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> ADDED 924 Turbo to stable!, New Restoration Project
Gatornapper
post Oct 22 2021, 07:20 AM
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Dear 914 friends -

At 76, I think I've got one more project in me. My Porsche genius friend Rick found me this in Cleveland:

https://cleveland.craigslist.org/cto/d/lake...7387301032.html

And I have a contract on it for less than asking price. Friends in Cleveland looked at it closely on Wed. nite, sent me 7 close-up videos of it and gave it a huge thumbs up. Engine did run for few seconds with starter fluid, started immediately and sounded like new. Almost no rust, interior immaculate.

This is a very rare Special Edition with custom interior, wheels and two-tone paint.

Looking for a great source of info on 924's but can't find much. Nothing like 914 world.

Any pointers for a resource like 914world would be appreciated - tho I'm sure there is none.

NO - not selling the 914! My garage has room for both cars.

TIA,

GN
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@Gatornapper .

converting cars to RHD from LHD is something that used to be well established in aus since the 1950s.

even the major car manufacturers did it.
i believe the first batch of mustangs sent to aus in the 1960s were subcontracted out by ford to a local specialist in sydney. the cars were sold with full warranty by ford.

holden also did it with the big chevs. which were sourced from canada. the components were made by GM canada including a right hand drive dashboard. but the cars were assembled in final form down here.

there were specialist guys everywhere that converted other USA models on an import basis.

converting a 911 to RHD is not that hard apparently. very straightforward.

the difference in price for a second hand 911 sourced in the USA during the 1980s and 1990s justified the cost of conversion. it worked out cheaper than buying one here at that time, even second hand. 911s have generally held on to high values here.
stratospheric now.

914s are another story. more difficult conversion as it required extensive mods to front firewall/fuel tank and basically a hand made dash. there were moulds in fibreglass floating around.

a mate of mine has a speedster that was exported here some time in the late 1970s and is converted to RHD. people did that because there were not many speedsters here and they were hard to find. so you went to the USA and got one, because thats where most of them were. probably nearly the entire population of speedsters resided in one state, california.

a 924 would be entirely doable. as there were RHD parts to source including the dash etc.

if the conversion was done by a reputable shop it would be a good job.

i'll take a look at it if its still around when i get some time.


as to driving a 924. i used to go out with a chick who had one in WA.
it was an N A model. not much fun around town as the engine really is a bit lack lustre. but out on the open road and wound up it was a whole other thing. just as balanced as a 914, maybe even more. certainly it did not suffer from high speed nose lift like the 914. when i lived in WA back then you got plenty of opportunities to drive as fast as you wanted on wide open empty roads, no other traffic. i discovered the 914 started lifting the nose at around 95mph. 924 just stayed planted all the way well past a 100mph. think we might have pegged out at about 110 mph. it took a while to get there but once you got it up there it would have sat at that speed all day long.

it might be why you have got me interested again as i am remembering the car.

trouble is there really is nowhere in my state these days you can drive at that speed.
if you got caught they would burn your license, throw you in jail and crush the car.

the only thing i remember about 924s that is a negative is they developed a lot of rattles in the body work. especially the tailgates etc. owners complained a lot about it back in the day here. porsches were not supposed to rattle.

i also remember the steering wheel. it was a real crush to get you legs in under it.
and it spun concentrically, a sort of planetary motion. when you were parking the car the wheel would dig into your legs.
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Wonki -

Lotsa priceless info in your post. Thank you. Never had my 914 over 80 so I know nothing of its problems at speed - my love of the car is in the twisties that are predominant where I live below 55mph. For anything above 55, that's where my '11 Cayman S shines!

I can't wait to get my 931 on the road. Drove my friend RickB45's new-to-him 85 944 yesterday and loved its neutral handling, great ride, great shifting - everything. Not sure how an '80 931 will compare. I do know my 931 has the large 23mm front and 14mm rear sway bars - so I'm looking forward to that. I doubt the 944 has such large sway bars.

Got the car on my lift today and all looks great underneath. Owner had car undercoated in mid-80's. I am very pleased.

While the 944 yesterday handled great in the curves, it wasn't quite as flat as my 914 - which doesn't have sway bars! Yet!.... that is! That was one of my winter projects that will now wait on how well the 931 is doing.

