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| davehg |
Sep 19 2017, 06:57 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 207 Joined: 19-September 17 From: PNW Member No.: 21,443 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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New member, long time lurker here. I'll be posting another 914-6 conversion project shortly, but posting a thanks for now for all the great info I've come across here.
I took the easy way into 914-6 ownership - I bought a completed car that was a track car whose PO had done the hard work. This car has a 3.2L engine, injected, with large riveted composite flares, and a pretty austere race-friendly interior with racing seats, roll cage, and little else - not even side windows or carpeting or panels. This car I refer to as the Outlaw - it's a middle finger to the purists and I absolutely love it. But...I wanted a clean and pretty "cars and coffee" version. There's not a ton of value restoring the Outlaw. The Outlaw's body is fine, but it is purposely built. I had bought a project from a local Porschephile who had too many nice projects (356, pre-73 911). his goal was originally to do a big Raby 4. He had stripped, prepped, and beautifully painted a really nice shell, and spent a small fortune getting the original bumpers and details correct. He had a set of mint Fuchs 14" wheels, bits and pieces from 2 interiors, and was really only missing the engine and some trim/interior bits. A deal was struck, trailer was hitched, boxes moved, and now it's my problem. The conversion wisdom here seems to be to go big - 3.0l or more. But I have a big engine car. This is intended to be just a Sunday cruiser, no track time. Plus, I have access to perfectly nice prepped 2.7L that has case guards installed, a 911s cam, and the work mostly done, for a decent price, and it would sound just swell with PMOs. So I am heading this route. I am taking my time with the Pretty Car - not going to be concours but a great looking driver with super clean details, no flares, and more along the lines of an original -6 with a bit more oomph. I'll detail the suspension bits so it looks pretty on a lift, and I need to think through the oil cooling issues - it doesn't get super hot in the PNW but for a few days a year, and if I can avoid the expense of a front mounted cooler and running lines that would be just swell. At least that's my current plan. We'll see where my budget leads. I have a good start - great primed and painted rust free shell, all the expensive body work complete, an engine lined up, and a clear vision of where I want to go. Looking forward to the collective input and experience when I get started this winter. |
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| davehg |
Jan 19 2018, 12:33 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 207 Joined: 19-September 17 From: PNW Member No.: 21,443 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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Long time since I last updated. I brought the 2.7 home and my engine builder looked it over. It needs...lots of machining. Sending off to Ollie's next week for about $3k in machine work - shuffle pin, oil return and other stuff for the case, port and machine heads, valves, guides, for the heads, media tumble etc. I have the case certs and studs, so I did manage to save some $$. Also, the cylinders were Mahles in mint shape, ready for a new set of RS pistons.
Decided now is the time to go Twin Plug. I am having the heads drilled to accommodate a twin plug and trying to steel myself for the significant extra costs of adding a distributor, CDI boxes, and the wiring and bits. I might go single plug to start if my budget doesn't allow, but how much more cool to launch as a twin plug! While the engine is being rebuilt, I need to source some engine tins, and hoping Ben comes through on the cast oil lines! I located the spare part depicted above, and managed to score a brand new Engleman and Jwest fuseboxes to upgrade. Leaning towards the Engleman simply because it looks better. I also said goodbye to the Z4M Coupe which is being consigned for sale to finance completion of this build. I think I made the right choice but will likely add the Z4M to the list of cars I wish I still had. I don't plan on making that mistake with the 914 however.... |
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Jan 15 2019, 10:23 AM
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Decided now is the time to go Twin Plug. I am having the heads drilled to accommodate a twin plug and trying to steel myself for the significant extra costs of adding a distributor, CDI boxes, and the wiring and bits. I might go single plug to start if my budget doesn't allow, but how much more cool to launch as a twin plug! If you don't mind the look (or lack of dizzy), it might be more cost effective to go crankfire. Certainly allows more spark tuning opportunities. Clewett Engineering makes a pretty nice complete package system for ~$1500-$1800 depending on options and there are lots of less expensive more-DIY options too. |
| davehg |
Jan 15 2019, 12:06 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 207 Joined: 19-September 17 From: PNW Member No.: 21,443 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE If you don't mind the look (or lack of dizzy), it might be more cost effective to go crankfire. Certainly allows more spark tuning opportunities. Clewett Engineering makes a pretty nice complete package system for ~$1500-$1800 depending on options and there are lots of less expensive more-DIY options too. Too late now - I've already purchased a modified Bosch distributor and cap/rotor with Pertronix, as well as the MSD box. I think the all-in cost was probably another $1k over the Clewett package, when I factored in the parts, machine work, and extra wires. |
davehg 914-6 2.7 Euro RS Twin Plug Project Sep 19 2017, 06:57 PM
arne :wttc:
As you already know, there is a whole pil... Sep 19 2017, 07:01 PM
davehg
:wttc:
Oh yeah...
