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| NARP74 |
Feb 21 2023, 10:54 AM
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I borrowed this pic from @skota23 in another topic. Does anyone know where to buy the hoses like this? I have seen and tried others but they have issues and I wanted to try these.
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| NARP74 |
Feb 22 2023, 09:24 AM
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I feel like Veruca Salt in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, "I want that one and I want it now"! I am not in a hurry, but my mind latched onto those hoses as the absolute perfect combination of form and function and anything else looks inferior. It might prove to be a fools errand but I will keep looking and I appreciate the commentary and involvement. Keep it coming...
So are the hoses in the pic the original hoses? NLA it seems The bughaus hose at least has the proper ID, 55mm, I will look at those some more. I also found these but need more info on them. https://www.cbperformance.com/product-p/1982.htm @Jett I'll send you a note. Thank you Part numbers I have found so far, but these are from a PET that shows the dual outlet fan motor, not the split adapter; L PCG 261 233 420mm which I assume is length R 461 261 235 A 960mm |
| wonkipop |
Feb 22 2023, 03:40 PM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,428 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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I feel like Veruca Salt in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, "I want that one and I want it now"! I am not in a hurry, but my mind latched onto those hoses as the absolute perfect combination of form and function and anything else looks inferior. It might prove to be a fools errand but I will keep looking and I appreciate the commentary and involvement. Keep it coming... So are the hoses in the pic the original hoses? NLA it seems The bughaus hose at least has the proper ID, 55mm, I will look at those some more. I also found these but need more info on them. https://www.cbperformance.com/product-p/1982.htm @Jett I'll send you a note. Thank you Part numbers I have found so far, but these are from a PET that shows the dual outlet fan motor, not the split adapter; L PCG 261 233 420mm which I assume is length R 461 261 235 A 960mm can understand completely. i went into this 5 years ago in what became a slightly obsessive quest to replace my original 74 single outlet hose. i wasn't going to give up. thinking-----its a VW part right, so i should be able to track one down somewhere? no luck - even armed with the right part #s and searching VW vintage parts suppliers etc. however i did have to trawl my way through the PET and associated VW parts catalogues like you are now. i was initially puzzled by that listing of the 920L hose as right side for early cars. 914/4 means early cars in PET. later are listed as 914/1.7 or 914/1.8. i drew a couple of conclusions. 1. the PET is misleading/incorrect. not the first time either. i have found numerous errors and blanks in the PET when it comes to the 74 1.8s. those hose numbers and descriptions are definitely incorrect for the early twin outlet fan cars. the R hose is 520mm long. the L hand hose is 420 Long. the hoses originally came from the VW parts bin and are for the 411/412 sedan blower hose setup. however that 960mm long hose is the one you are looking for to do the right hand side twin hose set up for the later single hose fan despite it being mistakenly identified for early twin outlet fan cars. either that or VW were cutting them down in length to install in 914s. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) 2. they couldn't even be bothered drawing the single hose fan set up to update the PET. it applies to the 73 models on. all the bits are just lumped as a group at the end of the parts list details. no key numbers back to the diagram because no diagram. they list two different hoses there with basically the same part number. that means the design/construction of the part was superseded. somehow they altered the way they made the hose. but there was only ever one hose and a single outlet fan from 73 on. anything with two hoses from 73 on is an owner mod or a dealer mod post factory. with parts coming from VW parts bin. and here is the VW parts bin. from 411/412 parts catalogue. i found this stuff years ago and its proved to be a handy resource at times as an alternative route to track down bits for the 914. VW germany host the site, its part of the business empire. generally however VW germany are useless in terms of classic parts supply. https://www.volkswagen-classic-parts.com/ca.../html5.html#/14 you can see there were 4 different hose lengths used by VW. and only 4. the 960 L hose listed in 914 PET agrees with the 960 L hose listed for the 411/412 variant - same part number. for the variant they used a short 300 and a long 960. ---- the 914 PET is misleading as it mistakenly puts that 960L hose in there for the early cars when it should list it as a 520. however despite the mistake, the 960L hose is the one the mod was done with for later post 73 cars. its easy to check. just put a tape measure in the engine bay. ----- all the different hoses in the cars that Porsche were using as their parts bin. and the dimensions given for hose diameters are amusing. the twin outlet fans appear to have used a 55mm diam on LHS and a 60mm diam on RHS. the single outlet fans used a 55mm diam hose both sides (or if you read the VW catalogue the dim is 55.5mm diam. germans! going to a decimal point!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) anyway. good luck. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) if you find out where to get these hoses let me know. i will want to get hold of one. i am happy enough with my make do effort at the moment, but i'd be happier with the real thing. it still grates on me what the guys did 30 years ago cutting it into two pieces and taping an extension hose in between. sometimes mechanics just do the stoopidist things. |
NARP74 Engine Compartment Blower Hose Feb 21 2023, 10:54 AM
brant watching this thread... I need one too. Feb 21 2023, 11:22 AM
emerygt350 914rubber I believe. I bought some last year. Ex... Feb 21 2023, 11:27 AM
NARP74
914rubber I believe. I bought some last year. E... Feb 21 2023, 11:31 AM
914werke I have heard that the longer hose can get sucked ... Feb 21 2023, 12:56 PM
GregAmy I tie-wrapped mine to a small bracket inserted und... Feb 21 2023, 01:07 PM
NARP74
I tie-wrapped mine to a small bracket inserted un... Feb 21 2023, 01:23 PM
930cabman NAPA has it, found it there last year, fit perfect... Feb 21 2023, 01:31 PM
Van B
NAPA has it, found it there last year, fit perfec... Feb 21 2023, 09:13 PM
wonkipop
[quote name='930cabman' post='3059806' date='Feb ... Feb 21 2023, 09:38 PM
930cabman
[quote name='930cabman' post='3059806' date='Feb ... Feb 22 2023, 02:57 PM