GN

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@Gatornapper .

converting cars to RHD from LHD is something that used to be well established in aus since the 1950s.

even the major car manufacturers did it.
i believe the first batch of mustangs sent to aus in the 1960s were subcontracted out by ford to a local specialist in sydney. the cars were sold with full warranty by ford.

holden also did it with the big chevs. which were sourced from canada. the components were made by GM canada including a right hand drive dashboard. but the cars were assembled in final form down here.

there were specialist guys everywhere that converted other USA models on an import basis.

converting a 911 to RHD is not that hard apparently. very straightforward.

the difference in price for a second hand 911 sourced in the USA during the 1980s and 1990s justified the cost of conversion. it worked out cheaper than buying one here at that time, even second hand. 911s have generally held on to high values here.
stratospheric now.

914s are another story. more difficult conversion as it required extensive mods to front firewall/fuel tank and basically a hand made dash. there were moulds in fibreglass floating around.

a mate of mine has a speedster that was exported here some time in the late 1970s and is converted to RHD. people did that because there were not many speedsters here and they were hard to find. so you went to the USA and got one, because thats where most of them were. probably nearly the entire population of speedsters resided in one state, california.

a 924 would be entirely doable. as there were RHD parts to source including the dash etc.

if the conversion was done by a reputable shop it would be a good job.

i'll take a look at it if its still around when i get some time.


as to driving a 924. i used to go out with a chick who had one in WA.
it was an N A model. not much fun around town as the engine really is a bit lack lustre. but out on the open road and wound up it was a whole other thing. just as balanced as a 914, maybe even more. certainly it did not suffer from high speed nose lift like the 914. when i lived in WA back then you got plenty of opportunities to drive as fast as you wanted on wide open empty roads, no other traffic. i discovered the 914 started lifting the nose at around 95mph. 924 just stayed planted all the way well past a 100mph. think we might have pegged out at about 110 mph. it took a while to get there but once you got it up there it would have sat at that speed all day long.

it might be why you have got me interested again as i am remembering the car.

trouble is there really is nowhere in my state these days you can drive at that speed.
if you got caught they would burn your license, throw you in jail and crush the car.

the only thing i remember about 924s that is a negative is they developed a lot of rattles in the body work. especially the tailgates etc. owners complained a lot about it back in the day here. porsches were not supposed to rattle.

i also remember the steering wheel. it was a real crush to get you legs in under it.
and it spun concentrically, a sort of planetary motion. when you were parking the car the wheel would dig into your legs.

