr 25 2017, 11:27 AM
Tom_T   Well, I've had my dead stock 73 2.0 /4 with st...   Apr 25 2017, 07:53 AM
76-914   The stock car's rear end becomes very light at...   Apr 25 2017, 08:29 AM
Steve   Besides aerodynamics, check the trans gear ratios....   Apr 25 2017, 08:30 AM
RobW   90 is a nice safe speed   Apr 25 2017, 08:37 AM
Robnxious   90 is a nice safe speed I agree wholeheartedly ...   Apr 25 2017, 08:58 AM
Dave_Darling   A stock 914 will do 120 MPH, given some room to ge...   Apr 25 2017, 09:41 AM
horizontally-opposed   There are much better—and safer, cheaper—choic...   Apr 25 2017, 10:25 AM
6freak   There are much better—and safer, cheaper—choi...   Apr 25 2017, 02:42 PM
mepstein   Use the engine from this 293 mph car. https://m.y...   Apr 25 2017, 10:57 AM
Andyrew   All the simulations I have done with my current se...   Apr 25 2017, 11:07 AM
Calwaterbear   All the simulations I have done with my current s...   Apr 25 2017, 06:10 PM
SirAndy   The things that matter most are frontal area, CD o...   Apr 25 2017, 06:43 PM
Andyrew   All the simulations I have done with my current ...   Apr 25 2017, 07:11 PM
ConeDodger   All the simulations I have done with my current s...   May 4 2017, 03:09 PM
SirAndy   Hi might be a dumb question but how fast do you th...   Apr 25 2017, 11:25 AM
naro914   I know Tony (Cracker) has done about 156 in his......   Apr 25 2017, 01:12 PM
Cracker   LOL Bob...you always get the 6 and 5 backwards (16...   May 5 2017, 08:02 PM
naro914   LOL Bob...you always get the 6 and 5 backwards (1...   May 5 2017, 09:09 PM
Cracker   LOL Bob...that was from our first trip to Road Atl...   May 6 2017, 04:39 AM
r_towle   Gearing will not be cheap. You might want to look ...   Apr 25 2017, 03:28 PM
mepstein   Gearing will not be cheap. You might want to look...   Apr 25 2017, 05:48 PM
Calwaterbear   Gearing will not be cheap. You might want to look...   Apr 25 2017, 06:12 PM
mepstein   Gearing will not be cheap. You might want to loo...   Apr 25 2017, 06:33 PM
Mark Henry   Not a race car with spoilers/wings etc. but a na...   Apr 25 2017, 05:26 PM
MoveQik   I've had my 3.2 with my stock 901 up to 130mph...   Apr 25 2017, 06:00 PM
Madswede   I've had my 3.2 with my stock 901 up to 130mp...   Apr 26 2017, 10:49 PM
Jason 914-6   Thanks for the input, If I run as a G/GT its an op...   Apr 25 2017, 08:15 PM
Andyrew   The following body and chassis modifications may...   Apr 25 2017, 09:44 PM
Jason 914-6   The following body and chassis modifications ma...   Apr 30 2017, 06:39 PM
iamchappy   I'm glad my car is gear limited, red line come...   Apr 25 2017, 08:45 PM
Coondog   I just want to change lanes on the freeway without...   Apr 25 2017, 09:49 PM
whitetwinturbo   .............there's a reason the tail is so H...   Apr 25 2017, 10:28 PM
ottox914   Doesn't the ultimate top speed depend on how h...   Apr 26 2017, 12:57 PM
Zippy69   Had the LS6 V8 914 up to 155 MPH at Pocono at 11:2...   Apr 27 2017, 02:20 PM
6freak   Had the LS6 V8 914 up to 155 MPH at Pocono at 11:...   May 1 2017, 08:50 AM
sechszylinder   Some time ago, I drove with approx. 118 mph on a g...   May 4 2017, 09:43 AM
SirAndy   Some time ago, I drove with approx. 118 mph on a g...   May 4 2017, 11:09 AM
sechszylinder   Some time ago, I drove with approx. 118 mph on a ...   May 4 2017, 12:08 PM
6freak   Some time ago, I drove with approx. 118 mph on a ...   May 4 2017, 02:55 PM
Treknwil   I had my stock 1970 1.7L up to 125, but it felt li...   May 4 2017, 12:02 PM
AZBanks   High speed is easy in a 914. You just need the pro...   May 4 2017, 10:04 PM
Al Meredith   I'm not sure Jake Raby still reads this site. ...   May 5 2017, 05:01 PM


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