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> New car vs. Restored classic?, What are the possibilities?
JeffBowlsby
post Oct 15 2025, 10:03 PM
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In another post it was said. ‘Wife bought a new Bronco in 2022. We sold it a few months ago and bought a 1972 Bronco to replace it.’

Been pondering the same dilemma. Not talking about sports cars in this thread.

New cars are expensive to buy, maintain, repair and insure. Loaded with tech, and numerous features they can be very complicated. Even lower cost new cars can fit this description. A recent article says new cars average $50K now, even an F150 pickup is reportedly $65K. The new cars we really want can be over six figures. New cars depreciate like rocks whereas vintage car values are much more stable. I’m thinking fully restored cars that would pass a thorough PPI. No project cars. No complicated cars. No “they only made X of these” with an inflated cost. No 40 Ford restorods or Model As. Nothing particularly ostentatious.

I think the possibilities, risks, rewards of a good quality vintage car instead of new could be advantageous. We need to consider at least reliability, availability of shops that can provide service, parts availability. Certainly reasonable safety is important which most older cars are not well equipped. Collector insurance may help reduce costs if that fits the situation.

Which specific vehicles would you consider as good candidates for a family car be it a sedan, SUV or minivan? Both domestic and imports, low mileage, well cared for. Condition is more important than collectibility. Probably A/C is a must but could be retrofitted. Want to focus on vehicles that would be reliable as daily drivers.

I am thinking of 60s-70s Chevys, Fords, 2000s Hondas and Toyotas. 1975 and earlier would be beneficial to those of us in CA. Valued at something less than $50K. What are your ideas?
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post Oct 16 2025, 06:12 AM
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There are a lot of advantages to older cars, some of which you extol. Another is simply overall cost: cheaper insurance, and cheaper property taxes. In CT, any car on a classic plate is assessed at $500 for property tax purposes. The insurance on my 2011 GTi is 2/3 of what it is for my wife's 10-yr-newer car.

And I can work on all of those.

I have a 1974 914 street car, which IMO is too old to be a good daily all-year driver. Too small, too tinny, no good radio, no good insulation, marginal heater for CT, etc. Plus, its value is increasing way too much to justify driving it daily. It's a "classic" and I treat it as such.

I also have a 1992 968. This is more of a modern car and represents an era where having a classic becomes rational. Still capable of being worked on and still fun to drive but stronger, safer, better equipment. It feels modern and is engaging.

Right now, the 1990s is the sweet spot.

And then there's the 2011 GTI. That car came to me new and it replaced a 2000 Audi S4, which I adored. But the Audi was more complex, had some equipment with a history of regular failure (suspension links and turbos) and was expensive to own once it started getting on in miles. I replaced is with the GTI for those reason and that replacement has been a delight in operation and maintenance since.

Its one concern is Northeast rust, of course. I'm since "pretired" (laid off and not looking hard) but if I had to commute daily in CT I'd give that last statement second thought.

When the 968 arrived, and I got all its DAPO stuff fixed, I often quoted myelf out loud, "if anything ever happens to the GTI, I'll just dump it and daily drive the 968." Well, something happened to the GTI a couple weeks ago:

https://tgadrivel.blogspot.com/2025/09/on-r...y-bus-ride.html

I began to give thought to if I was gonna follow that advice and I decided that, no, the GTI gives me enough utility that instead of taking a check and running, it's worth saving. So I am.

Where am I going with this? For this crowd, I suggest the sweet spots are 1990s through 2010s. Before that they're "too classic", and after that they're "too complicated and spendy". For example, if the GTI cannot be repaired, I'd probably look at a mid-00s Acura TSX with a K24A2, 205hp, 6-speed, fantastic chassis, approachable maintenance/repair. Or maybe another Mk6 GTI. Or maybe I'd jump on the B-series wagon with a late-90s Integra GSR with the B18C1.

