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| DaveB |
Mar 11 2022, 10:29 PM
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| wonkipop |
Mar 15 2022, 03:30 PM
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@JeffBowlsby
thanks for that answer on stamped metal manuf. plate jeff. question prompted by karmann built vw beetles i looked at after @MCShack brought up the strange k numbers of some 75 MY 914s. i noticed the stamped metal manuf plate disappeared off beetles. it was in a highly visible position in the front trunk. disappeared for 76 MY beetles. thought at first these were cars that lost them during restoration. but every beetle sales documentation i came across did not have them. i looked at some standard beetles made at wolfsburg. the plate disappeared on those too. the following thoughts would only apply to cars bound for the USA market. VW dropped the old style metal manufacturers plate during or at the end of the 75MY across the range. it introduced a new style plate with the water cooled cars coming in. i believe what happened is that VW stopped putting two similar plates/labels on american market cars at the end of 75MY. instead those cars got the Vin sticker label only. it had the legal status in the USA anyway, the other old style metal plate was redundant. all the way up to the end of the 75 MY the metal plate had stamped on it MADE IN GERMANY. the vin label lacked country of origin during 70-74/5 MY. the reason they redesign the layout of the vin label to give themselves space at the top is to include country of origin. since they are going to get rid of the manuf plate. again, this is only USA cars. I believe other VW models, including the ROW 76 914 would have retained the manuf plate. i'm guessing the plate went over to a new design. i'm further guessing the new designed of the plate was the same or similar to what i have seen on golf mark 1's in the UK. but i have never seen a 76 ROW 914. i don't fully understand the whys of that - but i believe its possible that just like the USA adopted the Vin Label dictated by law in 69, the european countries (EU market) adopted their own standardised Vin system in around 76 and the old manuf plate was not up to the standard. ROW cars up to that time only have the manuf plate. ------- early golf manufacturer (or is it euro vin?) plate. this might be a repro but they are something close to this. a 76 ROW 914 probably had something resembling this and likely in the front trunk? --------- MADE IN GERMANY. this is how it goes with the VW manuf plate or later vin labels across german built range. up to end of 1964MY - MADE IN WESTERN GERMANY from 65MY to end of 75 MY (approx) - MADE IN GERMANY after this point old manuf plate ceases. USA Vin Labels - GERMANY. (only name of country, drop the term "made in"). from late in 75MY until end of production of 914s. courtesy of DaveP's run of 914 Vin Labels posted previously. by 79MY - on german built VW range it becomes - WEST GERMANY. not sure when the change in name happens at what model year. but by 79 it has happened. ________ the rare vin label. as davep has shown us, there is a rare label. looks like the one with germany on it at the top line but does not have the name of country in yet. its either a mistake label. and it could be. or. its a registration of a short moment in time where there is hesitation about what should go there. what is the name of the country? the discussions were happening around this time in (West) Germany. so at first the labels get nothing. (don't need to, still have manuf plate in frunk). then they settle on GERMANY as they have been using it since 1965 (though its offensive to the East Germans and had led to the blow up in relations in 1968/9). and then shortly after that maybe a year, two years later, it goes to WEST GERMANY (the name that was finally acceptable to both East and West Germany. the davep collection is fantastic. that one sticker that only lasts a little while with the space ready for the name. there will be i have no doubts plenty of other models across the VW range that recieved that label for a short time during the 75MY. and then Germany appears a little forlornly for a couple of years. because something has to go there. and then you get WEST GERMANY. ------ all the badges and plates on 914s are a great little record of history. the old karmann plate looking like it was unchanged since some time in the 50s. WESTERN GERMANY. the manuf plate which was provocative and is a response to the berlin wall and the high point of the cold war. GERMANY. then usa vin labels which are kind of coy and have nothing - until they have to. if the 914s had lasted a few more years they would have worn WEST GERMANY on the vin label. did not quite make it to that point in time. ----------- i think thats the reason the vin labels get redesigned. nothing to do with porsche vw company internal relations over a sub contracted car agreement. Attached image(s)
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DaveB 1975 Door DOT/VIN Sticker - Was CA different? Mar 11 2022, 10:29 PM
drem914 Is it possible just because it was printed with bl... Mar 11 2022, 11:26 PM
wonkipop one from my files. 75 1.8 from a cali car.
yours... Mar 12 2022, 12:59 AM
Shivers I put up a California tag, but wrong year . Mar 12 2022, 04:41 AM
StarBear Here's my MY74 (early) sticker. Silver and wit... Mar 12 2022, 08:56 AM
JeffBowlsby Here is my list of safety compliance labels for yo... Mar 12 2022, 10:13 AM
StarBear
Here is my list of safety compliance labels for y... Mar 12 2022, 10:32 AM

JeffBowlsby
[quote name='JeffBowlsby' post='2987549' date='Ma... Mar 12 2022, 10:37 AM
DaveB
Here is my list of safety compliance labels for y... Mar 12 2022, 01:20 PM
wonkipop
Here is my list of safety compliance labels for ... Mar 12 2022, 05:59 PM
JeffBowlsby The CA 1.8L & 2.0L had cats but I have not see... Mar 12 2022, 09:09 PM
drem914 Here is my 49 state, Chicago Ohare entry '75. ... Mar 12 2022, 10:53 PM
wonkipop
Here is my 49 state, Chicago Ohare entry '75.... Mar 12 2022, 11:15 PM

drem914 ok @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Mar 13 2022, 12:05 AM

wonkipop
[quote name='wonkipop' post='2987696' date='Mar 1... Mar 13 2022, 01:02 AM

