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post Jul 7 2017, 06:37 PM
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Beyond the cheating scandal...does anyone have direct ownership experience? Are there years or models to stay away from? I am thinking of a used car for my son - heading to college next month. Thanks in advance!

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post Jul 8 2017, 06:27 PM
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Greg - How do you - why do you have so many cars man?!?!?! Any issues with the DSG?

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QUOTE(Cracker @ Jul 8 2017, 08:27 PM) *

Greg - How do you - why do you have so many cars man?!?!?! Any issues with the DSG?

LOL...not simultaneous, over the years, my friend*.

That DSG car was a venture into something new...I'd heard very good things about it and wanted to try one, so I leased the car. I enjoyed it so much as a street car that I bought it off-lease. It's truly a ground-breaking transaxle, and converted me to the mindset that for the daily driver I'll probably never buy a manual again. It's really that good. 68k miles to date, I did the 40k service myself, and <knock, knock> zero troubles to date.

Of course, I'd prefer nothing like that in my "fun" cars such as the 914s (1 street, 1 race) and the Honda FG I race. I've raced a DSG-equipped car and liked it, but it takes some getting used to. I've been racing manuals for 30+ years and it's just awkward, kinda like learning to left-foot brake (which I've yet to be fully comfy with).

There was a time there where VW quality sucked balls; we're talking late 90s to mid-00s, whatever that generation was (Mk 4?) That's the generation(s) that all the Honda fanbois point to when they try to convince everyone how good their EGs end EKs are (and I've owned a few of those too, including my fav, the DC Integra). But today's Mk 6 and Mk7 cars are very good cars. All suffer from the same problems most modern-day cars do, and that's complexity; one cannot get today's luxury and efficiency without it. If that bothers you then go find a 70s or 80s car with one of those last bastions of carburetors.

On the other hand, if simple basic boring appliance transportation is the desire, something for which you will not be passionate and will have no hesitation to throw away/replace, then the basic Toyota Camry/Honda Accord/Nissan Altima is, seriously, the way to go.

I've done my best to never drive something boring. So far, so good.

GA

* Other things I've owned:

- '76 Dodge Aspen wagon. Ugh. Though it has the wood side vinyl, so there's that...
- c '76 Dodge short bed pickup with 4-on-the-floor and 225 slant-6. Barely pulled the open trailer with race car efficiently, but got the job done. Girlfriends were unappreciative of the vinyl bench seats...
- Non-turbo Dodge Shelby Charger race car. Good for the times, that 2.2L engine is pretty decent. But basic tech and a Dodge chassis...
- '87 Shelby CSX race car and daily driver (I was in school). 2.2L turbo engine and the chassis had a terrible problem of fatiguing at the firewall. But it won us a good number of races.
'91 Chevy Subruban. Replaced the slant-6 Dodge but fuel economy was so terrible, and tank so small, that we had to carry Jerry cans of fuel in the back to make it through Oklahoma in the middle of the night.
'86 Toyota Supra turbo. Nice GT cruiser but yawn.
'03 Ford E-350 5L. Couldn't pull a 24' enclosed
'03 Ford E-350 non-turbo diesel cargo van. Barely pulled the open trailer efficiently.
'94 Miata. Great little car, but...Miata.
'91 Toyota MR2. Fun car. Old Camry engine sub-optimal, shoulda replaced it with something better, like the six.
'99 E350 passenger can with the 6.8L V-10. Pulled the enclosed fine but holy hell did it suck fuel, like 7mpg
'92 Nissan NX2000, 1 street, 1 race. Fantastic little car. Shoulda have kept the street one.
'95 Integra GS-R. Fantastic race car, should have bought one of these as a new street car in the 90s.
'00 Ford Excursion Powerstroke diesel. Fantastic truck, did everything I wanted, and I comfort. Sold it after 300k miles and replaced with a used '01 PSD Excursion that I still own.
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Cracker   OT: Volkswagen ownership experience?   Jul 7 2017, 06:37 PM
Racer   I bought new a 2005.5 Jetta, base model (they call...   Jul 7 2017, 07:00 PM
Justinp71   I bought new a 2005.5 Jetta, base model (they cal...   Jul 12 2017, 06:30 PM
Porschef   Interesting, I was just looking at Car Complaints ...   Jul 7 2017, 07:05 PM
injunmort   pain...... then more pain, whats your point?   Jul 7 2017, 07:31 PM
Montreal914   Bough a brand new Jetta 1.8T in 2001 for my wife a...   Jul 7 2017, 07:32 PM
dlee6204   I had an 05 GTI 1.8t with tiptronic. I owned it f...   Jul 7 2017, 07:47 PM
Gmanscott55   I have / had a 2008 Golf R32. My son has it now a...   Jul 7 2017, 07:56 PM
mzalanka   Owned a 2006 GTI (MkV) from 08-16. Great car to dr...   Jul 7 2017, 08:14 PM
RickS   https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J62-Z3fIKOU I have ...   Jul 7 2017, 08:09 PM
Optimusglen   Recently sold a 2014 Jetta with the 1.8 direct inj...   Jul 7 2017, 08:32 PM
76-914   As mentioned above Toyota and Honda are both Aces....   Jul 7 2017, 08:45 PM
Cracker   Thanks everyone...I do not make it a habit of gamb...   Jul 7 2017, 09:00 PM
Montreal914   Thanks everyone...I do not make it a habit of gam...   Jul 7 2017, 09:25 PM
Cracker   Thank you...I will. We have zero accidents, zero t...   Jul 7 2017, 09:34 PM
tomeric914   Base Toyota Camry should equal low insurance rates...   Jul 7 2017, 10:23 PM
thelogo   I cant help but chime in here :beer3: My budd...   Jul 7 2017, 11:58 PM
PatrickB   If you're looking for OLD stuff... stay away f...   Jul 8 2017, 04:52 AM
Porschef   Although I posted earlier about some issues with t...   Jul 8 2017, 06:17 AM
Mark Henry   I own the last year VW made a quality car..... 196...   Jul 8 2017, 06:40 AM
falcor75   I'm on my third VW, its a 2011 TDI DSG, love i...   Jul 8 2017, 07:50 AM
Cracker   The reason I even brought it up (allot of ignoranc...   Jul 8 2017, 08:46 AM
mlindner   I've had many VW's, last four a 2000 Jetta...   Jul 8 2017, 08:58 AM
poorsche914   Whatever you do, STAY AWAY FROM THE AUTOMATICS :wo...   Jul 8 2017, 09:29 AM
ThePaintedMan   We just had a big discussion on this in the Sandbo...   Jul 8 2017, 09:35 AM
Cracker   **Update** So I stopped by the home...they still ...   Jul 8 2017, 12:35 PM
poorsche914   Automatic transmission is the biggest concern. ...   Jul 8 2017, 12:40 PM
falcor75   Find out with engine it is and what gearbox. The g...   Jul 8 2017, 12:49 PM
Cracker   It is the 2.0 FSI motor with 200 hp and a 6-Speed ...   Jul 8 2017, 01:12 PM
falcor75   Thats the prefered combo then, the DSG needs servi...   Jul 8 2017, 01:53 PM
pete-stevers   I have a 1959 single cab, I would buy it all over ...   Jul 8 2017, 02:01 PM
Cracker   OK. I just spoke to a local VW dealer; the timing ...   Jul 8 2017, 02:10 PM
mepstein   Wife had a fox when I met her (gave her ghia to he...   Jul 8 2017, 02:10 PM
GregAmy   '61 Beetle '68 Type 3 Squareback '77 T...   Jul 8 2017, 06:21 PM
Cracker   Greg - How do you - why do you have so many cars m...   Jul 8 2017, 06:27 PM
GregAmy   Greg - How do you - why do you have so many cars ...   Jul 8 2017, 07:55 PM
nditiz1   As far as MK 4s go I have owned 3. My first was a...   Jul 8 2017, 08:01 PM
mlindner   If you can get it for $6,000 or under I'd...   Jul 9 2017, 06:19 AM
Cracker   They did offer it to me at 6 but I am now waiting...   Jul 9 2017, 07:09 AM
Cracker   Kind of a bummer: The timing belt and trans servic...   Jul 11 2017, 02:51 PM
euro911   My first H2O VW was an '80 Scirocco - loved it...   Jul 11 2017, 03:02 PM
Ed_Turbo   This video will help: VW MKIV Common Problems   Jul 11 2017, 04:28 PM
Cracker   LOL. If the model I was looking was a Mk 4 then ma...   Jul 11 2017, 04:56 PM
90quattrocoupe   You should have bought it. Most of the 2007 GLIs ...   Jul 14 2017, 06:19 PM


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