Lots of options when you stop thinking you need a new car. - GA
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JeffBowlsby   New car vs. Restored classic?   Oct 15 2025, 10:03 PM
fiacra   I have to say I have been loving the 1983 Volvo 24...   Oct 15 2025, 10:34 PM
wonkipop   one word - toyota. one decade - 90s. its called a...   Oct 16 2025, 02:26 AM
Superhawk996   one word - toyota. one decade - 90s. :agree: ...   Oct 16 2025, 06:58 AM
wonkipop   one word - toyota. one decade - 90s. :agree: ...   Oct 16 2025, 03:22 PM
Dave_Darling   90s Honda Civics. You probably remember my CRX--t...   Oct 16 2025, 02:50 AM
Jack Standz   Arguably better than a bronco. Porsche 955 (or 95...   Oct 16 2025, 04:20 AM
mepstein   Arguably better than a bronco. Porsche 955 (or 9...   Oct 16 2025, 06:05 AM
mepstein   Classic car insurance only really works if you hav...   Oct 16 2025, 04:38 AM
JeffBowlsby   Classic car insurance only really works if you ha...   Oct 16 2025, 10:32 AM
emerygt350   When I was looking for my mustang I was considerin...   Oct 16 2025, 05:21 AM
Lockwodo   When I was looking for my mustang I was consideri...   Oct 16 2025, 10:03 AM
GregAmy   There are a lot of advantages to older cars, some ...   Oct 16 2025, 06:12 AM
flipb   I've been daydreaming lately about maybe getti...   Oct 16 2025, 06:44 AM
Jack Standz   I also have a 1992 968. This is more of a modern ...   Oct 16 2025, 07:01 AM
carr914   all of my cars are Old ( kinda like me :D ) I da...   Oct 16 2025, 07:06 AM
Optimusglen   Taking Classic to be 30 years old or older, the 90...   Oct 16 2025, 07:44 AM
brant   I have 5 cars and many motorcycles The newest is...   Oct 16 2025, 08:10 AM
Superhawk996   Maintenance is my specialty and they all need i...   Oct 16 2025, 08:38 AM
Steve   I also love Toyotas. We have a 2002 sequoia with ...   Oct 16 2025, 08:14 AM
Root_Werks   Don't use Collector car insurance or Collector...   Oct 16 2025, 11:13 AM
Superhawk996   It's hard to think a 2025 mainstream vehicle ...   Oct 16 2025, 11:30 AM
gereed75   I am also an older car guy. Just picked up a low m...   Oct 16 2025, 01:34 PM
Cfletch   I daily a 1982 W123 Wagon, its super easy to work ...   Oct 16 2025, 01:57 PM
brant   This thread got me to thinking about my junk 10 a...   Oct 16 2025, 02:02 PM
Root_Werks   This thread got me to thinking about my junk 10 ...   Oct 16 2025, 02:18 PM
930cabman   This thread got me to thinking about my junk 10 ...   Oct 16 2025, 02:34 PM
Root_Werks   This thread got me to thinking about my junk 10...   Oct 16 2025, 02:51 PM
brant   All but one The 71’ bmw R75 has its motor in Aus...   Oct 16 2025, 02:48 PM
chmillman   My 'daily driver' is a 2006 Honda FRV - ne...   Oct 16 2025, 03:11 PM
bkrantz   I don't know. I think our biases are showing,...   Oct 16 2025, 09:37 PM
wonkipop   I don't know. I think our biases are showing...   Oct 17 2025, 05:08 AM
Superhawk996   I don't know. I think our biases are showing...   Oct 17 2025, 09:46 AM
bkrantz   I don't know. I think our biases are showin...   Oct 17 2025, 07:53 PM
Superhawk996   IMO basic comfort (not entertainment or distrac...   Oct 17 2025, 08:21 PM
DennisV   In another post it was said. ‘Wife bought a new...   Oct 17 2025, 04:51 AM
Superhawk996   I enjoy wrenching, but am very reluctant to work ...   Oct 17 2025, 10:09 AM
DennisV   Why? OBDII makes things easier. In the majority...   Oct 18 2025, 06:36 AM
Superhawk996   I used to take my '97 Boxster to a competent...   Oct 18 2025, 07:42 AM
930cabman   My DD has been an F150 for a few decades, I purcha...   Oct 17 2025, 05:00 AM
Front yard mechanic   I have a simple method at least one car from every...   Oct 17 2025, 06:07 AM
mepstein   I'll drive most anything. My wife won't. S...   Oct 17 2025, 06:25 AM
Superhawk996   I'll drive most anything. My wife won't. ...   Oct 17 2025, 09:55 AM
rjames   In my family I've seen Toyotas and Hondas run ...   Oct 17 2025, 10:15 AM
Root_Werks   My wife bought her first ever new car last year....   Oct 17 2025, 12:07 PM
Literati914   Those powered mirrors that close when you hit lock...   Oct 17 2025, 12:04 PM
Lockwodo   Old cars have personality and are more fun to driv...   Oct 17 2025, 12:09 PM
peteinjp   Funny to me to think of a car from 2000 on as old....   Oct 17 2025, 07:02 PM
Montreal914   I miss daily driving my 73 914. :driving:   Oct 17 2025, 10:49 PM
infraredcalvin   I’m surprised nobody has mentioned E30 BMW, i ha...   Oct 18 2025, 01:43 AM
JeffBowlsby   We are in a paradigm shift. Broadly speaking, Bo...   Oct 18 2025, 08:30 AM
Superhawk996   We are in a paradigm shift. Broadly speaking, ...   Oct 18 2025, 10:50 AM
wonkipop   We are in a paradigm shift. Broadly speaking, B...   Oct 19 2025, 12:44 AM
chmillman   We are in a paradigm shift. Broadly speaking, M...   Oct 19 2025, 02:51 AM
bkrantz   We are in a paradigm shift. Broadly speaking, B...   Oct 19 2025, 08:01 PM
didenpx   I had a 2020 base GTI with 6-speed and still very ...   Oct 18 2025, 09:33 AM
Jett   Bought this fellow off BAT a couple of weeks ago...   Oct 19 2025, 09:58 AM
didenpx   Bought this fellow off BAT a couple of weeks ago...   Oct 19 2025, 11:08 AM
campbellcj   100-Series Land Cruiser or Lexus LX470 is one of t...   Oct 19 2025, 10:52 AM
Chris914n6   90s are kinda the sweet spot. Multi-port FI on a b...   Oct 19 2025, 11:22 PM


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