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Gatornapper   ADDED 924 Turbo to stable!   Oct 22 2021, 07:20 AM
Big Len   I would have bought it too. Best of luck with it.   Oct 22 2021, 07:26 AM
Chris H.   Nice buy! Those are increasing in value for s...   Oct 22 2021, 07:31 AM
infraredcalvin   Nice buy, love the pasha doors, looks nicely prese...   Oct 22 2021, 07:50 AM
mate914   I had a few 924's NA in high school. They are ...   Oct 22 2021, 07:54 AM
914Sixer   IF you can, hold out for 1981 924 Turbo. In the 9...   Oct 22 2021, 08:31 AM
JamesM   IF you can, hold out for 1981 924 Turbo. In the ...   Oct 22 2021, 09:54 AM
Gatornapper   Mark - Thanks for tip, but I'm committed. If...   Oct 22 2021, 07:25 PM
ClayPerrine   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/c.ten...   Oct 22 2021, 08:45 AM
Gatornapper   Thanks Clay - I always appreciate and respect your...   Oct 22 2021, 07:27 PM
jesse7flying   Congrats on your find. You might be interested in...   Oct 22 2021, 08:53 AM
Gatornapper   Jesse - THANKS! Will do! GN Congrats ...   Oct 22 2021, 07:28 PM
JamesM   I picked up a non runner with the 5bolt/sport pack...   Oct 22 2021, 09:35 AM
Root_Werks   Had a few 924's, never a 931 though. Nice fin...   Oct 22 2021, 09:47 AM
Mayne   The 924 turbo is a cool car! I almost bought a...   Oct 22 2021, 10:12 AM
Gatornapper   To all - Thanks TONS for all the help! Been ...   Oct 22 2021, 04:11 PM
JamesM   I'm an old mechanic so I know what to do fir...   Oct 22 2021, 06:43 PM
Gatornapper   James - Wow - great list of tips - thank you. Gl...   Oct 22 2021, 07:36 PM
JamesM   James - As to 2 - fuel pumps - from all I've...   Oct 22 2021, 09:46 PM
Gatornapper   James - Thanks for the correction. I'll be l...   Oct 23 2021, 05:37 AM
Tdskip   The bird has a fairly active 94–944 community, I...   Oct 22 2021, 05:15 PM
Jett   Love the car!   Oct 22 2021, 07:26 PM
wonkipop   nice buy @Gatornapper 924 turbos are a rare sig...   Oct 22 2021, 07:46 PM
Gatornapper   Pop - The idle cool down when hot is really impor...   Oct 23 2021, 05:35 AM
mb911   Absolutely love that car. Would love to have one.   Oct 23 2021, 06:42 AM
Gatornapper   Ben - Thinking I will too. Jeremy - Thanks for...   Oct 23 2021, 04:20 PM
Mayne   Also, check the Rennlist sub-forums for more good ...   Oct 23 2021, 07:00 AM
Gatornapper   FOUND IT! THE HOLY GRAIL! Of "How t...   Oct 24 2021, 06:03 AM
Tdskip   We are all hoping for lots of pictures and updates...   Oct 24 2021, 06:22 AM
Gatornapper   TD - And I CAN'T WAIT to get the car and send...   Oct 24 2021, 06:52 AM
Gatornapper   So keeping a 924 thread going wouldn't be cons...   Oct 24 2021, 06:56 AM
Gatornapper   Well, the Seller of the 924 Turbo shafted me. Eve...   Oct 26 2021, 08:51 PM
wonkipop   Well, the Seller of the 924 Turbo shafted me. Ev...   Oct 26 2021, 11:54 PM
Gatornapper   Yes, 924 S is in the search. Has the Porsche bala...   Oct 27 2021, 06:04 AM
DRPHIL914   Well, the Seller of the 924 Turbo shafted me. E...   Oct 27 2021, 06:29 AM
JamesM   Wow that sucks. Didnt realize there was interest/a...   Oct 27 2021, 11:09 AM
Gatornapper   James - Yes, I read about that sensor and its fai...   Oct 27 2021, 04:26 PM
Gatornapper   Stand by   Oct 27 2021, 06:28 AM
mb911   Well that sucks.. I know there is a 931 specialty ...   Oct 27 2021, 06:33 AM
Mayne   Sorry to hear the deal fell through! Check ou...   Oct 27 2021, 06:42 AM
Gatornapper   Mayne - WHERE is the car? Thanks, GN Sorry to...   Oct 27 2021, 08:22 AM
Mayne   Albuquerque NM, if you meant its physical location...   Oct 27 2021, 09:19 AM
Chris H.   Man that sucks. Sorry to hear, but you will proba...   Oct 27 2021, 12:12 PM
mb911   Wow. Crazy. Hope it works out   Oct 27 2021, 05:22 PM
wonkipop   esoteric detail. original 924 prototype, when it w...   Oct 28 2021, 12:50 AM
Gatornapper   I totally don't get it either. ONLY place for...   Oct 28 2021, 09:14 PM
VaccaRabite   Oh man. What you are telling me is throwing red ...   Oct 28 2021, 07:24 AM
Root_Werks   Oh man. What you are telling me is throwing red...   Oct 28 2021, 10:53 AM
Gatornapper   Zach - I think I know what happened but don't...   Oct 28 2021, 09:17 PM
