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| Gatornapper |
Oct 22 2021, 07:20 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,285 Joined: 22-September 17 From: Woods west of Richmond, VA Member No.: 21,449 Region Association: South East States
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Dear 914 friends -
At 76, I think I've got one more project in me. My Porsche genius friend Rick found me this in Cleveland: https://cleveland.craigslist.org/cto/d/lake...7387301032.html And I have a contract on it for less than asking price. Friends in Cleveland looked at it closely on Wed. nite, sent me 7 close-up videos of it and gave it a huge thumbs up. Engine did run for few seconds with starter fluid, started immediately and sounded like new. Almost no rust, interior immaculate. This is a very rare Special Edition with custom interior, wheels and two-tone paint. Looking for a great source of info on 924's but can't find much. Nothing like 914 world. Any pointers for a resource like 914world would be appreciated - tho I'm sure there is none. NO - not selling the 914! My garage has room for both cars. TIA, GN |
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| Maltese Falcon |
Nov 6 2021, 03:22 PM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,120 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Mulholland SoCal Member No.: 2,755 Region Association: None |
@gatornapper Anthoni (924 guru) over in Oregon says hi, he's one of our header (924 n/a) customer's ; says that you found a decent 931 ! He uses our n/a race header on a modified 931 cyl head. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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| Gatornapper |
Nov 7 2021, 06:39 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,285 Joined: 22-September 17 From: Woods west of Richmond, VA Member No.: 21,449 Region Association: South East States
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Falcon -
Anthoni has been helping me a lot on the 924 forum. Great guy. Once car is running well and on road, I'll be looking for some mods to improve HP/Torque, but doubt that headers will be on that list due to $$$. Want to keep car fairly stock but add M471 pkg. items. Thanks! Only problem is this being one of the best car forums on the planet, I'm spoiled by all the great help here. Only 3 or 4 have stepped up on the 924 board, Anthoni being one. Another, Cedric, in Sweden had ALL original Porsche Shop Manuals in ENGLISH for download! The guys that have jumped in to help all race their cars I think.......what a great resource. Wish I had the same for my 914....... GN @gatornapper Anthoni (924 guru) over in Oregon says hi, he's one of our header (924 n/a) customer's ; says that you found a decent 931 ! He uses our n/a race header on a modified 931 cyl head. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
| Maltese Falcon |
Nov 7 2021, 08:46 PM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,120 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Mulholland SoCal Member No.: 2,755 Region Association: None |
Falcon - Anthoni has been helping me a lot on the 924 forum. Great guy. Once car is running well and on road, I'll be looking for some mods to improve HP/Torque, but doubt that headers will be on that list due to $$$. Want to keep car fairly stock but add M471 pkg. items. Thanks! Only problem is this being one of the best car forums on the planet, I'm spoiled by all the great help here. Only 3 or 4 have stepped up on the 924 board, Anthoni being one. Another, Cedric, in Sweden had ALL original Porsche Shop Manuals in ENGLISH for download! The guys that have jumped in to help all race their cars I think.......what a great resource. Wish I had the same for my 914....... GN @gatornapper Anthoni (924 guru) over in Oregon says hi, he's one of our header (924 n/a) customer's ; says that you found a decent 931 ! He uses our n/a race header on a modified 931 cyl head. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) M471 option list for the 924 Turbo does sound intriguing ! Please list the goodies when you can / or pM me on message board . |
| Gatornapper |
Nov 8 2021, 10:16 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,285 Joined: 22-September 17 From: Woods west of Richmond, VA Member No.: 21,449 Region Association: South East States
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M471 group:
"At an early point in the production it was decided that the car's power required improvement in other areas. So, the 931 “....was built with a limited-slip differential, leather upholstery, air conditioning, power windows, a lift-out sunroof and the coveted M471 "S" Sport Group Package, which included four-wheel internally ventilated disc brakes on five-bolt hubs, mounting forged 16 x 6-inch 928-style alloys (up from cast 15 x 6s). Also included were upgraded springs and Koni shocks, 23mm front and 14mm rear anti-roll bars, a different steering ratio and a leather-wrapped 911SC steering wheel.” My car has leather front seats and leather-wrapped 911SC steering wheel. Haven't measured sway bars yet. Local junk car had all this, but sold. Sat outdoors for 10 years. Looking for parts car with this package - and almost ALL 1980 931's had it. Mine is extra rare in that it did not...mine manufactured in 6/79, so in many ways it was a '79 model, but was sold on 5/26/80 and recorded by Porsche as a 1980 model. GN Falcon - Anthoni has been helping me a lot on the 924 forum. Great guy. Once car is running well and on road, I'll be looking for some mods to improve HP/Torque, but doubt that headers will be on that list due to $$$. Want to keep car fairly stock but add M471 pkg. items. Thanks! Only problem is this being one of the best car forums on the planet, I'm spoiled by all the great help here. Only 3 or 4 have stepped up on the 924 board, Anthoni being one. Another, Cedric, in Sweden had ALL original Porsche Shop Manuals in ENGLISH for download! The guys that have jumped in to help all race their cars I think.......what a great resource. Wish I had the same for my 914....... GN @gatornapper Anthoni (924 guru) over in Oregon says hi, he's one of our header (924 n/a) customer's ; says that you found a decent 931 ! He uses our n/a race header on a modified 931 cyl head. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) M471 option list for the 924 Turbo does sound intriguing ! Please list the goodies when you can / or pM me on message board . |
| JamesM |
Nov 8 2021, 01:46 PM
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924 turbos are rare to being with, but yeah, most if not all 1980 models I have seen did have the M471 package, mine does. Seen the 4 bolt setup a lot more on the 79s, perhaps you have a late 79 production 80 model year car? Hard to say, These cars went though so many mid year production changes with limited production numbers across a 3 year period its hard to say what is "normal"
Is your car missing rear seatbelts? If I recall, one advantage to having the 4 bolt setup is that you are dealing with cheaper VW parts, where as the M471 package parts have porsche PNs (911 SC brake bits if i recall correctly) M471 group: "At an early point in the production it was decided that the car's power required improvement in other areas. So, the 931 “....was built with a limited-slip differential, leather upholstery, air conditioning, power windows, a lift-out sunroof and the coveted M471 "S" Sport Group Package, which included four-wheel internally ventilated disc brakes on five-bolt hubs, mounting forged 16 x 6-inch 928-style alloys (up from cast 15 x 6s). Also included were upgraded springs and Koni shocks, 23mm front and 14mm rear anti-roll bars, a different steering ratio and a leather-wrapped 911SC steering wheel.” My car has leather front seats and leather-wrapped 911SC steering wheel. Haven't measured sway bars yet. Local junk car had all this, but sold. Sat outdoors for 10 years. Looking for parts car with this package - and almost ALL 1980 931's had it. Mine is extra rare in that it did not...mine manufactured in 6/79, so in many ways it was a '79 model, but was sold on 5/26/80 and recorded by Porsche as a 1980 model. GN EDIT: Just read your early post stating a 6/79 production date... guessing that's why its 4 bolt |
Gatornapper ADDED 924 Turbo to stable! Oct 22 2021, 07:20 AM
Big Len I would have bought it too. Best of luck with it. Oct 22 2021, 07:26 AM
Chris H. Nice buy! Those are increasing in value for s... Oct 22 2021, 07:31 AM
infraredcalvin Nice buy, love the pasha doors, looks nicely prese... Oct 22 2021, 07:50 AM
mate914 I had a few 924's NA in high school. They are ... Oct 22 2021, 07:54 AM
914Sixer IF you can, hold out for 1981 924 Turbo. In the 9... Oct 22 2021, 08:31 AM
JamesM
IF you can, hold out for 1981 924 Turbo. In the ... Oct 22 2021, 09:54 AM
Gatornapper Mark -
Thanks for tip, but I'm committed. If... Oct 22 2021, 07:25 PM
ClayPerrine http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/c.ten... Oct 22 2021, 08:45 AM
Gatornapper Thanks Clay - I always appreciate and respect your... Oct 22 2021, 07:27 PM
jesse7flying Congrats on your find. You might be interested in... Oct 22 2021, 08:53 AM
Gatornapper Jesse -
THANKS! Will do!
GN
Congrats ... Oct 22 2021, 07:28 PM
JamesM I picked up a non runner with the 5bolt/sport pack... Oct 22 2021, 09:35 AM
Root_Werks Had a few 924's, never a 931 though. Nice fin... Oct 22 2021, 09:47 AM
Mayne The 924 turbo is a cool car! I almost bought a... Oct 22 2021, 10:12 AM
Gatornapper To all -
Thanks TONS for all the help!
