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> California Legality of 914 engine swap
wiredwrx
post Oct 28 2004, 03:57 PM
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Hello All,

I am looking for people, specifically in California, who have gone through the process of registering, insuring, and smog testing (If it is needed) a 914 with an engine swap.

I recently read about the change to law that says post 1975 cars, no matter how old are not smog exempt, so I plan on getting a pre 1975, or whatever year I need to get, to avoid that. But, what about registering the car. Do I have to see the state ref before I can get the registration. Do I even need to go to the State ref to get signed off on. DO I have to notify the DMV of the engine swap (I have a friend doing an engine swap, and his research has determined that the DMV must be notified of the engine swap)

I am looking for any information people have.

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post Oct 29 2004, 01:29 PM
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I lived in the Midwest for 15 years. The regulations vary wildly from place to place, even within a given state.

For example, when I left St. Louis 10 years ago, the law at the time required a safety AND emissions inspection EVERY YEAR (CA is every other year), and there was no cutoff for old cars (until 1968, when it's only a safety inspection). The safety inspection checks things like brakes, steering, lights, etc. Emissions was a tailpipe only test. I'm told this has since changed, but I've heard conflicting reports about whether it's more lax, or tighter. Meanwhile, my father, in rural Missouri, has no inspection at all, of any kind, at any time.

Under the law that existed 10 years ago, it was actually HARDER to license a 914 in MO than it is now in CA. And CA is not the toughest anymore. AZ still requires smog checks on all cars back to 1968, and it's a visual test, just like CA. It's considerably harder to own a 914 in AZ than in CA.

Meanwhile, in CA, yes, the weather is very nice. No salt on the roads and a culture devoted to it means seeing 30 year old cars is something that happens several times a day, every day. My daily driver was made in 1967, and no one bats an eyelash at it here, or the fact that I drive it every day. There are six significant shops in the SF Bay Area alone that handle Alfa Romeo, a marque that hasn't sold a car in the US since 1994, and rarely sold more than 1000 a year at their best (viz, there are fewer Alfas in the US than 914s...). We do pay for all of this niceness with some regulations that don't exist elsewhere, but more directly with high prices for everything, esp. housing. There are good reasons to live here, and good reasons to live elsewhere.
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wiredwrx   California Legality of 914 engine swap   Oct 28 2004, 03:57 PM
scruz914   I had an issue with an engine swap in a VW Bus sev...   Oct 28 2004, 04:10 PM
Mueller   "legally", one is supposed to only replace the mot...   Oct 28 2004, 04:14 PM
Mueller   anyone know where to find the correct information ...   Oct 28 2004, 04:20 PM
Dominic   Why the F@%K would you tell anything like this to ...   Oct 28 2004, 04:26 PM
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Cloudbuster   Never volunteer information. Get a '75 or ear...   Oct 28 2004, 04:39 PM
bob91403   A lot of times, when the DMV inspects a vehicle, t...   Oct 28 2004, 04:58 PM
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Mueller   legally it is the sellers resp. to get the car smo...   Oct 28 2004, 05:06 PM
bob91403   If the car is '76 or later, it must pass smog ...   Oct 28 2004, 05:07 PM
Mueller   another "great" California thing...even by filling...   Oct 28 2004, 05:09 PM
Jake Raby   The only way to really beat the system is to move ...   Oct 28 2004, 05:16 PM
andys   I bought a '75 car, and registered it through ...   Oct 28 2004, 05:35 PM
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scruz914   I think this applies to engine swaps in our cars: ...   Oct 28 2004, 06:18 PM
Cap'n Krusty   In CA, the smog goes with the year of the car or e...   Oct 28 2004, 06:22 PM
bob91403   ...   Oct 28 2004, 06:44 PM
scruz914   ...   Oct 28 2004, 06:56 PM
Headrage   A week ago I went to the DMV with the pink on a ...   Oct 28 2004, 09:24 PM
lapuwali   The Cap'n has it correct according to my readi...   Oct 29 2004, 12:21 AM
skline   The engine I put in is around a 1966 or 67 I think...   Oct 29 2004, 07:54 AM
andys   ...   Oct 29 2004, 09:56 AM
Steve Thacker   I have to go with Jake on this one. The weather is...   Oct 29 2004, 11:05 AM
bob91403   Not too bad. He just got his Hummer converted to h...   Oct 29 2004, 11:11 AM
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bob91403   <...   Oct 29 2004, 11:41 AM
skline   :agree: In fact, come to visit us for the WCC 05 ...   Oct 29 2004, 11:43 AM
lapuwali   I lived in the Midwest for 15 years. The regulati...   Oct 29 2004, 01:29 PM
wiredwrx   <...   Oct 29 2004, 05:11 PM
wiredwrx   <...   Oct 29 2004, 05:14 PM
Mueller   so what engine choices have you made for your conv...   Oct 29 2004, 05:16 PM
wiredwrx     Oct 29 2004, 05:21 PM
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Dad Roberts   Michael...When I decided in 93 to get my 1968 V8 V...   Oct 29 2004, 05:51 PM
morphenspectra   thank god i dont have to deal with that kinda crap...   Oct 29 2004, 05:52 PM
Steve   When I registered my 75 with a 3.2 six in it they ...   Oct 29 2004, 06:08 PM


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