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> Michellin sucks, -ruined the USGP
seanery
post Jun 19 2005, 12:06 PM
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(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/finger.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/finger.gif) I can't believe it. WTF. Michellin, in it's 6th year here, can't create a tire that will will finish the race? WTF.

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post Jun 19 2005, 10:09 PM
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QUOTE (cdmcse @ Jun 19 2005, 10:28 PM)
I think the FIA screwed the pooch here. They should have came to some compromise with the teams, whatever it took. Reguardless of rules or whatever, F1 would not exists without the fans. However I don't think the drivers should uneccisarily be required to endanger thier life with a faulty part, when a better one exists and is available. Safety should be number one. Period.


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I was out there all weekend too. It seems to me that FIA (Mosley?) could have tried to work something out so that there would still have been a race. I didn't pay $105 for my seat to watch a Bridgestone tire test. Many of the people who were around me at the start of the "race" had left by lap 15. Everyone in attendance was furious. I can only imagine how pissed off all the sponsors for McLaren, Toyota, et al, not to mention the race sponsors (Allianz, Orange, RBS, et al) must feel. You could probably hear the collective channel change all over the world once everyone realized that the race was f'ed. The only reason any of those companies support events like this is because they view it as a great advertising opportunity.

I was impressed by the Ferrari drivers' candor on the podium, but Schumi's remarks during the press conference made me feel worse about the day. I've heard all the rumors about Ferrari rejecting the bid for a chicane, and supposed collaboration w/FIA against the Michelin teams. I don't know what to believe on that. I think that if Ferrari had stepped up and forced the safety issue, then maybe FIA would have worked harder to develop a solution that worked for everyone. I won't fault Jordan or Minardi for fielding their cars though -- both those teams struggle mightily to participate that they need all the sponsorship exposure they can muster. Scoring points is a means to that end....

There was concern that the tires were unsafe, Michelin took the RESPONSIBLE action to notify everyone of the safety concern. I don't know what the problem is/was, or why it occurred, but it did and they recognized it and told everyone that the tires may not be safe. However mad I am about today's outcome, I would have been infinitely more upset had they not said anything and a driver, corner worker, or spectator was injured from an accident. The liability is enormous! I will gladly sacrifice my $105 ticket to make sure that myself, the drivers, the corner workers, and other spectators don't have to be put at an unnecessary risk just to watch cars go fast. At it was today, I was absolutely horrified to see people throwing trash onto the circuit. My heart skipped a beat everytime I saw a corner worker dash onto the tarmac to pick up a bottle or can. That was totally inexcusable, and I totally support the remorseless beating of anyone who threw stuff onto the track.