:ttiwwp:
Here is the Outla... Sep 20 2017, 10:22 AM
GeorgeRud The 2.7 is a great engine for your conversion. Mi... Sep 19 2017, 07:08 PM
PanelBilly I run my 3.0 with just the cooler on the engine. W... Sep 19 2017, 09:27 PM
davehg
I run my 3.0 with just the cooler on the engine. ... Sep 19 2017, 10:29 PM
Mark Henry
I run my 3.0 with just the cooler on the engine.... Dec 17 2017, 03:46 PM
Larmo63 There are a few of us here who have just crossed t... Sep 19 2017, 10:59 PM
aharder :wttc: Sep 20 2017, 03:51 AM
mepstein :wttc:
Try it without the cooler and add it if t... Sep 20 2017, 05:32 AM
mb911 Very nice let me know if I can help. Check out my ... Sep 20 2017, 10:43 AM
davehg
Very nice let me know if I can help. Check out my... Sep 21 2017, 02:07 PM
mb911
Very nice let me know if I can help. Check out m... Sep 21 2017, 04:20 PM
davehg I love coming home to packages.
The Pretty Car c... Sep 20 2017, 09:59 PM
Mikey914 Welcome Dave,
Where in the PNW are ya?
You may fi... Sep 20 2017, 10:08 PM
Perry Kiehl Looks like a very worth chassis. I do engine harn... Sep 21 2017, 11:37 AM
JOEPROPER
Looks like a very worth chassis. I do engine har... Sep 21 2017, 12:19 PM
davehg Thanks Perry and Mikey. I am just outside of Seatt... Sep 21 2017, 02:01 PM
Dave_Darling (trying to locate two rear 5 lug hubs - either af... Sep 22 2017, 02:20 PM
mb911 The 2 piece tanks off ebay take some specialty too... Sep 21 2017, 02:07 PM
Drums66 .....WELCOME! :shades2:
:wavebye: Sep 21 2017, 02:39 PM
Cairo94507 :wttc: Looks like you got two nice cars there. Wa... Sep 22 2017, 07:03 AM
davehg The first few weeks into this project and I feel l... Sep 28 2017, 03:10 PM
mb911 Dave sounds like a good list.. If Eric@pmb can... Sep 28 2017, 09:06 PM
PanelBilly Get the engine started. Work on everything else af... Sep 28 2017, 10:29 PM
davehg Ok, the engine is getting started - it will be hap... Oct 5 2017, 10:09 PM
mb911
Ok, the engine is getting started - it will be ha... Oct 6 2017, 05:16 AM
mepstein
[quote name='davehg' post='2534787' date='Oct 5 2... Oct 6 2017, 06:35 PM
davehg Here's a question - air compressors? I am need... Oct 5 2017, 10:19 PM
Larmo63 I'm partial to the Patrick motor mount, and I ... Oct 5 2017, 10:49 PM
davehg
I'm partial to the Patrick motor mount, and I... Oct 6 2017, 02:41 PM
gms Looks like Bernie's work Oct 6 2017, 05:02 PM
davehg You guessed it, my project is “feeling the Bern.... Oct 6 2017, 11:03 PM
RickS I live literally live across the river from Bernie... Oct 26 2017, 09:14 AM
GeorgeRud Ben’s exchangers and oil tanks will fit right in... Oct 7 2017, 02:32 PM
davehg Good parts day today! Ben’s oil tank arrived... Oct 18 2017, 10:44 PM
mb911 Thats great news.. I was able to find someone now ... Oct 19 2017, 05:35 AM
JOEPROPER
Thats great news.. I was able to find someone now... Oct 19 2017, 08:07 AM
mb911
Thats great news.. I was able to find someone no... Oct 19 2017, 09:54 AM
JOEPROPER
[quote name='JOEPROPER' post='2539322' date='Oct ... Oct 19 2017, 10:06 AM
jcambo7 :wttc:
I’m in Graham a little south of you. If... Oct 19 2017, 09:49 AM
davehg Got a bunch of goodie boxes from PMB today! Ca... Oct 25 2017, 09:49 PM
davehg I went to SoCal and had a chance to play with my b... Nov 13 2017, 01:52 PM
davehg It's been raining parts lately - Appbiz sent o... Dec 11 2017, 02:37 PM
mb911 Awesome.. You should have heat exchangers by now a... Dec 11 2017, 02:49 PM
davehg Woohoo!! I finally have a roller!