wonkipop
[quote name='930cabman' post='3059806' date='Feb... Feb 22 2023, 03:11 PM
930cabman
[quote name='930cabman' post='3059806' date='Feb ... Feb 22 2023, 05:56 PM
NARP74
[quote name='930cabman' post='3059806' date='Feb... Feb 22 2023, 06:35 PM

wonkipop
[quote name='Van B' post='3059955' date='Feb 21 ... Feb 22 2023, 06:44 PM

930cabman
[quote name='930cabman' post='3060170' date='Feb ... Feb 23 2023, 06:20 AM

Sprout
[quote name='930cabman' post='3060170' date='Feb ... Feb 23 2023, 03:08 PM
Van B
[quote name='930cabman' post='3059806' date='Feb... Feb 22 2023, 08:48 PM
wonkipop
[quote name='Van B' post='3059955' date='Feb 21 ... Feb 22 2023, 09:20 PM
914werke If found no one presently selling hoses that are t... Feb 21 2023, 01:32 PM
wonkipop ok
i've dealt with this problem.
30 years ago... Feb 21 2023, 04:37 PM
wonkipop here is page from 411/412 parts catalogue.
had it ... Feb 21 2023, 05:35 PM
Type 47
I borrowed this pic from [b]@[url=http://www.91... Feb 21 2023, 05:39 PM
NARP74 Maybe it is NLA, but the hose I saw there looked j... Feb 21 2023, 05:46 PM
wonkipop
Maybe it is NLA, but the hose I saw there looked ... Feb 21 2023, 05:58 PM
NARP74 I'll ask some of my sources to see what they m... Feb 21 2023, 06:02 PM
wonkipop
I'll ask some of my sources to see what they ... Feb 21 2023, 06:14 PM
71six The complete fan blower assembly and hoses are mis... Feb 21 2023, 06:48 PM
NARP74
The complete fan blower assembly and hoses are mi... Feb 21 2023, 06:51 PM
wonkipop
The complete fan blower assembly and hoses are mi... Feb 21 2023, 07:50 PM
bludden I got my car with the fan not installed, and no ho... Feb 21 2023, 09:43 PM
Jett The initial OE hose is NLA and most of the old one... Feb 21 2023, 10:04 PM
914Sixer Here is what I am using. It is made for high heat... Feb 22 2023, 07:04 AM
TheCabinetmaker Bughaus has them. Feb 22 2023, 07:33 AM
TheCabinetmaker https://www.bughaus.com/beetle_hoses.htm Feb 22 2023, 07:38 AM
NARP74 CB Performance hose is 50mm, they do not have any ... Feb 22 2023, 11:37 AM
zoomCat Anyone have experience with the URO stuff?
https:... Feb 22 2023, 01:16 PM
ClayPerrine
Anyone have experience with the URO stuff?
[url=... Feb 22 2023, 01:33 PM
rhodyguy They might look correct, but I wanted real heat. ... Feb 22 2023, 02:16 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com we have plenty, early cars 70-72 use dissimilar si... Feb 22 2023, 03:15 PM
NARP74
we have plenty, early cars 70-72 use dissimilar s... Feb 23 2023, 10:20 AM
wonkipop i also remember i developed a view on this change ... Feb 22 2023, 04:04 PM
NARP74 WOW @wonkipop you got way further than I did... Feb 22 2023, 04:04 PM
wonkipop
WOW [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.... Feb 22 2023, 04:17 PM
NARP74
WOW [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index... Feb 22 2023, 04:24 PM
wonkipop interesting observation by dr. 914 of auto atlanta... Feb 22 2023, 04:33 PM
NARP74 I agree @wonkipop I'll go by one in the nex... Feb 22 2023, 07:34 PM
NARP74 Another group I am in, someone mentioned things li... Feb 22 2023, 07:46 PM
Van B Thank you kind sir. As much as I like the aluminum... Feb 22 2023, 09:26 PM
wonkipop
Thank you kind sir. As much as I like the aluminu... Feb 22 2023, 09:33 PM
Van B
Thank you kind sir. As much as I like the alumin... Feb 22 2023, 09:45 PM
wonkipop
[quote name='wonkipop' post='3060238' date='Feb 2... Feb 22 2023, 09:56 PM
Dave_Darling I bought a 75-76 splitter for the fan on my 74. I... Feb 23 2023, 01:01 AM
GregAmy I have never seen a group of people get so intense... Feb 23 2023, 11:00 AM
