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| DaveB |
Mar 11 2022, 10:29 PM
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| JeffBowlsby |
Mar 14 2022, 09:00 AM
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As I recall Porsche reassumed a controlling interest in the 914 in late 1974, so I wonder if the change in labeling was related to that?
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| wonkipop |
Mar 16 2022, 06:04 PM
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As I recall Porsche reassumed a controlling interest in the 914 in late 1974, so I wonder if the change in labeling was related to that? @JeffBowlsby @Davep the glitch (or rare) vin stickers that lasts for only a month or two at the beginning of 1975 is VW wide. it looks almost as if they rearrange the layout to create enough space for further words (name of country?) for the start of 75 calendar year and then don't include the name until the next batch of vin stickers in about late feb/early march 75. here are kombi/bus vin labels. same pattern of types as 914s in same chronology. slightly different text arrangements as they are not passenger cars. (two vin dates as some are kamper vans, second vin is interior kamper fit out). ![]() ![]() difficult to easily find van labels from 76 and 77. but by beginning of calendar year 78 it seems VW replace Germany with West Germany. some beetle info i had on file shows that in 76 and 77 vin labels on beetles were using Germany. Reasonable conclusion = VW adopt the name West Germany in 1978. but only for USA bound cars on USA Vin Labels. this all applies only to USA market cars. cars for the ROW / Europe (EU/Common market as it was known) go over to using the name West Germany in 1976 calendar year. these cars retain manufacturer ID plates. US market VWs lose the ID plates and transition to only having the Vin Label in the door. ------ USA cars VW probably drop the ID plate in USA cars as a rationalisation and economy. insignnificant on perhaps individual cars but across daily US export production it added up to a definite saving. as a result of dropping the manuf i.d. plate for USA, vw had to transfer the country of origin/manufacture on to the USA vin label. this appears to have been a series of changes for the first 6 months of calendar year 75. 914s probably illustrate the same transition on other VW product. 1. re designed sticker with space allocated for name. Jan/Feb 75. 2. addition of name - Germany - March 75 to end of MY 75 / approx july or aug 75. 3. introduction of 76 MY car, drops manuf id plate, has only vin label = to later 75MY cars. at step 1 VW seem to hesistate. possibly attempting to clarify when the name change of germany will be recognized by the US govt. after a couple of months it is confirmed. not a problem at that stage of the year as they still had man. i.d. plates on cars. ------- ROW/EU cars The EU is the first to recognize the new modified official name for Germany as West Germany. its adopted throughout those markets and territories for the ID plate in 76. It is highly likely that the USA did not formally recognize the modified official name of West Germany until some time later. safe to say just before 1978 if VW labels are trustworthy indications. I think they would be. VW was the only auto maker in germany where the german govt. was a significant stakeholder and had a place on the board (controlling interest). everything would have been crossed t-s and dotted i-s. conclusion. the Vin labels are the province of VW and have nothing to do with porsche. the Vin labels are tailored to the USA market only and reflect the protocols around wording and names particular to US - German relations. the ROW of world cars diverge and adopt a different protocol. -------- of interest. other car makers in germany seem to plough their own furrow regardless of official govt. protocols etc. MB are just made in germany from whoa to go. post war occupation / independence / economic miracle era/ post re-unfication. they never change their tune. Porsche adopt West Germany in 1976 on their USA vin labels. a full two years before VW. probably less proper. they don't wait around. but they don't have the german govt. looking over their shoulder on the board. i don't know about other carmakers. ----- i found a few more 75 Vin labels for 75 cars easily and quickly off BAT. the redesigned stickers without Germany written on them are restricted to the first 8 weeks of 75. the first stickers with germany included appear at the end of week 8. |
DaveB 1975 Door DOT/VIN Sticker - Was CA different? Mar 11 2022, 10:29 PM
drem914 Is it possible just because it was printed with bl... Mar 11 2022, 11:26 PM
wonkipop one from my files. 75 1.8 from a cali car.
yours... Mar 12 2022, 12:59 AM
Shivers I put up a California tag, but wrong year . Mar 12 2022, 04:41 AM
StarBear Here's my MY74 (early) sticker. Silver and wit... Mar 12 2022, 08:56 AM
JeffBowlsby Here is my list of safety compliance labels for yo... Mar 12 2022, 10:13 AM
StarBear
Here is my list of safety compliance labels for y... Mar 12 2022, 10:32 AM

JeffBowlsby
[quote name='JeffBowlsby' post='2987549' date='Ma... Mar 12 2022, 10:37 AM
DaveB
Here is my list of safety compliance labels for y... Mar 12 2022, 01:20 PM
wonkipop
Here is my list of safety compliance labels for ... Mar 12 2022, 05:59 PM
JeffBowlsby The CA 1.8L & 2.0L had cats but I have not see... Mar 12 2022, 09:09 PM
drem914 Here is my 49 state, Chicago Ohare entry '75. ... Mar 12 2022, 10:53 PM
wonkipop
Here is my 49 state, Chicago Ohare entry '75.... Mar 12 2022, 11:15 PM

drem914 ok @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Mar 13 2022, 12:05 AM

wonkipop
[quote name='wonkipop' post='2987696' date='Mar 1... Mar 13 2022, 01:02 AM

