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> What are higher powered 914s like?, I've never had the chance to drive one.
anthony
post May 15 2003, 02:46 PM
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Like every 914 owner I've been thinking I want more power. You know, I'd like to at least be able to smoke a Mini Cooper S or a Honda Civic Si without breaking a sweat.

I've been collecting parts to build a 2056 2L engine. I keep wondering if it's worth it.

Or, will I still want more hp in the end?

What kind of horsepower does it take to make a 914 into a 0-60 8 second car (Civic Si), a 7 second car (Mini S), or a 6 second car (S2000)???

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post May 16 2003, 11:16 AM
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I have two original 914-6s. One is bone stock, other than S struts and alloy calipers; I hated the brakes. It has Mahle gas burners, with 195 65 15 A008P tires. I was tempted to hot rod that one, but resisted it because I spent so long to find a nice low mileage (30,000) 6.

So I bought the second car with the express intent of making it evil. I found one which had steel flares added early in its life, 7 and 8 BBS wheels, and when I got it, it had a 67 2.0 911 engine in it, so should have been around 130HP. (I also have the original 2.0 for this car). This definitely had more poke, but need more.

So I built up a 3.0 SC engine with 9.5:1 Mahle pistons, MSD, 40MM webers, E cams, so it is probably around 225 HP. Matched that with a side shifter with Paul Guard torsen diff, and redid the brakes and suspension with Bilsteins and alloy calipers, and a 19MM AJUSA sway bar. I have 15 x 7 and 8 Fuchs with 205 and 225/50's Pirellis.

This car rocks, but it is an animal. I can break the tires loose in first and second, and you definitely module the trottle in a corner, and never nail it while turning. Right now I am running a sport muffler which has to go, as it is too rauchous. It understeers a bit, so I am going to add 8 inchers to the front as well with 225s.

The interesting thig about having the more powerful car, is it makes me appreciate the stock car more as well. It is much more balanced, more civilised and generally more relaxing to drive. Its quiter, and rides way better. It also requires an entirely different technique to drive fast, since it is a momentum car, and rewards being very smooth. The 3.0 requires more manhandling and is generally a handful; so smooth is also best. But because your trying to get the power to the ground.

So I would say understand what you want to do with the car before you embark on irreversible changes. Every step towards increasing the capabilities of the car in terms of performance, will almost always carry a corresponding trade off in civility. So if it is your daily driver, you might want to think twice about the compromise. But if you can count on something else for every day, then adding power to it will defintitley cause the grin factor to go up.
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anthony   What are higher powered 914s like?   May 15 2003, 02:46 PM
J P Stein   Wanna "do" an S2000? Forget about a 4 pooper. You...   May 15 2003, 02:56 PM
Jeff Krieger   Couldn't you just cheat and install nitrous? B...   May 15 2003, 03:30 PM
cha914   I have a 2056 w/130hp to the flywheel...I think it...   May 15 2003, 03:31 PM
Ferg   Having just moved from a 2.0 four to a 2.7 six I c...   May 15 2003, 03:32 PM
campbellcj   I recently got a ride in an ~1800lb open cockpit 9...   May 15 2003, 03:52 PM
Don Wohlfarth   Anthony, it may be cheaper to buy a S2000 instead ...   May 15 2003, 04:27 PM
anthony   I hear ya Don. A low mileage 180hp 911 SC for arou...   May 15 2003, 04:36 PM
Aaron Cox   v-8 sleeper? :D ive seen a rotary powered teene...   May 15 2003, 04:42 PM
Blynes   I don't know how much power my car has exactly...   May 15 2003, 04:55 PM
Aaron Cox   whadda bout a turbo? didnt someone on this list ha...   May 15 2003, 04:57 PM
Aaron Cox   was it turboshyu?   May 15 2003, 04:58 PM
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mskala   You shouldn't be using 0-60 numbers to compare...   May 15 2003, 07:50 PM
TimT   My 911 is 200 hp on a good day, it weighs about #...   May 15 2003, 07:58 PM
krk   <...   May 15 2003, 09:47 PM
campbellcj     May 15 2003, 10:01 PM
tesserra   I had a '76 2.0, bone stock. The slowest 914. ...   May 15 2003, 10:51 PM
Don Wohlfarth   Kim, when I said mistakenly that refers to "been t...   May 16 2003, 09:40 AM
need4speed   Well, the other thing is - the 914 isn't reall...   May 16 2003, 11:04 AM
airkewl   I have two original 914-6s. One is bone stock, ot...   May 16 2003, 11:16 AM
Mueller   No factory cars (these days) are designed for drag...   May 16 2003, 11:57 AM
72Signal914   I don't about you all but I am perfectly happy...   May 16 2003, 12:19 PM
J P Stein   Heh,heh, I love this shit. Some background I star...   May 16 2003, 01:32 PM
Brad Roberts   Anthony, Stop by the shop (SSI)..You'll never...   May 16 2003, 02:16 PM
J P Stein   I watched while Brad reached thru the drivers wind...   May 16 2003, 02:30 PM
Brad Roberts   I want driveability for a street car... The carbed...   May 16 2003, 02:35 PM
jfort   great discussion, you guys. thanks! I hope J...   May 16 2003, 02:46 PM
joea9146     May 16 2003, 02:56 PM
Brad Roberts   Ha ha yes it is... but the 3.2 fan is louder.. and...   May 16 2003, 02:56 PM
seanery   I just went for a ride in a stock 3.2 powered car....   May 17 2003, 11:46 PM
anthony   This turned out to be a great thread. Brad I'm...   May 18 2003, 01:16 PM
Bleyseng   What do decent 3.2 engines go for in Calif? Up her...   May 18 2003, 04:05 PM
si2t3m   Yeah, the webered 3.0L in my 914 drinks gas like...   May 18 2003, 07:32 PM
Brad Roberts   They go for 5500$ down here Geoff. You can ge...   May 19 2003, 07:37 AM


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