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| 73-914 |
Jun 3 2024, 07:54 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 637 Joined: 24-April 10 From: Albany UpstateNY Member No.: 11,651 Region Association: None
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Sounds like a great way for EV's to pay their fair share
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| burton73 |
Jun 3 2024, 11:39 AM
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Senior member, and old dude ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,928 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 7,414 Region Association: Southern California
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From California’s own Road Charge site
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| nathanxnathan |
Jun 3 2024, 12:18 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 294 Joined: 16-February 18 From: Laguna Beach, CA Member No.: 21,899 Region Association: Southern California |
From California’s own Road Charge site Best Bob B ![]() Just a little research on that as it makes no sense, "The standard calculation is that road wear goes up as the square (conservatively; fourth power is well documented for heavy trucks) of the weight. So the Hummer (9500 lbs) causes about 100 times the damage of a Prius (3000 lbs). Even at the conservative second power, it causes 10 times as much damage. Heavier vehicles of course also require that bridges be built for heavier loads, increasing their built cost as well as maintenance." according to this articlehttps://gettingaroundsac.blog/2023/12/16/road-charge/ Hard to swallow that it would be the same. Easier to believe 10x or even 100x imo |
| SirAndy |
Jun 3 2024, 01:36 PM
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Resident German ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 42,373 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Hard to swallow that it would be the same I think what they are really trying to say here is that anything under 10k pounds is peanuts compared to a loaded semi truck (40k-80k). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
| wonkipop |
Jun 3 2024, 01:44 PM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,300 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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Hard to swallow that it would be the same I think what they are really trying to say here is that anything under 10k pounds is peanuts compared to a loaded semi truck (40k-80k). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) yeah road crews are always out fixing the left hand lanes of the interstates here. (read that as right hand lane in your mirror world). they get pounded into destruction by the semis. as an aside the cops down here are pushing for bikes and electric scooters to also pay a road use registration fee. ok they are pretty light weight, but the argument is that portion of the road dedicated to bike lanes etc still requires maintenance. the rise of the dedicated bike lane has opened new cost obligations and cars can't use it. |
73-914 Calafornia Road Charge Jun 3 2024, 07:54 AM
SirAndy https://dot.ca.gov/programs/road-charge
:shades2... Jun 3 2024, 09:02 AM
Optimusglen edit - nevermind, found the other page with FAQs. Jun 3 2024, 09:29 AM
windforfun This reminds me of the old NY State Thruway. Your... Jun 3 2024, 09:41 AM
nathanxnathan I think a better idea would be to make weight of a... Jun 3 2024, 10:22 AM
Montreal914 Without getting political, it makes sense to me; y... Jun 3 2024, 10:29 AM
Steve They have been talking about this in CA for quite ... Jun 3 2024, 10:44 AM
mb911 That’s sounds like a good thing. Jun 3 2024, 10:48 AM
flipb Virginia implemented something like California... Jun 3 2024, 11:14 AM
nathanxnathan
Hard to swallow that it would be the same
I thi... Jun 3 2024, 03:02 PM
bkrantz
[quote name='SirAndy' post='3148965' date='Jun 3 ... Jun 3 2024, 06:51 PM
mate914
[quote name='SirAndy' post='3148965' date='Jun 3 ... Jun 4 2024, 05:08 AM
VaccaRabite
Have any idea what that would do to your price f... Jun 4 2024, 08:56 AM
ClayPerrine
[quote name='mate914' post='3149036' date='Jun 4 ... Jun 4 2024, 10:47 AM
VaccaRabite
[quote name='mate914' post='3149036' date='Jun 4... Jun 4 2024, 10:57 AM
VaccaRabite Hah. If adopted nationally I could see this absol... Jun 3 2024, 12:01 PM
technicalninja The interesting data would be the percentage of ro... Jun 3 2024, 12:15 PM
wonkipop the govt. just attempted such an EV levy in my sta... Jun 3 2024, 01:34 PM
Montreal914 :lol: What next, sidewalk and pedestrians? Dogs? Jun 3 2024, 01:48 PM
wonkipop
:lol: What next, sidewalk and pedestrian? Dogs?