drem914 thanks mate.
no rush, when you get time.
sounds l... Mar 13 2022, 12:12 PM
DaveB
Here is my 49 state, Chicago Ohare entry '75.... Mar 13 2022, 01:24 AM
wonkipop
[quote name='drem914' post='2987694' date='Mar 12... Mar 13 2022, 02:01 AM
JeffBowlsby Cool, thanks. Can you post the emissions label fr... Mar 12 2022, 11:13 PM
Van B Wasn’t planning on jumping into this thread unti... Mar 12 2022, 11:35 PM
wonkipop
Wasn’t planning on jumping into this thread unt... Mar 13 2022, 02:03 AM
DaveB
i'm going with the idea that all the best col... Mar 13 2022, 03:06 AM

wonkipop
i'm going with the idea that all the best co... Mar 13 2022, 04:00 AM
StarBear
Wasn’t planning on jumping into this thread un... Mar 13 2022, 07:10 AM
Van B
[quote name='wonkipop' post='2987707' date='Mar 1... Mar 13 2022, 10:53 AM
wonkipop
[quote name='wonkipop' post='2987707' date='Mar ... Mar 13 2022, 12:30 PM
wonkipop @DaveB
found a silver one in my files for you.
r... Mar 13 2022, 12:23 PM
Van B :lol4:
Those two cars show that there is truly a ... Mar 13 2022, 01:40 PM
burton73 My 76 mostly original paint car I sold to Dax in ... Mar 13 2022, 02:12 PM
wonkipop
My 76 mostly original paint car I sold to Dax in... Mar 14 2022, 04:15 PM
mrholland2
My 76 mostly original paint car I sold to Dax in... Mar 15 2022, 09:20 AM
JeffBowlsby I bet if someone wanted to, they could make list o... Mar 13 2022, 02:40 PM
wonkipop
I bet if someone wanted to, they could make list ... Mar 13 2022, 05:03 PM
davep I have about 165 of the 914/4 DOT compliance decal... Mar 13 2022, 05:39 PM
wonkipop
I have about 165 of the 914/4 DOT compliance deca... Mar 14 2022, 01:07 AM
wonkipop couldn't wait, went off and searched out answe... Mar 13 2022, 06:37 PM
wonkipop above is interesting in relation to a BAT car that... Mar 13 2022, 06:56 PM
StarBear
As I recall Porsche reassumed a controlling inter... Mar 14 2022, 09:37 AM
wonkipop
As I recall Porsche reassumed a controlling inter... Mar 14 2022, 03:32 PM
wonkipop
As I recall Porsche reassumed a controlling inter... Mar 14 2022, 07:25 PM
JeffBowlsby Late 74 is also the moment in time that the front ... Mar 14 2022, 10:27 AM
wonkipop
Late 74 is also the moment in time that the front... Mar 14 2022, 03:42 PM

wonkipop
[quote name='JeffBowlsby' post='2988041' date='Ma... Mar 14 2022, 04:29 PM
MCShack
Late 74 is also the moment in time that the front... Mar 15 2022, 02:26 PM
wonkipop i'm digging into this now.
a question for the... Mar 15 2022, 04:42 AM
JeffBowlsby I dont think of my self as any kind of expert, jus... Mar 15 2022, 06:42 AM
JeffBowlsby What to make of this label? Mar 15 2022, 02:38 PM
MCShack
What to make of this label?
Now that's a fun... Mar 15 2022, 04:03 PM

wonkipop
What to make of this label?
Now that's a fu... Mar 15 2022, 04:21 PM

wonkipop
What to make of this label?
Now that's a fu... Apr 29 2022, 04:59 PM
davep The manufacturer tag was not used on most 1976 911... Mar 15 2022, 07:21 PM
wonkipop
The manufacturer tag was not used on most 1976 91... Mar 15 2022, 09:05 PM
wonkipop @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu... Mar 15 2022, 03:30 PM
JeffBowlsby 1976 914s were USA market only. No ROW 76 914s. Mar 15 2022, 03:37 PM
wonkipop
1976 914s were USA market only. No ROW 76 914s.
... Mar 15 2022, 03:47 PM
wonkipop @JeffBowlsby
the 76 914 sort of proves something... Mar 15 2022, 04:06 PM
JeffBowlsby :poke: :evilgrin:
Look for Recall Campaign ... Mar 15 2022, 04:35 PM
wonkipop
:poke: :evilgrin:
Look for Recall campaign... Mar 15 2022, 04:43 PM
JeffBowlsby Mickeys post above depicts that the car is fully l... Mar 15 2022, 04:55 PM
wonkipop ^ admittedly they did have karmann plates.
but th... Mar 15 2022, 04:59 PM
wonkipop right.
so they were still doing both at that stag... Mar 15 2022, 05:12 PM
wonkipop ok
here are the vin stickers on 912E s
these cars... Mar 15 2022, 05:39 PM
wonkipop checked a few more 912Es on BAT.
all of them have ... Mar 15 2022, 06:22 PM
wonkipop @davep
i phoned up my mate.
i was in error. he ... Mar 15 2022, 10:15 PM
wonkipop here is a compliance plate from around the same ti... Mar 15 2022, 10:38 PM
wonkipop my mate rang back with more info.
admittedly we ar... Mar 16 2022, 03:57 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com we have three varieties that we currently punch wi... Mar 16 2022, 12:26 PM
StarBear
we have three varieties that we currently punch w... Mar 16 2022, 01:13 PM![]() ![]() |
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