All in all, a sh*tty day. Shame on Michelin for not doing their homework. Shame on the FIA for not trying to develop an acceptable compromise, and then forcing some teams to make a tough call that could put the safety of everyone at IMS today at risk, with the alternative that they instead retire. Shame on a small group of attendees who took an unhappy event and turned it ugly. That is really not the impression that We want to portray on world television of our city (and by extension, our country and citizenry). There was never any need to throw debris onto the track at any time.
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seanery   Michellin sucks   Jun 19 2005, 12:06 PM
Thorshammer   Is it Michelin or Ecclestone or Max Mosley with th...   Jun 19 2005, 12:26 PM
Jeroen   Yes, Michelin f-ed up BIG TIME... but IMO it's...   Jun 19 2005, 12:43 PM
TimT   Did ya notice Speed is still running the Michelin ...   Jun 19 2005, 01:08 PM
lapuwali   Completely agree. This is down to Max and Bernie....   Jun 19 2005, 01:09 PM
goose2   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/h...   Jun 19 2005, 01:09 PM
serge914   From what I understand Ferrari is the only that di...   Jun 19 2005, 01:20 PM
Thorshammer   Serge, What are your sources?? Because I just got...   Jun 19 2005, 01:53 PM
Britain Smith   ...   Jun 19 2005, 02:17 PM
serge914   According to the Canadian television, Radio Canada...   Jun 19 2005, 02:24 PM
Thorshammer   Thanks for the source! But the track has been...   Jun 19 2005, 02:44 PM
Mrs. K   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/...   Jun 19 2005, 02:58 PM
Mrs. K     Jun 19 2005, 03:46 PM
racejoe   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/h...   Jun 19 2005, 04:32 PM
goose2  
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Jeroen  
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J P Stein     Jun 19 2005, 08:15 PM
F1rocco   Put In a Chicane......Come on....Give me a break.....   Jun 19 2005, 08:36 PM
redshift   I haven't had one of their tires since maybe x...   Jun 19 2005, 08:38 PM
cdmcse   Well guys I was at the GP all weekend and let me t...   Jun 19 2005, 09:28 PM
Thorshammer   I don't quite understand your post. And please...   Jun 19 2005, 09:49 PM
jimtab     Jun 19 2005, 09:57 PM
mudfoot76     Jun 19 2005, 10:09 PM
mihai914   IMHO, it's all about politics. Point is nobody...   Jun 19 2005, 10:22 PM
seanery   Michellin bears full responsibility for what happe...   Jun 19 2005, 10:28 PM
mihai914     Jun 19 2005, 10:37 PM
jimtab   He really did....what an assbag.   Jun 19 2005, 10:50 PM
redshift   Calm down Lisa, he was refering to the gimp he dre...   Jun 19 2005, 11:02 PM
Mrs. K   http://www.914world.com/bb...   Jun 19 2005, 11:07 PM
lapuwali   While Michelin f-ed up, it was clearly the FIA and...   Jun 19 2005, 11:45 PM
Jeroen   ...   Jun 20 2005, 03:54 AM
F1rocco   Penalize them...Most of them wouldnt be able to fi...   Jun 20 2005, 06:26 AM
Jeroen   <...   Jun 20 2005, 06:35 AM
redshift   Well... they should have run... slower..   Jun 20 2005, 11:07 AM
lapuwali   More from Autosport: according to a phone intervie...   Jun 20 2005, 11:29 AM
serge914   Bottom line, is F-1 a sport or a show/business? ...   Jun 20 2005, 11:41 AM
DNHunt   James I'll stand by what I said. Granted raci...   Jun 20 2005, 12:26 PM
lapuwali     Jun 20 2005, 01:12 PM
mudfoot76   ...   Jun 20 2005, 01:20 PM
Cap'n Krusty   ...   Jun 20 2005, 01:50 PM
serge914   Just imagine how many millions Japanese and Asians...   Jun 20 2005, 02:25 PM
jhadler   Big Show... Big Bussiness... Big Ego's... I...   Jun 20 2005, 02:33 PM
seanery   From the FIA's website: 2005 UNITED STATES GR...   Jun 20 2005, 02:45 PM
Jeroen   Yep, I read that one... Interesting read! Cle...   Jun 20 2005, 03:03 PM
seanery   actually, it's not a concrete barrier there, i...   Jun 20 2005, 03:46 PM
anthony   So can some explain to me why adding a chicane to ...   Jun 20 2005, 05:27 PM
TimT  
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black73   This incident reminds me of the NASCAR tire wars a...   Jun 20 2005, 06:08 PM
Thorshammer   Okay bitches I'm back! Lapi, Some of wha...   Jun 20 2005, 06:45 PM
goose2   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/h...   Jun 20 2005, 06:58 PM
TimT   Michelin tires were on the the 1-2 finishing cars ...   Jun 20 2005, 07:05 PM
!   Simple, Michelin+French=surrender.... Next questi...   Jun 20 2005, 07:15 PM
lapuwali   Erik, regardless of whether Bernie sold the TV ri...   Jun 20 2005, 08:55 PM
seanery   the only teams that "bent" were the Michellin team...   Jun 20 2005, 09:13 PM
Thorshammer   Due diligence is testing at all circuits by differ...   Jun 20 2005, 09:37 PM
Jeroen   <...   Jun 21 2005, 07:05 AM
mudfoot76   In spite of being bitter about this whole situatio...   Jun 21 2005, 07:49 AM
rhodyguy   how you guys can even endure sitting through a com...   Jun 21 2005, 08:19 AM
lapuwali   <...   Jun 21 2005, 08:25 AM
Jeroen   ...   Jun 21 2005, 08:44 AM
rhodyguy   i'll be booking a flight promptly then. do the...   Jun 21 2005, 08:48 AM
Jeroen   yeah, but they don't come with english subtitl...   Jun 21 2005, 08:59 AM
Thorshammer   Jeroen, Just take him window shopping and he wil...   Jun 21 2005, 09:19 AM
rhodyguy   btdt, 1976. all i did was window shop. i was datin...   Jun 21 2005, 09:31 AM
Jeroen   read em and weep http://www.914w...   Jun 22 2005, 10:33 AM
J P Stein     Jun 22 2005, 12:58 PM
Mueller   sorta OT...anyone have this book?? Ferrari Form...   Jun 22 2005, 01:40 PM
maf914   <...   Jun 22 2005, 01:55 PM
groot     Jun 22 2005, 01:56 PM
F1rocco   What was it like 6 Michelin teams that boycotted t...   Jun 22 2005, 02:02 PM
F1rocco   Minardi Do I need to say anymore.....   Jun 22 2005, 02:10 PM
jhadler   I can't say I think anyone directly involved i...   Jun 22 2005, 02:26 PM
lapuwali   It was Texas World Speedway. Super high banking w...   Jun 22 2005, 03:51 PM
davesprinkle   Actually, it was Texas Motor Speedway. Not trying...   Jun 22 2005, 07:32 PM
F1rocco   ...   Jun 22 2005, 10:03 PM
goose2   Michelin to offer US GP refunds From the BBC webs...   Jun 28 2005, 03:34 PM
lapuwali   Michelin is really doing the stand-up thing here. ...   Jun 28 2005, 03:46 PM
larryp   Yeah, Max will be in full tyrant mode tomorrow but...   Jun 28 2005, 08:36 PM
seanery   well, that's the first thing Michellin has don...   Jun 29 2005, 09:53 AM


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