Been ... Oct 22 2021, 04:11 PM
JamesM
I'm an old mechanic so I know what to do fir... Oct 22 2021, 06:43 PM
Gatornapper James -
Wow - great list of tips - thank you. Gl... Oct 22 2021, 07:36 PM
JamesM
James -
As to 2 - fuel pumps - from all I've... Oct 22 2021, 09:46 PM
Gatornapper James -
Thanks for the correction. I'll be l... Oct 23 2021, 05:37 AM
Tdskip The bird has a fairly active 94–944 community, I... Oct 22 2021, 05:15 PM
Jett Love the car! Oct 22 2021, 07:26 PM
wonkipop nice buy @Gatornapper
924 turbos are a rare sig... Oct 22 2021, 07:46 PM
Gatornapper Pop -
The idle cool down when hot is really impor... Oct 23 2021, 05:35 AM
mb911 Absolutely love that car. Would love to have one. Oct 23 2021, 06:42 AM
Gatornapper Ben -
Thinking I will too.
Jeremy -
Thanks for... Oct 23 2021, 04:20 PM
Mayne Also, check the Rennlist sub-forums for more good ... Oct 23 2021, 07:00 AM
Gatornapper FOUND IT!
THE HOLY GRAIL!
Of "How t... Oct 24 2021, 06:03 AM
Tdskip We are all hoping for lots of pictures and updates... Oct 24 2021, 06:22 AM
Gatornapper TD -
And I CAN'T WAIT to get the car and send... Oct 24 2021, 06:52 AM
Gatornapper So keeping a 924 thread going wouldn't be cons... Oct 24 2021, 06:56 AM
Gatornapper Well, the Seller of the 924 Turbo shafted me. Eve... Oct 26 2021, 08:51 PM
wonkipop
Well, the Seller of the 924 Turbo shafted me. Ev... Oct 26 2021, 11:54 PM

Gatornapper Yes, 924 S is in the search. Has the Porsche bala... Oct 27 2021, 06:04 AM

DRPHIL914
Well, the Seller of the 924 Turbo shafted me. E... Oct 27 2021, 06:29 AM
JamesM Wow that sucks. Didnt realize there was interest/a... Oct 27 2021, 11:09 AM
Gatornapper James -
Yes, I read about that sensor and its fai... Oct 27 2021, 04:26 PM
Gatornapper Stand by Oct 27 2021, 06:28 AM
mb911 Well that sucks.. I know there is a 931 specialty ... Oct 27 2021, 06:33 AM
Mayne Sorry to hear the deal fell through! Check ou... Oct 27 2021, 06:42 AM
Gatornapper Mayne -
WHERE is the car?
Thanks,
GN
Sorry to... Oct 27 2021, 08:22 AM
Mayne Albuquerque NM, if you meant its physical location... Oct 27 2021, 09:19 AM
Chris H. Man that sucks. Sorry to hear, but you will proba... Oct 27 2021, 12:12 PM
mb911 Wow. Crazy. Hope it works out Oct 27 2021, 05:22 PM
wonkipop esoteric detail.
original 924 prototype, when it w... Oct 28 2021, 12:50 AM
Gatornapper I totally don't get it either. ONLY place for... Oct 28 2021, 09:14 PM
VaccaRabite Oh man.
What you are telling me is throwing red ... Oct 28 2021, 07:24 AM
Root_Werks
Oh man.
What you are telling me is throwing red... Oct 28 2021, 10:53 AM
Gatornapper Zach -
I think I know what happened but don't... Oct 28 2021, 09:17 PM
Gatornapper Guys -
I've never entered into a deal knowing... Oct 28 2021, 09:29 PM
Chris H. Sounds like it'll work out! You can defin... Oct 29 2021, 07:01 AM
Gatornapper Thanks Chris!
Sounds like it'll work out... Oct 29 2021, 08:02 AM
JamesM
Sounds like it'll work out! You can defi... Oct 29 2021, 08:45 AM
Gatornapper Having restored a 914, and knowing the VW history ... Oct 29 2021, 09:04 PM
Root_Werks :popcorn:
Keep us posted! If this works out... Oct 29 2021, 10:01 AM
Gatornapper :Qarl: :Qarl: :Qarl: :Qarl: :Qarl:
Well guys... Nov 5 2021, 07:17 PM
wonkipop well done mate. :beer2: Nov 6 2021, 01:55 AM
mb911 Awesome.. can't wait to see the progress.. Nov 6 2021, 06:10 AM
Gatornapper Will be a slow project, other things going on.