drem914 thanks mate.
no rush, when you get time.
sounds l... Mar 13 2022, 12:12 PM
DaveB
Here is my 49 state, Chicago Ohare entry '75.... Mar 13 2022, 01:24 AM
wonkipop
[quote name='drem914' post='2987694' date='Mar 12... Mar 13 2022, 02:01 AM
JeffBowlsby Cool, thanks. Can you post the emissions label fr... Mar 12 2022, 11:13 PM
Van B Wasn’t planning on jumping into this thread unti... Mar 12 2022, 11:35 PM
wonkipop
Wasn’t planning on jumping into this thread unt... Mar 13 2022, 02:03 AM
DaveB
i'm going with the idea that all the best col... Mar 13 2022, 03:06 AM

wonkipop
i'm going with the idea that all the best co... Mar 13 2022, 04:00 AM
StarBear
Wasn’t planning on jumping into this thread un... Mar 13 2022, 07:10 AM
Van B
[quote name='wonkipop' post='2987707' date='Mar 1... Mar 13 2022, 10:53 AM
wonkipop
[quote name='wonkipop' post='2987707' date='Mar ... Mar 13 2022, 12:30 PM
wonkipop @DaveB
found a silver one in my files for you.
r... Mar 13 2022, 12:23 PM
Van B :lol4:
Those two cars show that there is truly a ... Mar 13 2022, 01:40 PM
burton73 My 76 mostly original paint car I sold to Dax in ... Mar 13 2022, 02:12 PM
wonkipop
My 76 mostly original paint car I sold to Dax in... Mar 14 2022, 04:15 PM
mrholland2
My 76 mostly original paint car I sold to Dax in... Mar 15 2022, 09:20 AM
JeffBowlsby I bet if someone wanted to, they could make list o... Mar 13 2022, 02:40 PM
wonkipop
I bet if someone wanted to, they could make list ... Mar 13 2022, 05:03 PM
davep I have about 165 of the 914/4 DOT compliance decal... Mar 13 2022, 05:39 PM
wonkipop
I have about 165 of the 914/4 DOT compliance deca... Mar 14 2022, 01:07 AM
wonkipop couldn't wait, went off and searched out answe... Mar 13 2022, 06:37 PM
wonkipop above is interesting in relation to a BAT car that... Mar 13 2022, 06:56 PM
JeffBowlsby As I recall Porsche reassumed a controlling intere... Mar 14 2022, 09:00 AM
StarBear
As I recall Porsche reassumed a controlling inter... Mar 14 2022, 09:37 AM
wonkipop
As I recall Porsche reassumed a controlling inter... Mar 14 2022, 03:32 PM
wonkipop
As I recall Porsche reassumed a controlling inter... Mar 14 2022, 07:25 PM
wonkipop
As I recall Porsche reassumed a controlling inter... Mar 16 2022, 06:04 PM
JeffBowlsby Late 74 is also the moment in time that the front ... Mar 14 2022, 10:27 AM
wonkipop
Late 74 is also the moment in time that the front... Mar 14 2022, 03:42 PM

wonkipop
[quote name='JeffBowlsby' post='2988041' date='Ma... Mar 14 2022, 04:29 PM
MCShack
Late 74 is also the moment in time that the front... Mar 15 2022, 02:26 PM
wonkipop i'm digging into this now.
a question for the... Mar 15 2022, 04:42 AM
JeffBowlsby I dont think of my self as any kind of expert, jus... Mar 15 2022, 06:42 AM
JeffBowlsby What to make of this label? Mar 15 2022, 02:38 PM
MCShack
What to make of this label?
Now that's a fun... Mar 15 2022, 04:03 PM

wonkipop
What to make of this label?
Now that's a fu... Mar 15 2022, 04:21 PM

wonkipop
What to make of this label?
Now that's a fu... Apr 29 2022, 04:59 PM
davep The manufacturer tag was not used on most 1976 911... Mar 15 2022, 07:21 PM
wonkipop
The manufacturer tag was not used on most 1976 91... Mar 15 2022, 09:05 PM
JeffBowlsby 1976 914s were USA market only. No ROW 76 914s. Mar 15 2022, 03:37 PM
wonkipop
1976 914s were USA market only. No ROW 76 914s.
... Mar 15 2022, 03:47 PM
wonkipop @JeffBowlsby
the 76 914 sort of proves something... Mar 15 2022, 04:06 PM
JeffBowlsby :poke: :evilgrin:
Look for Recall Campaign ... Mar 15 2022, 04:35 PM
wonkipop
:poke: :evilgrin:
Look for Recall campaign... Mar 15 2022, 04:43 PM
JeffBowlsby Mickeys post above depicts that the car is fully l... Mar 15 2022, 04:55 PM
wonkipop ^ admittedly they did have karmann plates.
but th... Mar 15 2022, 04:59 PM
wonkipop right.
so they were still doing both at that stag... Mar 15 2022, 05:12 PM
wonkipop ok
here are the vin stickers on 912E s
these cars... Mar 15 2022, 05:39 PM
wonkipop checked a few more 912Es on BAT.
all of them have ... Mar 15 2022, 06:22 PM
wonkipop @davep
i phoned up my mate.
i was in error. he ... Mar 15 2022, 10:15 PM
wonkipop here is a compliance plate from around the same ti... Mar 15 2022, 10:38 PM
wonkipop my mate rang back with more info.
admittedly we ar... Mar 16 2022, 03:57 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com we have three varieties that we currently punch wi... Mar 16 2022, 12:26 PM
StarBear
we have three varieties that we currently punch w... Mar 16 2022, 01:13 PM![]() ![]() |
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