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> Clutch/flywheel Gurus, What does this indicate?
Joseph Mills
post May 7 2005, 05:53 PM
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The flywheel pictured below has 5k miles on it along with a new pressure plate, clutch disc, throw out bearing, etc.

Clutch slips under full immediate throttle from a healthy four.

What are all the "spots" an indication of?


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Jake Raby
post May 9 2005, 10:06 PM
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It looks as if the disc center was interfering with the flywheel bolts...

Anyway, the off the shelf new flywheels are pretty shitty. I never trust their tolerance from the top to bottom surfaces. I do not see any signs of the disc having grease or oil on it but it has definately been slipping.. Maybe you had it slightly overadjusted. The tell tale signs of that are easy to spot on the surface that the release bearing rides on the pressure plate.. in 5K it should hardly be worn if it was not overadjusted.

The stock set up is good for 160 lb/ft of torque. With my mods to the flywheel I can push 170 through one with a stock disc. After that we can go up to 185 with my feramic disc with the stock pressure plate.. After that the stage II pressure plate is a must but can be used with a stock disc up to 225 lb/ft and thats almost enough to hold my 3 liter..

Also to all you guys changing flywheel seals:
ENSURE that you change the flywheel O Ring when doing the seal.. The O ring is the most likely source of failure and they are very non forgiving... The ones they give you with the gasket sets suck, I have had some made up that are the proper size, not .040 too big like the ones in the gasket sets...
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Joseph Mills   Clutch/flywheel Gurus   May 7 2005, 05:53 PM
bondo   It looks like grease or oil got on there, (radial ...   May 7 2005, 06:41 PM
Headrage   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/h...   May 7 2005, 06:44 PM
TimT   To much grease in the pilot bearing. from the amo...   May 7 2005, 06:45 PM
Joseph Mills   I guess that the "radial" streaks are from the gre...   May 7 2005, 06:57 PM
davep   The spots look like burn marks. Possibly burnt gre...   May 7 2005, 07:09 PM
Joseph Mills   Brand spankin' new flywheel. New disc, pressu...   May 7 2005, 07:43 PM
Joseph Mills   Actually, I guess I mis-spoke again.   May 8 2005, 12:31 AM
Joseph Mills     May 8 2005, 12:35 AM
SirAndy   ...   May 8 2005, 12:38 AM
Joseph Mills     May 8 2005, 12:48 AM
SirAndy   ...   May 8 2005, 12:57 AM
V6914   Even though, it's new, it's the probally t...   May 8 2005, 01:28 AM
Joseph Mills     May 8 2005, 01:55 AM
Thorshammer   They are just what you think they are, Hot spots. ...   May 8 2005, 10:23 AM
V6914   At, what point in the 5,000 miles did the clutch s...   May 8 2005, 10:49 AM
Travis Neff   Could it be as simple as the clutch being too tigh...   May 8 2005, 11:00 AM
McMark   What does the other side of the disk look like? I...   May 8 2005, 11:22 AM
Thorshammer   Yes, Mcmark does have the same valid points. But ...   May 8 2005, 05:54 PM
type47   anybody have info on Sachs pressure plates, that i...   May 8 2005, 06:11 PM
Joseph Mills   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/h...   May 9 2005, 05:22 AM
Joseph Mills   Today I made some real progress. This morning, whi...   May 9 2005, 05:27 PM
McMark   Glad to hear it worked out... http...   May 9 2005, 06:53 PM
Jake Raby   It looks as if the disc center was interfering wit...   May 9 2005, 10:06 PM
Reiche   ...   May 9 2005, 10:47 PM
Joseph Mills   I don't know how it is supposed to be, but her...   May 9 2005, 11:10 PM
Joseph Mills     May 9 2005, 11:12 PM
McMark   I'd also check your pressure plate friction su...   May 10 2005, 04:38 AM
Joseph Mills   Installed a new clutch disc last night. Checked t...   May 11 2005, 12:40 PM
Cap'n Krusty     May 11 2005, 01:22 PM


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