930cabman
I have never seen a group of people get so intens... Feb 23 2023, 11:24 AM
914werke I was thinking the same! 3 pages about a hose(... Feb 23 2023, 11:08 AM
wonkipop
I was thinking the same! 3 pages about a hose... Feb 23 2023, 07:32 PM
NARP74 Passion! I love it! It's learning an... Feb 23 2023, 11:23 AM
rhodyguy Parts person…‘Oh man, not AGAIN! The guy i... Feb 23 2023, 11:54 AM
914Sixer Realized I posted the wrong hose. Here is the 55m... Feb 23 2023, 12:07 PM
NARP74 @Sprout Good confirmation Feb 23 2023, 06:03 PM
Van B Ha! Most of those pages are dead ends! A... Feb 23 2023, 07:49 PM
914werke Its nothing really special & could easily be d... Feb 24 2023, 12:27 PM
NARP74
Its nothing really special & could easily be ... Feb 24 2023, 12:35 PM
Mikey914 Funny thing is we have 2 camps her. The OEM hose i... Feb 24 2023, 01:51 PM
NARP74
Funny thing is we have 2 camps her. The OEM hose ... Feb 24 2023, 01:59 PM
NARP74 I'm not done flogging the equine yet! Feb 24 2023, 02:02 PM
wonkipop
I'm not done flogging the equine yet!
... Feb 24 2023, 03:15 PM
71six So my mid year 1973 914 2.0 came from the west coa... Feb 24 2023, 03:20 PM
NARP74
So my mid year 1973 914 2.0 came from the west co... Feb 24 2023, 03:47 PM
914werke Funny thing is we have 2 camps her. The OEM hose ... Feb 24 2023, 04:30 PM
wonkipop
[quote name='Mikey914' post='3060648' date='Feb 2... Feb 24 2023, 04:42 PM
rjames I'm just posting here to try and get this thre... Feb 24 2023, 05:11 PM
NARP74
I'm just posting here to try and get this thr... Feb 24 2023, 05:17 PM
914werke Well I was chasing an issue on MY car so.... pictu... Feb 24 2023, 05:42 PM
914werke Hose in question: 96.5cm nominal lenght Feb 24 2023, 05:56 PM
NARP74 @914werke OK, thanks for the pic. My first time ... Feb 24 2023, 06:06 PM
914werke [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Feb 24 2023, 06:29 PM
wonkipop turns out we are not the only ones out floggin hor... Feb 24 2023, 07:02 PM
NARP74 @wonkipop That's hilarious. I never think to... Feb 24 2023, 07:25 PM
NARP74 I ordered some of the napa/dorman hose, should be ... Feb 25 2023, 06:44 PM
malcolm2 Maybe my fan was just crappy.... But I installed t... Feb 26 2023, 08:49 AM
GregAmy Does anyone find this fan option even works?
Works... Feb 26 2023, 08:58 AM
NARP74 @malcolm2 Both types of older hoses can crack, ge... Feb 26 2023, 09:02 AM
malcolm2 i must have had a weak fan. Hoses were new and op... Feb 26 2023, 11:04 AM
wonkipop
Wonder what kinda flow is normal.
gale force... Feb 26 2023, 11:58 AM
skota23 I think what I've learned here is that my hose... Feb 27 2023, 01:09 PM
NARP74
I think what I've learned here is that my hos... Feb 27 2023, 02:25 PM
NARP74 Sorry to reopen this, hopefully we don't get t... Mar 4 2023, 01:15 PM
wonkipop
Sorry to reopen this, hopefully we don't get ... Mar 4 2023, 05:17 PM

GregAmy
i hope this doesn't flick it over to 6 pages.... Mar 6 2023, 10:02 AM

NARP74
i hope this doesn't flick it over to 6 pages... Mar 6 2023, 10:18 AM

GregAmy
[quote name='GregAmy' post='3062914' date='Mar 6 ... Mar 6 2023, 10:30 AM
930cabman
Sorry to reopen this, hopefully we don't get ... Mar 6 2023, 05:51 AM
NARP74
Sorry to reopen this, hopefully we don't get... Mar 6 2023, 09:42 AM
930cabman What was this all about anyways?? Mar 6 2023, 01:25 PM
NARP74
What was this all about anyways??
@930cabman I... Mar 6 2023, 05:23 PM
GregAmy Must...resist...keyboard...of death... Mar 6 2023, 07:30 PM![]() ![]() |
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