On... Nov 6 2021, 07:45 AM
mb911
Will be a slow project, other things going on.
O... Nov 6 2021, 10:32 AM
Gatornapper Ben -
Ah-ha! you got your Porsche genes when... Nov 7 2021, 07:42 AM
mb911
Ben -
Ah-ha! you got your Porsche genes whe... Nov 7 2021, 04:28 PM
Tdskip Congratulations Nov 6 2021, 02:38 PM
Gatornapper Thanks Skip.
Congratulations
Nov 7 2021, 06:33 PM
Gatornapper James -
Yes, build date of 6/79, but registered b... Nov 8 2021, 04:44 PM
JamesM
Spoke to another Porsche 931 expert today who sai... Nov 9 2021, 02:22 AM
GBX0073 Wow looks even better on YOUR Trailer taking it Ho... Nov 7 2021, 03:39 PM
Gatornapper Just digging into car today. More good news.
Fron... Nov 8 2021, 01:09 PM
Maltese Falcon That's one nice M471 upgrade list @Gatornappe... Nov 8 2021, 02:59 PM
Gatornapper Cannot believe you let that very rare and priceles... Nov 8 2021, 04:36 PM
Maltese Falcon These GTRs' were Turbo/ MFI, and on decel the ... Nov 8 2021, 09:30 PM
wonkipop nice. (flame and GTR).
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got me curious enoug... Nov 8 2021, 09:44 PM
Maltese Falcon
nice. (flame and GTR).
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got me curious enou... Nov 9 2021, 01:02 AM

wonkipop
[quote name='wonkipop' post='2958668' date='Nov 8... Nov 9 2021, 03:40 AM
JamesM
nice. (flame and GTR).
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got me curious enou... Nov 9 2021, 01:49 AM
wonkipop
[quote name='wonkipop' post='2958668' date='Nov 8... Nov 9 2021, 03:43 AM
Gatornapper Wonki -
Now I'm really puzzled. "932... Nov 9 2021, 05:33 PM
mb911
Wonki -
Now I'm really puzzled. "932... Nov 9 2021, 05:43 PM
wonkipop
Wonki -
Now I'm really puzzled. "932... Nov 9 2021, 05:48 PM
wonkipop i had a check of wiki.
just to see.
not that it is... Nov 9 2021, 06:20 PM
Gatornapper Guys -
Found the same on 932 search. RHD.
I have... Nov 9 2021, 06:42 PM
wonkipop i hadn't realised the turbos are quite a small... Nov 9 2021, 09:45 PM
wonkipop you got me going gator.
there is another one for ... Nov 10 2021, 01:17 AM
mb911
you got me going gator.
there is another one for... Nov 10 2021, 03:02 PM
Gatornapper Wow. Didn't mean to influence you!
Yes, ... Nov 10 2021, 07:32 PM
wonkipop @mb911
it does look clean but i think there is s... Nov 10 2021, 03:51 PM
Gatornapper Great 924 resource - actually great Porsche resour... Nov 10 2021, 08:19 PM
Gatornapper Today I drove RickB45's '85 944 we picked ... Nov 10 2021, 08:32 PM
wonkipop @Gatornapper .
don't forget 20K aud = 14.5K u... Nov 11 2021, 01:35 AM
Gatornapper Wonki -
I cannot imaging the cost of converting a... Nov 11 2021, 09:30 AM
wonkipop @Gatornapper .
converting cars to RHD from LHD is... Nov 11 2021, 05:16 PM
Gatornapper Wonki -
Lotsa priceless info in your post. Thank... Nov 11 2021, 08:49 PM
wonkipop i'm a bit mellower with age than i used to be.... Nov 11 2021, 09:08 PM
Gatornapper Yeah, age does mellow us. I'm 76 but still go ... Nov 12 2021, 05:09 PM
sixnotfour 84-85 ,,I would buy em for the Fuchs $750 , ... Nov 12 2021, 06:05 PM![]() ![]() |
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