... Jun 3 2024, 01:58 PM

Shivers
its illegal for a cat to be outside the house --... Jun 3 2024, 02:21 PM

wonkipop
its illegal for a cat to be outside the house -... Jun 3 2024, 04:10 PM
Chris914n6
:lol: What next, sidewalk and pedestrians? Dogs?
... Jun 3 2024, 06:57 PM
914_teener I have a 2022 Maverick registered and plated in CA... Jun 3 2024, 01:53 PM
Montreal914 NARP 914 fits into the "smart car" categ... Jun 3 2024, 03:06 PM
technicalninja I think they are talking about a tractor in the se... Jun 3 2024, 07:08 PM
nathanxnathan
I think they are talking about a tractor in the s... Jun 3 2024, 08:40 PM
dhuckabay The joke we have in South Africa is that the smart... Jun 3 2024, 09:29 PM
Shivers Yesterday I paid 5.05 a gallon and now they want t... Jun 4 2024, 07:49 AM
Spoke There was a pilot program in the Infrastructure bi... Jun 4 2024, 08:31 AM
mrholland2
There was a pilot program in the Infrastructure b... Jun 4 2024, 09:25 AM
Craigers17 While this might be a step in the right direction ... Jun 4 2024, 09:01 AM
VaccaRabite The issue that I see are the people (and long haul... Jun 4 2024, 09:05 AM
mepstein
The issue that I see are the people (and long hau... Jun 5 2024, 08:10 AM
nathanxnathan My work is 25 miles from where I live, so driving ... Jun 4 2024, 09:08 AM
mrholland2
My work is 25 miles from where I live, so driving... Jun 5 2024, 10:14 AM
rhodyguy I don’t know about where you guys live, but stud... Jun 4 2024, 09:34 AM
technicalninja No politician, left or right, will remove any ta... Jun 4 2024, 10:58 AM
flipb The double-taxation scenario is a pretty distant h... Jun 4 2024, 11:30 AM
Amphicar770 An EV tax is simply an opening play towards moving... Jun 4 2024, 11:32 AM
JeffBowlsby The solution seems easy, just figure out how much ... Jun 4 2024, 07:58 PM
flipb
The solution seems easy, just figure out how much... Jun 5 2024, 07:16 AM
JeffBowlsby
The solution seems easy, just figure out how muc... Jun 5 2024, 09:11 AM
Tbrown4x4 I’m a little late here, but WA charged me a “w... Jun 4 2024, 08:36 PM
Front yard mechanic :driving-girl: Jun 4 2024, 08:59 PM
KELTY360
In New Mexico they charge you on the amount of gu... Jun 4 2024, 09:10 PM
mate914
In New Mexico they charge you on the amount of g... Jun 5 2024, 04:54 AM
technicalninja I've got a way that it will work. :devil: :de... Jun 5 2024, 08:23 AM
mepstein Taxing gasoline at a gas station makes sense. Itâ€... Jun 5 2024, 09:09 AM
wonkipop
Taxing gasoline at a gas station makes sense. Itâ... Jun 5 2024, 04:55 PM
technicalninja Too logical!
Only works in California as many... Jun 5 2024, 11:04 AM
Chris914n6 EVs are new enough they already have location data... Jun 5 2024, 12:44 PM
SirAndy EVs are new enough they already have location data... Jun 5 2024, 07:08 PM
Justinp71 Would have to do it like they charge for insurance... Jun 5 2024, 02:33 PM
Montreal914 Very interesting... How can we know if an older ca... Jun 5 2024, 08:05 PM
SirAndy
Very interesting... How can we know if an older c... Jun 5 2024, 08:19 PM
technicalninja A car can be "connected" without the per... Jun 5 2024, 08:40 PM
Superhawk996
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php... Jun 5 2024, 11:03 PM![]() ![]() |
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