Gatornapper   Guys - I've never entered into a deal knowing...   Oct 28 2021, 09:29 PM
Chris H.   Sounds like it'll work out! You can defin...   Oct 29 2021, 07:01 AM
Gatornapper   Thanks Chris! Sounds like it'll work out...   Oct 29 2021, 08:02 AM
JamesM   Sounds like it'll work out! You can defi...   Oct 29 2021, 08:45 AM
Gatornapper   Having restored a 914, and knowing the VW history ...   Oct 29 2021, 09:04 PM
Root_Werks   :popcorn: Keep us posted! If this works out...   Oct 29 2021, 10:01 AM
Gatornapper   :Qarl: :Qarl: :Qarl: :Qarl: :Qarl: Well guys...   Nov 5 2021, 07:17 PM
wonkipop   well done mate. :beer2:   Nov 6 2021, 01:55 AM
mb911   Awesome.. can't wait to see the progress..   Nov 6 2021, 06:10 AM
Gatornapper   Will be a slow project, other things going on. On...   Nov 6 2021, 07:45 AM
mb911   Will be a slow project, other things going on. O...   Nov 6 2021, 10:32 AM
Gatornapper   Ben - Ah-ha! you got your Porsche genes when...   Nov 7 2021, 07:42 AM
mb911   Ben - Ah-ha! you got your Porsche genes whe...   Nov 7 2021, 04:28 PM
Tdskip   Congratulations   Nov 6 2021, 02:38 PM
Gatornapper   Thanks Skip. Congratulations   Nov 7 2021, 06:33 PM
Maltese Falcon   @gatornapper Anthoni (924 guru) over in Oregon sa...   Nov 6 2021, 03:22 PM
Gatornapper   Falcon - Anthoni has been helping me a lot on the...   Nov 7 2021, 06:39 PM
Maltese Falcon   Falcon - Anthoni has been helping me a lot on th...   Nov 7 2021, 08:46 PM
Gatornapper   M471 group: [b]"At an early point in the pro...   Nov 8 2021, 10:16 AM
JamesM   924 turbos are rare to being with, but yeah, most ...   Nov 8 2021, 01:46 PM
Gatornapper   James - Yes, build date of 6/79, but registered b...   Nov 8 2021, 04:44 PM
JamesM   Spoke to another Porsche 931 expert today who sai...   Nov 9 2021, 02:22 AM
GBX0073   Wow looks even better on YOUR Trailer taking it Ho...   Nov 7 2021, 03:39 PM
Gatornapper   Just digging into car today. More good news. Fron...   Nov 8 2021, 01:09 PM
Maltese Falcon   That's one nice M471 upgrade list @Gatornappe...   Nov 8 2021, 02:59 PM
Gatornapper   Cannot believe you let that very rare and priceles...   Nov 8 2021, 04:36 PM
Maltese Falcon   These GTRs' were Turbo/ MFI, and on decel the ...   Nov 8 2021, 09:30 PM
wonkipop   nice. (flame and GTR). --- got me curious enoug...   Nov 8 2021, 09:44 PM
Maltese Falcon   nice. (flame and GTR). --- got me curious enou...   Nov 9 2021, 01:02 AM
wonkipop   [quote name='wonkipop' post='2958668' date='Nov 8...   Nov 9 2021, 03:40 AM
JamesM   nice. (flame and GTR). --- got me curious enou...   Nov 9 2021, 01:49 AM
wonkipop   [quote name='wonkipop' post='2958668' date='Nov 8...   Nov 9 2021, 03:43 AM
Gatornapper   Wonki - Now I'm really puzzled. "932...   Nov 9 2021, 05:33 PM
mb911   Wonki - Now I'm really puzzled. "932...   Nov 9 2021, 05:43 PM
wonkipop   Wonki - Now I'm really puzzled. "932...   Nov 9 2021, 05:48 PM
wonkipop   i had a check of wiki. just to see. not that it is...   Nov 9 2021, 06:20 PM
Gatornapper   Guys - Found the same on 932 search. RHD. I have...   Nov 9 2021, 06:42 PM
wonkipop   i hadn't realised the turbos are quite a small...   Nov 9 2021, 09:45 PM
wonkipop   you got me going gator. there is another one for ...   Nov 10 2021, 01:17 AM
mb911   you got me going gator. there is another one for...   Nov 10 2021, 03:02 PM
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Gatornapper   Today I drove RickB45's '85 944 we picked ...   Nov 10 2021, 08:32 PM
wonkipop   @Gatornapper . don't forget 20K aud = 14.5K u...   Nov 11 2021, 01:35 AM
Gatornapper   Wonki - I cannot imaging the cost of converting a...   Nov 11 2021, 09:30 AM
wonkipop   @Gatornapper . converting cars to RHD from LHD is...   Nov 11 2021, 05:16 PM
Gatornapper   Wonki - Lotsa priceless info in your post. Thank...   Nov 11 2021, 08:49 PM
wonkipop   i'm a bit mellower with age than i used to be....   Nov 11 2021, 09:08 PM
Gatornapper   Yeah, age does mellow us. I'm 76 but still go ...   Nov 12 2021, 05:09 PM
sixnotfour   84-85 ,,I would buy em for the Fuchs $750 , ...   Nov 12 2021, 06:05 PM
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