Fro... Dec 16 2017, 11:00 PM
Lucky9146
Too late now - I've already purchased a mod... Jan 15 2019, 12:57 PM
mepstein The Engleman had an issue with shorting to the cha... Jan 19 2018, 07:37 AM
davehg
The Engleman had an issue with shorting to the ch... Jan 19 2018, 12:48 PM
mepstein
The Engleman had an issue with shorting to the c... Jan 19 2018, 01:05 PM
tygaboy Off topic but I have a buddy looking for a Z4M Cou... Jan 19 2018, 12:04 PM
mb911 Dave here is a teaser for you.. Jan 20 2018, 04:41 PM
davehg Another update. Car is back at Bernie’s and Rich... Jan 15 2019, 12:29 AM
davehg Engine back from Ollie’s. Case was media blasted... Jan 15 2019, 12:46 AM
PanelBilly So many great looking parts. The engine is just ar... Jan 15 2019, 09:45 AM
davehg So much work has been done since my last post. Her... Feb 2 2020, 09:26 PM
davehg Distributor and cap installed, and engine finished... Feb 2 2020, 09:41 PM
rgalla9146 Beautiful work.
Where did you source the distrib... Feb 3 2020, 10:51 AM
davehg
Beautiful work.
Where did you source the distri... Feb 3 2020, 08:43 PM
Mark Henry
Beautiful work.
Where did you source the distri... Feb 3 2020, 01:14 PM
campbellcj
[quote name='rgalla9146' post='2782745' date='Feb... Jan 18 2022, 11:39 AM
brant
[quote name='rgalla9146' post='2782745' date='Fe... Jan 18 2022, 11:48 AM
Mikey914 One of my favorite colors lookin good :first: Feb 4 2020, 11:05 AM
davehg Long time since I’ve upgraded the thread.
Motor... Jan 16 2022, 12:31 AM
eric9144 Wooow looking good! :cheer: :drooley: Jan 17 2022, 12:25 PM
raynekat I did 914-6 conversion that I just sold last fall ... Jan 18 2022, 12:59 AM
Jett
I did 914-6 conversion that I just sold last fall... Jan 18 2022, 09:52 AM

mepstein
I did 914-6 conversion that I just sold last fal... Jan 18 2022, 10:49 AM
horizontally-opposed
I did 914-6 conversion that I just sold last fall... Mar 23 2023, 12:45 PM
colingreene this thread needs updates Mar 23 2023, 11:04 AM
BillJ Was curious why twin plug? RS pistons are low com... Mar 23 2023, 12:39 PM
davehg
Was curious why twin plug? RS pistons are low co... Nov 11 2023, 03:14 PM
BillJ
Was curious why twin plug? RS pistons are low c... Nov 11 2023, 11:28 PM
jfort Love my 2.7 factory six. Crank fired, twin plug. A... Mar 23 2023, 02:34 PM
rick 918-S Very nice build. Top shelf :beer2: Mar 24 2023, 04:22 AM
davehg Wow, hard to believe I've not updated this thr... Nov 11 2023, 01:54 PM
davehg Turning to the transmission, it was completely reb... Nov 11 2023, 02:03 PM
davehg For the interior, I struggled on whether to go com... Nov 11 2023, 02:22 PM
davehg The moment of truth on the first start up.
and m... Nov 11 2023, 02:38 PM
davehg A sneak peek at the 74 911, which I'm calling ... Nov 11 2023, 03:58 PM
Cairo94507 I love this build. :beer2: Nov 11 2023, 04:34 PM
Root_Werks What a great build! Really turned out nice.
... Nov 12 2023, 01:25 PM
TRS63 What a fantastic car and it must be awesome on the... Nov 14 2023, 10:36 AM
DRPHIL914
Long time since I’ve upgraded the thread.
Moto... Nov 15 2023, 01:42 PM
davehg A few more tweaks now that I am past the break in.... Jun 25 2024, 09:56 PM
davehg For fun, also showing its stablemate that is now c... Jun 25 2024, 10:02 PM
colingreene Rather than speculating that it "feels lean... Jul 9 2024, 11:37 AM![]() ![]() |
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