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| jhynesrockmtn |
Jun 21 2023, 07:30 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 447 Joined: 13-June 16 From: spokane wa Member No.: 20,100 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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Hi, working away on a refresh of some items on my Bumblebee. One of the items I want to address is the cheap carpet kit it has that has not been installed very well to boot.
I am going to place an order for a kit. The question is which color. I want to go with the German Loop. There is a black, early charcoal and late charcoal. Which color is the most appropriate for a Bumblebee with a black interior. ![]() |
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| JeffBowlsby |
Jun 23 2023, 10:46 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses & Beekeeper ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,222 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None
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A quick review of the 914 LE archives indicates that the the carpet change from charcoal to what I call ‘salt & pepper’ occurred in the 9th week of 1974 (as referenced to the Karmann plate). The records do not pinpoint the change to a specific VIN, as like most 914 changes, the two carpet colors are intermingled after introduction, indicating they were gradually introduced during that 9th week. Applies to the grey and tan carpet colors.
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| wonkipop |
Jun 24 2023, 04:51 PM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,480 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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A quick review of the 914 LE archives indicates that the the carpet change from charcoal to what I call ‘salt & pepper’ occurred in the 9th week of 1974 (as referenced to the Karmann plate). The records do not pinpoint the change to a specific VIN, as like most 914 changes, the two carpet colors are intermingled after introduction, indicating they were gradually introduced during that 9th week. Applies to the grey and tan carpet colors. yes mr b. that makes a lot of sense. march 1974. would make sense in relation to a lady called Gunhild Lijequist. VW started production of Golfs (Rabbits) in march 74. Karmann had already started small scale production of Sciroccos 6 months earlier in oct 73 (with supply to domestic market) before really firing up the production line for the 75 Scirocco in around aug 74. karmann was gearing up for the scirocco and winding down on the 914. https://www.news24.com/life/motoring/news/w...sign-20200826-3 this woman was the designer responsible for the fabulous tartan pattern seats that the 75 914s got. but she didn't design it for the 914. she was responsible for the upper range and sporty model water cooled interiors to make them a bit different. she started with the scirocco and went on to do the GTI interior. golf ball shifter. later GTI golfs got a similar tartan option as the earlier scirrocco. i recall there was another thread here a few weeks back asking about the tartan interiors in late 914s and where the idea came from. this is where they came from. she is probably responsible for the change in the carpet as well. i think all that was happening with the 914s was they were receiving supply of the same updated materials that were being introduced with the introduction of the new water cooled VWs. in particular the material palette that went with the upper range sporty models. ![]() |
jhynesrockmtn Carpet color/pattern correct for 1974 Jun 21 2023, 07:30 PM
r_towle Black
Check World Upholstrey Jun 21 2023, 07:47 PM
Freezin 914 Not sure on BB’s but late 74’s had Grey and Bl... Jun 21 2023, 08:07 PM
87m491 Mine looks just like this. At least it did until ... Jun 22 2023, 01:21 PM
Jett This is a stock BB carpet… I can get better pics... Jun 21 2023, 08:11 PM
scallyk9
This is a stock BB carpet… I can get better pic... Jun 22 2023, 12:43 PM
wonkipop
This is a stock BB carpet… I can get better pi... Jun 22 2023, 04:42 PM
JeffBowlsby Great thread. The LEs did have two different blac... Jun 22 2023, 01:16 PM
wonkipop my jan 74 car (not a SE) has the loop pile that @... Jun 22 2023, 04:32 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com german loop is probably the closest a purpleish bl... Jun 22 2023, 05:07 PM
jhynesrockmtn
german loop is probably the closest a purpleish b... Jun 23 2023, 08:17 PM
wonkipop @jhynesrockmtn
i took a scan back through the fi... Jun 23 2023, 03:19 PM
Freezin 914 My car is a 74 2.0, I will check and confirm build... Jun 23 2023, 05:26 PM
wonkipop digging through my L jet files a bit closer it loo... Jun 23 2023, 08:39 PM
wonkipop here are some more for you @jhynesrockmtn
i had... Jun 23 2023, 09:00 PM
wonkipop as an aside @JeffBowlsby and not off topic when... Jun 24 2023, 05:32 PM
jhynesrockmtn So, in summary @wonkipop , [b]@[url=http://www.9... Jun 25 2023, 01:18 PM
Jett
So, in summary [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/... Jun 25 2023, 02:41 PM
wonkipop
So, in summary [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/... Jun 25 2023, 05:03 PM
L-Jet914
So, in summary [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com... Jun 30 2023, 07:31 PM
Mikey914 Learn something everyday.
I have a pretty much ... Jun 25 2023, 03:36 PM
JeffBowlsby That’s the later carpet. ‘Salt & pepperâ€... Jun 30 2023, 09:10 PM
wonkipop
That’s the later carpet. ‘Salt & pepperâ... Jul 1 2023, 03:20 AM
Mikey914 I was a little surprised, but yes the salt and p... Jun 30 2023, 10:16 PM
wonkipop @JeffBowlsby [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/b... Jul 1 2023, 03:31 AM
Mikey914 To be clear, if you order the salt and pepper off ... Jul 1 2023, 10:35 AM
JeffBowlsby In RE: the carpets for the black bumblebees &c... Jul 1 2023, 03:36 PM
wonkipop @Mikey914
you have to be cautious these days mat... Jul 1 2023, 09:05 PM
cholland_
as a side note the scirocco, golf and passat (rab... Jul 4 2023, 12:45 PM
r_towle
as a side note the scirocco, golf and passat (ra... Jul 4 2023, 04:15 PM

wonkipop
[quote name='cholland_' post='3087366' date='Jul ... Jul 4 2023, 05:59 PM
wonkipop
[quote name='wonkipop' post='3086913' date='Jul 1... Jul 4 2023, 04:46 PM
cholland_
as noted in the post i have never been able to fi... Jul 5 2023, 09:57 AM
wonkipop
as noted in the post i have never been able to f... Jul 5 2023, 05:37 PM
wonkipop
as noted in the post i have never been able to f... Jul 5 2023, 05:42 PM
wonkipop
Very interesting about the plastic fuel tank... Jul 5 2023, 06:05 PM
Mikey914 You know what's really funny, my 1st car was ... Jul 2 2023, 01:07 PM
wonkipop
You know what's really funny, my 1st car was... Jul 2 2023, 04:44 PM
Van B Timely conversation, I’m a couple days late, but... Jul 3 2023, 01:19 PM
wonkipop
Timely conversation, I’m a couple days late, bu... Jul 3 2023, 04:41 PM
Van B Ok. So, not much value added then lol…
Too bad ... Jul 3 2023, 05:54 PM
wonkipop
Ok. So, not much value added then lol…
Too bad... Jul 3 2023, 07:11 PM
StarBear Yep; just exactly like my old ones! Original t... Jul 3 2023, 06:03 PM
r_towle For the carpet, ask
World Upholstrey
Worlduph.com... Jul 4 2023, 04:21 PM
wonkipop @cholland
this is about the best i can find on re... Jul 4 2023, 05:35 PM
wonkipop on a less esoteric historical level :D and gettin... Jul 4 2023, 10:28 PM
JeffBowlsby 928s do have plastic fuel tanks, they are a thick,... Jul 5 2023, 10:10 AM
wonkipop communication from deep down the rabbit hole.
(i h... Jul 7 2023, 03:12 AM
wonkipop and here is one from the bottom of the seabed.
sur... Jul 7 2023, 03:46 AM![]() ![]() |
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